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Today's Topics:
1. Re: CIS Yubileiny TLM (probably) heard on ~435.315 signing
RS30 (Mark M)
2. Re: CIS Yubileiny TLM (probably) heard on ~435.315
signingRS30 (OZ1MY)
3. RS30 = Yubileinya (andy thomas)
4. Re: Phase 3-E Launch date? (Keith Baker KB1SF/VA3KSF)
5. Re: Phase 3-E Launch date? (Keith Baker KB1SF/VA3KSF)
6. Yubileiny this evening (Robert Turlington)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 07:10:37 -0600
From: Mark M <ku7z(AT)sisna.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CIS Yubileiny TLM (probably) heard on ~435.315
signing RS30
To: "Ralph Wallio, W0RPK" <W0RPK(AT)netINS.net>, AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <483813CD.60209(AT)sisna.com>
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Great Catch Ralph!
Listened to it on the pass that just ended at 1300 utc here. Quite the
pause between data transmissions! Recorded most of what I heard.
Thanks for the heads up!
73, Mark, Ku7z
DN41af
Ogden, Northern UT (NUT)
Ralph Wallio, W0RPK wrote:
> RS-style CW telemetry heard on ~435.315 using callsign RS30. AOS-TCA-LOS
matched previously posted
> TLEs.
>
> TNX es 73 de Ralph Wallio, W?RPK
> W0RPK(AT)netINS.net W0RPK(AT)arrl.net W0RPK(AT)amsat.org
> http://showcase.netins.net/web/wallio/
> Hubbert's Peak - The Mother of all Perfect Storms
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:37:40 +0200
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CIS Yubileiny TLM (probably) heard on ~435.315
signingRS30
To: "Ralph Wallio, W0RPK" <W0RPK(AT)netINS.net>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: amsat-oz <amsat-oz-bb(AT)amsat.dk>
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Hi Ralph,
Had a pass here at 1604 UTC in Copenhagen.
Used Object C to track Yubi.
Frequency seems to be like you said- but perhaps
1 kHz lower.
Just after AOS the signal went up to S-56.
It is very strong. At TCA like S-59++
Lots of "funny" modulation forms. Started in CW, then some FM form,
and something that sounded like SSTV.
During the pass it was in reach of the control station, I think they
tested different things.
It is obviously tumbling still. Went from best with RHCP to best with
LHCP.
At 4,000 km it was like S-55. Lost it at a distance of 4,600 km :-)
Hope they have included a transponder in Yubi.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Wallio, W0RPK" <W0RPK(AT)netINS.net>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] CIS Yubileiny TLM (probably) heard on ~435.315
signingRS30
RS-style CW telemetry heard on ~435.315 using callsign RS30. AOS-TCA-LOS
matched previously posted
TLEs.
TNX es 73 de Ralph Wallio, W?RPK
W0RPK(AT)netINS.net W0RPK(AT)arrl.net W0RPK(AT)amsat.org
http://showcase.netins.net/web/wallio/
Hubbert's Peak - The Mother of all Perfect Storms
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:19:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS30 = Yubileinya
To: amsat <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com, john heath
<g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
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Yubileinya - Rob G8ate's Keps are almost right - sending RS30 in CW on 435 314
(perhaps slightly up) plus carrier plus what could be sstv in usb mode. From
AOS, she seems to be commanded from northern site e.g. Plesestk.
y3 de andy G0SFJ
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:19:43 -0400
From: "Keith Baker KB1SF/VA3KSF" <kb1sf(AT)kcbassociates.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3-E Launch date?
To: "Dee" <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002701c8bdcb$8fd0dda0$667ba8c0(AT)Pavillion767>
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Dee (N2BF) wrote:
Keith,
First, good to hear from you. Many have asked at the AMSAT booth of your
whereabouts. Sorry you feel this way, however, AMSAT does have a lot of bright
stars and people that try to keep everyone informed. I am "one" of the ANS
editor's that try to keep the group and others in the world up to date. I am
hampered by lack of information being forwarded by the various groups doing
wonderful things for us. I always ask these groups to send a note or two to
the ANS editor so we can keep the AMSAT members informed.
