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VE3WBZ > TODAY 19.10.13 00:51l 90 Lines 3132 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE: Ian G0TEZ's 1st posting
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From: VE3WBZ@VA3BAL.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : TODAY@WW
TO: TODAY @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Friday, October 10th.,2013 @ 1016hrs EST <JPST>
<< Quoting G0TEZ to TODAY @WW >>
> From : G0TEZ To : TODAY @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 15-Oct 10:55
> Bid : 910307G0TEZ Message # : 15542
> Title : Re: Today in History - Oct 14
>
> Chuck Yeager, 1st man to break the sound barrier, not quite.
Hello TOFAY @WW readers and Ian G0TEZ.,
If not quite, then who did break the sound barrier first?
> In August 1944, the British government went to the firm of
> Miles Aviation which had built the 1,000 mpg M52 and told them
> to stop research and send their designs to Bell Avionics.
I have to agree with you there. "Miles Aviation" is a familar
name to my youth, as were these mysterious trails in the sky
that were explained away as being experimental enemy aircraft
and other funny explainations.
> Miles did as they were told but kept the prototype airframe,
> it still exists.
Glad he did. Is it on display?
> However Frank Whittle who invented the first jet engine and
> also had a company, Jet Power Ltd, had just invented the
> afterburner for the engine in the M52 and refused to hand over
> his research so the Americans were forced to drop the Bell X1
> from a bomber and use rocket engines as they had not got a
> suitable jet engine.
>
> I saw this a few years ago on a TV programme and it also
> included an interview with the designer of the M52, who wasn't
> very happy.
Seem to remember seeing a horrible 16mm grade film on this too.
> There is a website aimed at proffessional pilots and test pilots
> which mentioned the above story.
I might have seen that site too, debating...still the first powered
flight, and that deal between the Wright Family with Smithsomian over
the Wright Flyer, and what happens if they look into claims.
> As for the airframe, compare Bell's offering with the M52 and the
> MiG 15, 17 and upwards. A striking similarity. We gave the
> Russians 40 Rolls Royce Nene jet engines which they copied and
> fitted into the MiG.
Still a resected fighter, but then so is the Sabre.
> Great stuff this revisionist history.
All this happened as a price for their pre-war help. The problem
also is when they joined they still had their hands in the UK
taxpayer's pocket. Capitalism at it's best. Business was in
charge and wanted profit, and got it. It was not about Democracy.
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 11:55 on 2013-Oct-15 GMT+1
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> [End of Message #15542 from G0TEZ]
I am sure Ian, that talking to vets from WW2, you will hear the
same distaste for this profit over human ideals. I can not
remember a veteran who had anything good to say about'em.
NO problem with the armed forces, they were first to admit all
orders and what they were ordered to do, were governed by political
and financial aims and gains.
So there I answered your posting, quickly, as you posted one today
and I better get to it.
73 Peter VE3WBZ
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