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Today's Topics:
1. Yubileiny data mode? (andy thomas)
2. How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
(Kostas Ioannidis)
3. Re: Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
4. Re: Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
5. Re: How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
(Alan P. Biddle)
6. 'normal' cubesat report (David)
7. Congrats Phoenix! (Doug Kuitula)
8. GO-32 does not sound good (Bruce Semple)
9. Yubileiny recording... (Mark Vandewettering)
10. Re: How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de (David Smith)
11. Re: CIS Yubileiny successfully launched 23May08 (John Mock KD6PAG)
12. RS-30 YUBILEINY CW decode (andy thomas)
13. SEEDS II tlm 25 May (andy thomas)
14. Yubileiny Digital Fm Signal (Robert Turlington)
15. LVB Tracker 1 Nova fix (Howard Long)
16. ANDE FCAL down (Armando Mercado)
17. Yubileiny(RS30) strange signal (Mineo Wakita)
18. Re: How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de (i8cvs)
19. Re: Yubileiny Digital Fm Signal (Simon Brown (HB9DRV))
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:09:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny data mode?
To: amsat <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com, john heath
<g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <972517.96289.qm(AT)web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Synch pulses on FM are at about 2450 Hz, and then it is like RTTY around this
frequency. MixW produces garbage though.
73 de andy G0SFJ
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:19:21 +0300
From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<6cd5903a0805251219y31347ebeqe8eea752c1566899(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Probably a silly question... How can someone order a product from this
site? There is not an order form!
73 de sw1ixp
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:05:01 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT
To: <kk5do(AT)arrl.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DAV126D71090376042EDCA8E8AC30(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Bruce,
Thanks for the AMSAT heads up. I have contacted the ARRL directly and
their response is what prompted my email.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce [mailto:kk5do(AT)arrl.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:34 AM
To: Gary "Joe" Mayfield; amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT
You have interpreted the AMSAT rules correctly. However, we are not in a
position to interpret the ARRL rules. I would suggest contacting someone
at the ARRL for clarification. Even asking another ham could lead to
that ham's interpretation and not the real deal.
73...bruce
AMSAT Director Contests & Awards
(one of my official titles)
Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
> The ARRL Field Day rules regarding satellites are difficult for me to
> understand. I asked for a clarification of the one contact FM bird rule
and
> did not hear what I expected. What they mean is "one contact per FM voice
> satellite"
>
>
>
> For example: if AO-51 is running VU and LS you get one contact, not one on
> each transponder. (The opposite of AMSAT I believe)
>
>
>
> I believe there are more differences;
>
> On AO-7 where working a station in mode A and then working it again in
mode
> B would be two contacts for AMSAT, but a dupe for ARRL.
>
>
>
> In fact working a station on AO-7 (either transponder) and then on VO-52
is
> a dupe in the ARRL (but not AMSAT) rules as "Satellite" is a single band
in
> the eyes of the ARRL.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to stay out of trouble this year, so if anyone has any
additional
> clarifications please let me know, or if you know this to be wrong let me
> know.
>
>
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Joe kk0sd
>
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--
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on SkyScanner Satellite Radio Network on
Galaxy-25 (AT)97? West,
Transponder 23 (12115 Vert), Symbol Rate: 22425, APID: 1794 (DVB Free To
Air)
Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:07:59 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT
To: "'kc6uqh'" <kc6uqh(AT)cox.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU137-DAV7847A0778192C49C421748AC30(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Art,
You missed my point about the linear satellites completely. In ARRL
all contacts go into one hopper or band called satellite. If you work the
same station on any two satellites it is a dupe.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: kc6uqh [mailto:kc6uqh(AT)cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 11:41 AM
To: Gary "Joe" Mayfield; amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT
Gary,
As I recall AO-7 and VO-52 are not FM satellites, hence exempt from the rule
so is FO-29
Art, KC6UQH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary "Joe" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield(AT)hotmail.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 7:32 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Rules ARRL -vs.- AMSAT
> The ARRL Field Day rules regarding satellites are difficult for me to
> understand. I asked for a clarification of the one contact FM bird rule
> and
> did not hear what I expected. What they mean is "one contact per FM voice
> satellite"
>
>
>
> For example: if AO-51 is running VU and LS you get one contact, not one on
> each transponder. (The opposite of AMSAT I believe)
>
>
>
> I believe there are more differences;
>
> On AO-7 where working a station in mode A and then working it again in
> mode
> B would be two contacts for AMSAT, but a dupe for ARRL.
>
>
>
> In fact working a station on AO-7 (either transponder) and then on VO-52
> is
> a dupe in the ARRL (but not AMSAT) rules as "Satellite" is a single band
> in
> the eyes of the ARRL.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to stay out of trouble this year, so if anyone has any
> additional
> clarifications please let me know, or if you know this to be wrong let me
> know.
