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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna (Greg D.)
2. Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna (Ronald Nutter)
3. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239 (Greg D.)
4. Re: AO-51 mode V/S (Ronald Nutter)
5. Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna (Greg D.)
6.  Delfi C3: spin rate unchanged in the past 2 weeks (Henk, PA3GUO)
7. Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna (Edward Cole)
8.  Another cube RX (Luc Leblanc)
9. Re: [eu-amsat] Another cube RX (Luc Leblanc)
10. Re: ao-27? (George Henry)
11.  Interesting article that mentions Sumbandilasat
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
12. Re: Another cube RX (Chris Bloy)
13. Re: AO-51 mode V/S (Rm2642(AT)aol.com)
14.  a016 (Pedro Cruz)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:45:45 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
To: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <BLU133-W6472E8D62E508FC935E49A9CF0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi Ron,

I built the helix because they are fairly tolerant of slight differences
in
materials and assembly dimensions.  I am by no means a precision builder,
so
this seemed right for me.

I have an ICOM 1271A in the shack, which is supposed to put out about 10
watts.  This goes to about 5 feet of RG-214 (I think - it's the 50 ohm
stuff
that looks like RG-8, but has better shielding), to a box outside where
there's supposed to be a lightning arrestor.  That's on my list of
things-to-
buy-soon...  Right now the arrester is just an N-N barrel connector.  That
feeds about 60' of Andrew hardline (LDF4-50A) up to the roof, where there
is
another barrel connector and another about 5' of that RG-214 to go around
the
antenna rotor to the antenna itself.

At 1.2 ghz and 50-odd feet, I expect that hardline is going to be a
requirement.  Or you could mount a power amp and pre-amp at the other end
of
the coax, along with power and sequencing logic.  The hardline I got was a
trade from another ham who worked, I'm guessing, in the CATV, Telephone,
or
similar industry.  I got something like 180 feet of it in trade for a
short
70cm antenna, enough for 3 runs to the roof.  There was a bit of a kink in
the
middle, so that run is on a lower band :-).  Ask around, you might be able
to
scrounge up something.

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


----------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:50:44 -0500
> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
> To: ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com
> CC: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
>
> Greg:
>
> Thanks for your option.  My antenna building abilities havent been the
> best, so I am looking at commercially made antennas.
>
> What type of coax/feedline should I use  ?  I will probably have the run
>   under 50 ft.  I would hope I dont have to use hardline as that will
> probably be very expensive with the price of copper.  As I get close to
> the antenna, should I shift over to a different type of coax/feedline so
> that I can rotate the antenna to track AO-51 ?
>
> Ron
> KA4KYI
>
> Greg D. wrote:
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> I've done ok on AO-51 with a homemade helix.  See
http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th at the bottom of the page.  I also have
watts
in the shack, but a full az/el rotor system.  I don't know how sharp the
pattern is for the helix, so I don't know how effective a fixed elevation
system will be.  But from the reports I've received, the 10 watts and my
60'
of hardline with about 7 feet of RG-214 at each end seems to be quite
adequate.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:49:23 -0500
>>> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
>>> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Suggestions for Mode L antenna
>>>
>>> I am considering purchasing the 1.2 ghz module for my IC-910H.  For my
>>> satellite work, I have my antennas angled at about 20 degrees since I
>>> dont have an az/el rotor.  This setup worked reasonably well with Mode S
>>> this weekend.  What are my chances to be able to work Mode L with this
>>> kind of setup ?  Also, I would appreciate any suggestions for an antenna
>>> that I could use.  With only 10 watts, I am not expecting a great signal
>>> but I would hope to have at least a readable signal.  Also, would
>>> appreciate any suggestions as to coax/feedline that I should look at
>>> buying ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ron
>>> KA4KYI
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:55:20 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <48290318.4070904(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Greg:

I havent worked with hardline before.  This may be getting mvoed from
time to time. For now, I will have it at home.  I would like to move it
to a Field Day location in June.  Will hardline tolerate that or should
I look at another type of feed line ?