I attended Dayton again this year to get scoops on items happening. The
forums went well and up to date information was dispensed. ITAR is alive and
well, yes, but the strings are becoming untangled.
Remember, sometimes no news means that there was no progress to report. AMSAT
has the Eagle project working too so don't forget about that project's needs
since AMSAT has contributed many times to Phase 3E and this is AMSAT-NA's
contribution to the ham community.
73,
Dee,
NB2F
NJ AMSAT Co-ordinator
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And it's nice to hear from you again as well, Dee!
Please understand, my original query was not meant, in any way, to demean the
work of either our experimenters or those of you doing the reporting of what
our experimenters are doing. So I have no feelings to be "sorry" for ane
there is absolutely no need for you to apologize.
In fact, I well remember from my own experiences with Phase 3-D that there are
always delicate negotiations going on behind the scenes for such things as
satelliite launches (particularly those of the "bargain basement" variety!)
I also know that revealing the details of those negotiations until they were
completed could very well throw the proverbial "monkey wrench" into those
proceedings. Few people will ever know how periously close AMSAT came to NOT
having an affordable launch for Phase 3-D as a direct result of such "loose
lips" among some of our more vocal (but nontheless still horrifically
ignorant) AMSAT-BB posters..
All I was asking in my original post was if anyone had heard any "official"
word on when we might expect to have P3-E in orbit. And, as you say, "no news
is often good news", which appears to now be the case.
And, let me also say that my absense from the mainstream of AMSAT-NA
activities over these last few years has had nothing to do with my harboring
any ill will towards anyone in the current organization(s). Rather, I have
been grappling with a whole host of daunting personal and family issues that
have, of neccessity, largely kept me from doing so.
As a few trusted folks within the AMSAT management team already know, those
issues have involved a lengthy (and very sad) divorce along with a subsequent
re-marraige to a wonderful Canadian lady named Kate (who has since become a
licenced Ham in both the US and Canada).
I have also been busy getting both myself (and my teenage daughter) firmly
established as permanent residents here in Canada. Needless to say, the
latter has been a long and arduous process for my daughter, Emily and me,
given the fact that it has all happened in an increasingly bureaucratic, post
9/11 world.
And, as I said, as I am no longer a US resident, I well realize that that
fact could also create a whole series of negative implications for any
"offfcial" participaiton I might have in any corporate AMSAT activities due to
the stringent reporting requirements of ITAR.
So, rather than complicate those already overly-complex organizaitonal issues
any further, I've thought it best to simply sit on the sidelines and let
others "carry the torch".
Rest assured, Dee, I DO keep tabs on what's going on in the organization, both
by the fine work you and others are doing with the Journal, and also by the
fine work our Webmaster(s) are doing with the AMSAT-NA Web site and AMSAT-BB.
As I have often said, I learned long ago that, sometimes, "help" is not
"helpful". And, you folks are all doing just fine without any of my added
"help"!
Please pass my best to all!
73,
Keith
KB1SF / VA3KSF
Past President, AMSAT-NA
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 14:32:22 -0400
From: "Keith Baker KB1SF/VA3KSF" <kb1sf(AT)kcbassociates.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 3-E Launch date?
To: "Dee" <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003501c8bdcc$e1b7db40$667ba8c0(AT)Pavillion767>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dee (N2BF) wrote:
Keith,
First, good to hear from you. Many have asked at the AMSAT booth of your
whereabouts. Sorry you feel this way, however, AMSAT does have a lot of bright
stars and people that try to keep everyone informed. I am "one" of the ANS
editor's that try to keep the group and others in the world up to date. I am
hampered by lack of information being forwarded by the various groups doing
wonderful things for us. I always ask these groups to send a note or two to
the ANS editor so we can keep the AMSAT members informed.