>
>
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Joe kk0sd
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 16:53:02 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to order from
http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <414C16FDBBD8472A967F4F33D6FF0F8E(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Below each item is a "Notelist" button. Similar to "Add to Basket." When
you are done, click on the "Request Offer" on the Startpage, which will take
you to an order form. When you submit this, you will get a quote from them
based on your shipping and other costs.
Alternatively, you can use the Contact page and send a message. A couple of
years ago I had a technical question, and my answer included a quote. I
just replied to the e-mail with the credit card info.
Seems clumsy, but it works.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:39:48 +0930
From: David <vk5dg(AT)aapt.net.au>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 'normal' cubesat report
To: amsat <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <200805260939.48779.vk5dg(AT)aapt.net.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello All,
They have just gone overhead and
SEEDS is in packet mode
CUTE transmitting CW
COMPASS-1 heard
and DO-64 silent
Nothing unusual there.
73 de David VK5DG
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:11:04 -0400
From: "Doug Kuitula" <ka8qcu(AT)pasty.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Congrats Phoenix!
To: <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <000a01c8bec5$01652620$aec964d0(AT)net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all,
Just watched the reports on the landing of Phoenix. I'm looking forward to
the first images from the polar region of Mars later on.
73 de Doug KA8QCU
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:08:58 -0400
From: Bruce Semple <brucesemple(AT)verizon.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GO-32 does not sound good
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <0K1G00K2LB8I1153(AT)vms046.mailsrvcs.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
05/26/2008 01:06:50
Pass over US East Coast (south to north)
sounded like the FM carrier would come on .. but then shut down ..
This seems to be a new behavior.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:40:32 -0700
From: Mark Vandewettering <mvandewettering(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny recording...
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Cc: kf6kyi(AT)gmail.com
Message-ID: <C716D38B-BA60-4640-ABFF-E13D003E5DE0(AT)gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
During its pass today over the California, I did pick up the cw
telemetry but didn't hear any
additional signals. An excerpt of the CW beacon can be found at my
blog:
http://brainwagon.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/rs30.mp3
Recording was done with my FT-817ND and my Arrow antenna, I didn't
track Doppler.
Mark KF6KYI
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:01:22 -0700
From: "David Smith" <w6te(AT)msn.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to order from
http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>, "Kostas Ioannidis"
<kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-DAV11DE08961AAAF6DCB420DF95C20(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
In the past I just emailed Julia at Khune. She told me how much money to send.
I sent it and received the item a week or so later.
73,
Dave W6TE
----- Original Message -----
From: Kostas Ioannidis<mailto:kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org<mailto:AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:19 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to order from http://www.kuhne-
electronic.de<http://www.kuhne-electronic.de/>
Probably a silly question... How can someone order a product from this
site? There is not an order form!
73 de sw1ixp
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:39:31 -0700
From: John Mock KD6PAG <kd6pag(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CIS Yubileiny successfully launched 23May08
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <E1K0XIp-0008VE-Fq(AT)sebastopol.fdns.net>
> As you say, If this has a transponder of any kind we are all in for a real
> treat. Looks like the 'Best DX' from the UK to the west would be Eastern
> Texas up to North Dakota. !!
>
> David G0MRF
Not even close. From the Shetland Islands, it looks like there's at least
some overlap to 49 states. For example, my predictions show 1.4 minutes
from Lerwick, UK to Redding, CA [Tue 27May08 23:30:20-23:31:45] and 1.2 min.
overlap from Lerwick, UK to Flagstaff, AZ [Wed 28May08 22:39:07-22:40:18].
Even Inverness, Scotland has 1.3 min overlap with Redding, CA (while AO-7
barely has half that overlap).
I known because i'll be in the Shetlands for almost a week in August...
It sure would be nice to have some kind of voice transponder in that type
of orbit... Aside from HEO, only RS-15 [if it worked] could beat that.
-- KD6PAG
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:08:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS-30 YUBILEINY CW decode
To: amsat <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: john heath <g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <220061.14950.qm(AT)web25604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
At 0515 +/- utc today 26 May 08 RS30 sent in CW:
rs30 us160 ibs16 usun1 isun0 itxa6 itxb6 ttxa65 ttxb66 tnap89 tnb66 msep0
mcon53 sma114 smb-- mrbn2 ----
rs30 us160 ibs14 usun1 isun0 itxa6 itxb6 ------ ------ tnap89 tnb66 msep0
mcon63 sma114 smb88 mrbn2 mrxb2 rs30
----indicates I didn't hear it "live", but I still have the wav file.