Ron

Greg D. wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> I built the helix because they are fairly tolerant of slight differences in
materials and assembly dimensions.  I am by no means a precision builder,
so
this seemed right for me.
>
> I have an ICOM 1271A in the shack, which is supposed to put out about 10
watts.  This goes to about 5 feet of RG-214 (I think - it's the 50 ohm
stuff
that looks like RG-8, but has better shielding), to a box outside where
there's supposed to be a lightning arrestor.  That's on my list of
things-to-
buy-soon...  Right now the arrester is just an N-N barrel connector.  That
feeds about 60' of Andrew hardline (LDF4-50A) up to the roof, where there
is
another barrel connector and another about 5' of that RG-214 to go around
the
antenna rotor to the antenna itself.
>
> At 1.2 ghz and 50-odd feet, I expect that hardline is going to be a
requirement.  Or you could mount a power amp and pre-amp at the other end
of
the coax, along with power and sequencing logic.  The hardline I got was a
trade from another ham who worked, I'm guessing, in the CATV, Telephone,
or
similar industry.  I got something like 180 feet of it in trade for a
short
70cm antenna, enough for 3 runs to the roof.  There was a bit of a kink in
the
middle, so that run is on a lower band :-).  Ask around, you might be able
to
scrounge up something.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:50:44 -0500
>> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
>> To: ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com
>> CC: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
>>
>> Greg:
>>
>> Thanks for your option.  My antenna building abilities havent been the
>> best, so I am looking at commercially made antennas.
>>
>> What type of coax/feedline should I use  ?  I will probably have the run
>>   under 50 ft.  I would hope I dont have to use hardline as that will
>> probably be very expensive with the price of copper.  As I get close to
>> the antenna, should I shift over to a different type of coax/feedline so
>> that I can rotate the antenna to track AO-51 ?
>>
>> Ron
>> KA4KYI
>>
>> Greg D. wrote:
>>> Hi Ron,
>>>
>>> I've done ok on AO-51 with a homemade helix.  See
http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th at the bottom of the page.  I also have
watts
in the shack, but a full az/el rotor system.  I don't know how sharp the
pattern is for the helix, so I don't know how effective a fixed elevation
system will be.  But from the reports I've received, the 10 watts and my
60'
of hardline with about 7 feet of RG-214 at each end seems to be quite
adequate.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Greg  KO6TH
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:49:23 -0500
>>>> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
>>>> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Suggestions for Mode L antenna
>>>>
>>>> I am considering purchasing the 1.2 ghz module for my IC-910H.  For my
>>>> satellite work, I have my antennas angled at about 20 degrees since I
>>>> dont have an az/el rotor.  This setup worked reasonably well with Mode S
>>>> this weekend.  What are my chances to be able to work Mode L with this
>>>> kind of setup ?  Also, I would appreciate any suggestions for an antenna
>>>> that I could use.  With only 10 watts, I am not expecting a great signal
>>>> but I would hope to have at least a readable signal.  Also, would
>>>> appreciate any suggestions as to coax/feedline that I should look at
>>>> buying ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>> KA4KYI
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
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program!
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:04:45 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239
To: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>, John Kopala
	<jkopala(AT)gmail.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <BLU133-W140DBD5A0EAB4A238F74A2A9CF0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:17:03 -0500
> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
> To: jkopala(AT)gmail.com
> CC: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 239
>
> John:
>
> I am using a "budget" rotor from Channel Master for my current setup.
> Is that strong enough to support an elevation rotor or do I need to save
> up some $$$ and get an AZ/EL rotor ?  It looks like Yaesu is the only
> option I can find.  Are there others that I should look at ?
>
> Ron
>

Hi Ron,

My Az rotor is a ham type (pedigree unknown), but the elevation rotor is a
simple Alliance U-110.  I think I paid something like $5.00 for a pair of
them.  As you scan see in the pictures, it handles quite a lot, as long as
the
balance is kind of close.  If it matters, I chose to put a simple screw
into
the horizontal shaft where the Elevation rotor drives it, so it's not
super
stiff at that joint.  Gives the motor a little "give" when starting.

Greg  KO6TH

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:15:43 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 mode V/S
To: Jesse Morris <w4mvb(AT)verizon.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4828F9CF.2080002(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Jesse:

It has worked for me.  When AO-51 is in  V/S mode, I have to use a
seperate radio for the downlink.  In my case, the K5GNA converter is set
for 2 meter IF and that is fed to either a handheld or an ICOM 706MKIIG.
I let my IC-910H perform the uplink duties.  That may be overkill but
that is my primary satellite rig when operating at home.