I attended Dayton again this year to get scoops on items happening. The
forums went well and up to date information was dispensed. ITAR is alive and
well, yes, but the strings are becoming untangled.
Remember, sometimes no news means that there was no progress to report. AMSAT
has the Eagle project working too so don't forget about that project's needs
since AMSAT has contributed many times to Phase 3E and this is AMSAT-NA's
contribution to the ham community.
73,
Dee,
NB2F
NJ AMSAT Co-ordinator
-------------------
And it's nice to hear from you again as well, Dee!
Please understand, my original query was not meant, in any way, to demean the
fine work of either our experimenters or those of you doing the reporting of
what our experimenters are doing. So I have no feelings to be "sorry" for.
And there is absolutely no need for you to apologize on behalf of the
organization.
In fact, I well remember from my own experiences with Phase 3-D that there are
always delicate negotiations going on behind the scenes for such things as
satellite launches (particularly those of the "bargain basement" variety!)
I also know that revealing the details of those negotiations until they were
completed could very well throw the proverbial "monkey wrench" into those
proceedings. Few people will ever know how perilously close AMSAT came to NOT
having an affordable launch for Phase 3-D as a direct result of such "loose
lips" among some of our more vocal (but nonetheless still horrifically
ignorant) AMSAT-BB posters.
All I was asking in my original post was if anyone had heard any "official"
word on when we might expect to have P3-E in orbit. And, as you say, "no news"
is often "good news", which appears to now be the case.
And, let me also say that my absence from the mainstream of AMSAT-NA
activities over these last few years has had nothing to do with my harboring
any ill will towards anyone in the current organization(s). Rather, I have
been grappling with a whole host of daunting personal and family issues that
have, of necessity, largely kept me from doing so.
As a few trusted folks within the AMSAT management team already know, those
issues have involved a lengthy (and very sad) divorce along with a subsequent
re-marriage to a wonderful Canadian lady named Kate (who has since become a
licensed Ham in both the US and Canada).
I have also been busy getting both myself (and my teenage daughter) firmly
established as permanent residents here in Canada. Needless to say, the
latter has been a long and arduous process for my daughter, Emily, and me,
given the fact that it has all happened in an increasingly bureaucratic, post
9/11 world.
And, as I said, my personal and family choices now also mean that I am no
longer a US resident. And, judging from all the hassle we were going through
with P3-D and MOST over ITAR issues when I was still President, I well realize
that my "foreigner" status could also create a whole series of negative
implications for any "official" participation I might have in any corporate
AMSAT activities due to the stringent reporting requirements of those US laws.
So, rather than complicate those already overly-complex AMSAT organizational
issues any further, I've also thought it best to simply sit on the sidelines
and let others "carry the torch"...at least until someone in authority in the
US Congress finally wakes up and realizes just how utterly ineffecitve (as
well as fiscally devastating) ITAR has been for our own US space industry.
Rest assured, Dee, I DO keep tabs on what's going on in the organization, both
by the fine work you and others are doing with the Journal, and also by the
fine work our Webmaster(s) are doing with the AMSAT-NA Web site and AMSAT-BB.
As I have often said, I learned long ago that, sometimes, "help" is not
"helpful". And, you folks are all doing just fine without any of my added
"help"!
Please pass my best wishes to all!
73,
Keith
KB1SF / VA3KSF
Past President, AMSAT-NA
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:49:07 +0100
From: Robert Turlington <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny this evening
To: Amsat Buleitin Board <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W28A22E6FA6FDB0AAD1E7D8C0C00(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I again heard the new Russian Satellite Yubileiny this evening it switched on
at 1810utc approx 10 mins after aos and I think within range of the control
station.I recorded a file of a digital sstv sounding audio with my rig in fm
modeRegards Robert G8ATE
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