If in RS22 format:
US = UBS
IBS, USUN, ISUN, ITXA, ITXB are as previously reported.
TTXA, TTXB are transmitter temperatures -100
TNAP is temperature of navigation unit -100
TNB, MSEP, MCON, SMA, SMB, MRBN, MRXB are not identified.
I sugegst that the modifications to temperatures and voltages ( -100 and /100)
in RS22 may not apply to RS30 ??
Freq 435.312 gave best doppler.
73 de andy G0SFJ
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 09:51:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SEEDS II tlm 25 May
To: amsat <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: john heath <g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <762488.75943.qm(AT)web25608.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
25 May about 2253 utc:
jqiygu seeds g4 01---c54 d06 ffe 546 460 000 000 6e7 007 afe ae6 af3 64a 11
0000 0001 0001 0001 4268 85 30 30
jq1ygu seeds g4 01669006 d36 ffe 51c 5f8 000 000 008 007 b13 ad3 afe b52 11
0000 0001 0001 0001 4269 85 49 34
jq1ygu seeds g4 016693cd d36 ffe 005 007 000 000 -then lost it
When loading into the software it demands capital letters which is anathaema
to me as I write my cw in lower case.
73 de andy G0SFJ
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:32:06 +0100
From: Robert Turlington <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny Digital Fm Signal
To: Amsat Buleitin Board <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, Andy Thomas
<andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>, John Heath <g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W19296AD78FAFB91E4CCB6BC0C20(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi All
using Spectogram I analysed the audio signal from Yubileiny as follows:-
main carrier 2400hz the bandwidth being 120hz wide so far as could tell.
I estimate that the central carrier was pulsing at 4 times/sec,
if these figures sound familiar to anybody please let me know!
Regards Robert G8ATE
_________________________________________________________________
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000007ukm/direct/01/
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:39:03 +0100
From: "Howard Long" <howard(AT)howardlong.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker 1 Nova fix
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1B488DF122534D4D954CB246507CD999(AT)LAPTOP9>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Folks
A few weeks ago my attention was drawn to a compatibility problem with Nova
and the LVB Tracker 1. I believe that I have found the fault, but it is not
clear why it has taken so long for this problem to occur, especially as Nova
has been my tracking program of choce for many years! It may only affect
more recent versione of Nova.
I have adjusted the LVB Tecker's Baud Rate Generator slightly to be much
closer to 9600bps. I must have made an error in my calculations all those
years ago, so it was only operating at 9259bps. I have adjusted the BRG by
one to make 9616bps and things seem to be much better now. Technically, we
were only 3.5% out anyway which normally would be OK (ISTR that 5% timing
error is the limit).
Anyway, new 0.9 binaries and source here:
http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTrack.hex
http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTrack.c
73, Howard G6LVB
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:08:08 -0400
From: "Armando Mercado" <am25544(AT)triton.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDE FCAL down
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000301c8bf20$c8146e60$1d11acd1(AT)hppav>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
reply-type=original
No signals where heard from ANDE FCAL during the afternoon
and evening passes of May 25. Space track reports re-entry
approximately 1118 UTC.
73, Armando N8IGJ
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:35:22 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny(RS30) strange signal
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <5EC8BF24958DBCei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I heard today the strange signal like WeatherSat or RTTY
from Yubileiny(RS30) at 435.315MHz.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/80526yub.wav
de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:49:30 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to order from
http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000f01c8bf2e$f0eca2e0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:19 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to order from http://www.kuhne-electronic.de
> Probably a silly question... How can someone order a product from this
> site? There is not an order form!
>
>
>
> 73 de sw1ixp
> _______________________________________________
Hi Kostas, SW1IXP
>From the Catalog I got
Kuhne Electronic
Birkenweg 15
D-95119 NAILA / Holle
GERMANY
#Phone : 00 49 / 92 88 / 82 32
FAX : 00 49 / 92 88 / 17 68
email: kuhne.db6nt(AT)t-online.de
Internet site:
http://www.db6nt.com
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:52:12 +0200
From: "Simon Brown \(HB9DRV\)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yubileiny Digital Fm Signal
To: "Robert Turlington" <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>, "Amsat Buleitin
Board" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, "Andy Thomas"
<andythomasmail(AT)yahoo.co.uk>, "John Heath"
<g7hia(AT)btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <480BC549B6BE4D048117F9391E7A619E(AT)doubletrouble>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Thob-4 or Throb-4X?
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert Turlington" <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>
> Hi All
> using Spectogram I analysed the audio signal from Yubileiny as follows:-
> main carrier 2400hz the bandwidth being 120hz wide so far as could tell.
> I estimate that the central carrier was pulsing at 4 times/sec,
> if these figures sound familiar to anybody please let me know!
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