Ron
KA4KYI

Jesse Morris wrote:
> Did anyone have a problem with the 145.88 uplink last week?  For some reason
the uplink wiped out my downlink. I had not had the problem before. I
probably
am the only one it affected since I have a different down converter set up
than most. I use one of K5GNA converters with the original LO crystal. I
convert the 123.2 Mhz IF to 29.2 Mhz. I have examined all the obvious
harmonic/image/IF combinations but haven't hit on anything I think should
be a
problem.
>
> BTW - In response to some of the questions about antennas - I am using a 21
turn helix and had very good signals on the downlink. I did not observe
much
fading. I do have a DEM preamp ahead of the downconverter.
>
> Glad to get a chance to check the 2.4 Ghz receive system.
>
> 73 de Jess - W4MVB
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:10:23 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
To: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <BLU133-W484D644C05F254AC5E352BA9CF0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



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> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:55:20 -0500
> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
> To: ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com
> CC: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
>
> Greg:
>
> I havent worked with hardline before.  This may be getting mvoed from
> time to time. For now, I will have it at home.  I would like to move it
> to a Field Day location in June.  Will hardline tolerate that or should
> I look at another type of feed line ?
>
> Ron

Hi Ron,

Hardline really hates being bent.  It's not really a Field Day sort of
material, but then we rarely have 50' towers on field day either.  I'd
still
go for Field Day, but leave the hardline at home and use a sort piece of
LMR
or similar coax.

Greg  KO6TH

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:18:44 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Delfi C3: spin rate unchanged in the past 2 weeks
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1297.212.61.85.173.1210655924.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Dear all,

Based on my simplistic experiment of yesterday, May 12th, I would say that
after the first two weeks in space the spin rate / rotation of Delfi C3
has
not changed much (read: reduced). At least, due to the multiple variations
it's difficult for me to observe a significant change already.

Here is the graph of May 12th:
http://home.vianetworks.nl/users/hamoen/pa3guo/dc3_12may08_2045utc_pa3guo_s
pin
_145.930.jpg

Here is the graph of April 29th:
http://home.vianetworks.nl/users/hamoen/pa3guo/dc3_29apr2008_pa3guo_rotatio
n.j
pg


Henk, PA3GUO
http://www.qsl.net/pa3guo





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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:06:58 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Suggestions for Mode L antenna
To: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net, Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>,	"Greg
	D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200805130706.m4D76xp3072163(AT)hermes.acsalaska.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Bob, Ron and Greg:

The problem we have at this point is that uplink and downlink
performance has not been specified by the P3E team.  So, in my
thinking, one can only go with the AO-40 experience for making
enigneering decisions for your ground station.  On SSB I found that
9.5w and 20-dBi (linear pol) was inadequate for AO-40.  It looked to
me that I needed a minimum of 15w and more would have been
better.  This is power at the antenna terminal not at the radio, so
one has to calculate line loss.

For operating the Leos your uplink needs are probably less and I will
leave it to experienced operators to state what that is.

Fortunately, Times Microwave gives you a wonderful on-line cable-loss
calculator for their entire line of cables:
http://www.timesmicrowave.com/cgi-bin/calculate.pl
or you can download the zipped program to run on your local computer:
http://www.timesmicrowave.com/cable_calculators/

Plugging in LMR-400 x 50-feet at 1268-MHz results in 2.3 dB line loss
or 58.3% power at the antenna.

Using my AO-40 requirement of ERP = 15w x 100 = 1500w:  One would
want 25w at the radio end of the 50-foot cable.

Bob has this easily with his KJ6KO 60w amp with over 3-dB spare.  BTW
my current 1296 setup uses 150-feet of 7/8 hardline with ~20 feet
LMR-400 to give me 20w at the antenna (I have a KJ6KO amp as
well).  For satellite, I will probably mount my 15w 144/1268 Tx
converter at the antenna, thus eliminating expensive hardline.  I do
that for my 435-MHz uplink by using a 50w brick at the satellite
tower and using 125-foot of RG-213 to provide an input of 12w from my
FT-847(50w).  I have an outside equipment box with 12-v power supply
and room for preamps and coax relays:
http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm

Bob, you might be OK with a 16-dBic Helix considering the power you
have.  A 4-foot dish is equivalent in gain to a 12-foot long Loop
Yagi (20-dBi) and much harder to mount and aim, so my recommedation
would be using yagis to get the gain (and be easier on your az-el
mount).  If I recall the M2 yagi has that.  Don't forget that you
gain a 3-dB advantage when using a CP antenna on Mode-L.  If you are
going to use the dish for 2.4-GHz reception then dual-band use might
be an advantage.

With Ron's 10w in the shack he will only have about 5.8w at the
antenna, so you may need more gain.  For P3E this is most likely; for
AO-51 that might be OK.  In any case I would recommend LMR-400, at
minimum, as low-loss cable, or placing a brick amp at the antenna to
boost up your power.  Note: Dale-KL7XJ runs 10w on 1268 to a helical
beam on AO-51 so, without knowing his line loss, one might guess that
50-feet LMR-400 + Helix will be adequate on AO-51.

73 Ed - KL7UW



At 11:15 AM 5/12/2008, w7lrd(AT)comcast.net wrote:
>Hello
>Currently the way I have been doing L band is as follows.  IC1271A
>(1.2ghz xcvr)  10 watts, KJ6KO 60 watt amp to a M squared 23cm22E2
>yagi at 50 feet, through 50 feet of LMR400.  The yagi is at 50 feet
>for terrestial L band.  When we get our next HEO (praying) I will
>most probably put the 22 el on the satellite array at 15 feet with
>the az/el rotor.  I have been able to work through AO-51 with the
>current set up.  The power is enough so some RF gets squirted up.  I
>am considering a helix for 1.2 for satellites, or even my four foot
>dish.  So many choices <grin>.  Does anyone know  what the expected
>ERP on L band should be??
>73 Bob W7LRD
>Seattle
>
>--
>"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
>
> > Greg:
> >
> > Thanks for your option. My antenna building abilities havent been the
> > best, so I am looking at commercially made antennas.
> >
> > What type of coax/feedline should I use ? I will probably have the run
> > under 50 ft. I would hope I dont have to use hardline as that will
> > probably be very expensive with the price of copper. As I get close to
> > the antenna, should I shift over to a different type of coax/feedline so
> > that I can rotate the antenna to track AO-51 ?
> >
> > Ron
> > KA4KYI
> >
> > Greg D. wrote:
> > > Hi Ron,
> > >
> > > I've done ok on AO-51 with a homemade helix. See
> > http://home.wavecable.com/~ko6th at the bottom of the page. I
> also have watts
> > in the shack, but a full az/el rotor system. I don't know how
> sharp the pattern
> > is for the helix, so I don't know how effective a fixed elevation
> system will
> > be. But from the reports I've received, the 10 watts and my 60'
> of hardline
> > with about 7 feet of RG-214 at each end seems to be quite adequate.
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > >
> > > Greg KO6TH
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > >> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:49:23 -0500
> > >> From: rnutter(AT)networkref.com
> > >> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> > >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Suggestions for Mode L antenna
> > >>
> > >> I am considering purchasing the 1.2 ghz module for my IC-910H. For my
> > >> satellite work, I have my antennas angled at about 20 degrees since I
> > >> dont have an az/el rotor. This setup worked reasonably well with Mode S
> > >> this weekend. What are my chances to be able to work Mode L with this
> > >> kind of setup ? Also, I would appreciate any suggestions for an antenna
> > >> that I could use. With only 10 watts, I am not expecting a great signal
> > >> but I would hope to have at least a readable signal. Also, would
> > >> appreciate any suggestions as to coax/feedline that I should look at
> > >> buying ?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Ron
> > >> KA4KYI
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> the author.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:07:14 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Another cube RX
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <482832F2.20619.124105F(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
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Just near the end of the SEEDS pass i copy another doppler affected CW
signal.
The short CW transmission  start with XIV and strings of
numbers. I think it is CAN X but i don't get a lot of details on their web
site.

Signal was quite load to interfere with SEEDS signal?

"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE





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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:43:34 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] Another cube RX
To: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <48284986.23682.17C44D0(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
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On 12 May 2008 at 17:24, Chris Bloy wrote:

> Hi Luc,
>
> That's one of the Cute satellites.. CO-55 - CO 58..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
> To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
> Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:07:14 -0400
> Subject: [eu-amsat] Another cube RX
>
> Just near the end of the SEEDS pass i copy another doppler affected CW
> signal. The short CW transmission start with XIV and strings of
> numbers. I think it is CAN X but i don't get a lot of details on their web
> site.
>
> Signal was quite loud to interfere with SEEDS signal?
>
>

Thank's Chris

It was CO-55 launch in 2003 as per the WEB site telemetry frames start
with
CUTE but i copy "xiv" ?

"-"


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:35:13 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ao-27?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<15085821.1210689313219.JavaMail.root(AT)elwamui-
rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


I am still baffled as to why this is happening...  the clock on the AO-27
website agrees with my PC clock, we are both using the same EPOCH.TXT and
TOPR.TXT files, and yet the website is somehow calculating different event
times than my son's program (which, as you said, appears to be calculating
the
correct times).

I just checked now, and at this moment, the website is behind by just over
5
minutes...  I should try to get in touch with Mike Wyrick and see if he
can
tweak something over there at ao27.org.


George, KA3HSW


-----Original Message-----
>From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb(AT)wd9ewk.net>
>Sent: May 12, 2008 7:11 PM
>To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ao-27?
>
>Hi Bob!
>
>> I heard no stations on the most recent pass, at 2145Z,,, on
>> AO-27... amI missing something?
>
>The AO-27 web site shows a period of repeater time at
>2146 UTC tomorrow (Tuesday, 13 May), and the program
>now available from KA3HSW's web site showed the repeater
>should have been on at 2027 and 2208 UTC this afternoon.
>
>For tomorrow, the program is showing the repeater on at
>2139 and 2320 UTC for passes that should be workable
>here in Arizona.  Keep in mind the AO-27 web site's
>schedule for the upcoming 24 hours is off by several
>minutes, and the program is off by a much smaller amount
>(less than 1 minute).  Check your pass predictions with sites
>like the AMSAT web site, to ensure you are getting accurate
>pass information - along with the start time for the AO-27
>repeater.
>
>73!
>
>
>
>
>Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>http://www.wd9ewk.net/



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 10:54:31 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Interesting article that mentions Sumbandilasat
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
	<15359577.1210690472386.JavaMail.root(AT)mswamui-
swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	
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Here is an interesting article I just found that mentions the launch
delays of
Sumbandilasat. If you recall this satellite carries an amateur radio
secondary
payload, and was supposed to have been launched last year.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article.php?a_id=127993

73, Drew KO4MA




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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:26:50 +0100
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris(AT)photofuture.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another cube RX
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200805131626.AA26500018(AT)photofuture.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Luc,

I believe that CANX 2 doesnt have or operate a 70cm beacon.. :(

Only from what I heard from the launch team.

Thanks,

Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:07:14 -0400
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Another cube RX


Just near the end of the SEEDS pass i copy another doppler affected CW
signal. The short CW transmission  start with XIV and strings of
numbers. I think it is CAN X but i don't get a lot of details on their web
site.

Signal was quite load to interfere with SEEDS signal?

"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:53:38 EDT
From: Rm2642(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 mode V/S
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <ca4.2d101903.355b1382(AT)aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Unfortunately, I had no success with the AO-51 V/S mode this past  week.

Before the next V/S mode operation comes around, I want to double  check
performance of my antenna and downconverter. Some of the folks in the UK 
had
these items available during AO-40 days but don't think they're available
today,
such as:

_http://www.uk.amsat.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=252&Item
id=
86_
(http://www.uk.amsat.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=252&Item
id=
86)

I've seen Bob's K5GNA 2.4GHz Source
on eBay with the:
_http://cgi.ebay.com/2-4-GHz-SIGNAL-SOURCE-GARDINER-TYPE-LO2398-AMSAT_W0QQi
tem
Z110251114382QQcmdZViewItem_
(http://cgi.ebay.com/2-4-GHz-SIGNAL-SOURCE-GARDINER-TYPE-LO2398-
AMSAT_W0QQitemZ110251114382QQcmdZViewItem)

Are there other small modular type 2.4Ghz Sources out there that I can use
to verify downlink setup?

Thanks,
Ron
N6PAA



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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:08:27 -0000
From: "Pedro Cruz" <pccu2jx(AT)sapo.pt>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  a016
To: <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <84B0C8B8EA8E401E8B561DCCE18F5004(AT)pedro>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi to all

Does any one knows the status of the AO16?


Best 73 !

Pedro Cruz  - CU2JX

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