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Today's Topics:
1. Re: you guys look bad (Jeff Moore)
2. Re: OT - Books for extra (Ronald Nutter)
3. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations (Tony Langdon)
4. Shuttle question (w7lrd(AT)comcast.net)
5. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (i8cvs)
6. Gents across the pond (w7lrd(AT)comcast.net)
7. Re: Shuttle question (Ronald Nutter)
8. Re: Shuttle question (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
9. Re: you guys look bad (Jim Danehy)
10. Re: Shuttle question (Roger Kolakowski)
11. Re: you guys look bad (Jim Danehy)
12. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (Ben Jackson)
13. Re: AO-51 2nd Repeater (Andrew Koenig)
14. SATPC32 3D2 maps (Dick Williams)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:44:50 -0700
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: you guys look bad
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <014901c8c1e5$fd3aa650$088464d0(AT)TNTCENTER>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>From what I hear, it's worse: you have the CW purists who feel that
everybody should use that mode only and then you have the WSJT users who are
accused of using software that "makes up" the QSO's or some such nonsense.
It's ridiculous and prevalent on just about every list that isn't heavily
moderated.
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Danehy" <jdanehy(AT)cinci.rr.com>
[snip]
A little more of the belly aching and I will pull the darn plug . . . I
wonder if there is this type of complaining on EME associated bulletin
boards ?
Jim W9VNE
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:51:18 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT - Books for extra
To: Ed Tump <ed(AT)squaretfarm.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <483F4176.2050008(AT)networkref.com>
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I have used the Gordon West books for my exams. Havent been that
impressed with the League licensing books.
Ron
KA4KYI
Ed Tump wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I am going to be studying for my extra class next month. Any pro and cons of
> differences you may know in the study books by Gordon West or ARRL?
>
> Thanks.
>
> 73,
>
> Ed
>
> KC9GWK
> Grid EN52
>
> AmSat Member
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:42:20 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations
To: "Michael Tondee" <mat_62(AT)netcommander.com>, "Andrew Glasbrenner"
<glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>, "Ransom,Kenneth G. \(JSC-OC\)[BAR]"
<kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <483f4d7c.20d7720a.6b46.7564(AT)mx.google.com>
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At 09:32 AM 5/30/2008, Michael Tondee wrote:
>young people to the hobby. What better way to do that than to help college
>students out with a cubesat project? Should the prescense of a transponder
>be a prerequisite for our knowledge and resources? Why does there
>automatically have to be something in it for "us"?
And if we want a transponder (linear, FM or whatever) on the bird,
why not offer one for the students to integrate in, as others have
suggested? They may take it up, they may decide they can't afford
the space or power budget or time and not take up the offer, but at
least we've lowered the barrier to getting a transponder for general
amateur use on board.
73 de VK3JED
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:03:01 +0000
From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Shuttle question
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org (AMSAT-BB)
Message-ID:
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Hello
I'm sure this question has been bounced around the BB in past. I simply don't
recall (senior moment) the results. With all the TONS of stuff they regularly
pack up there, it seems logical (another senior moment), that an extra few
pounds wouldn't even be noticed, maybe even more than a few pounds. Then we
can figure a way to get it even higher than the ISS. Just thinking of a way
to get more of a foot in the shuttle door.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:25:09 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002001c8c1f4$0775c9c0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations
> > There seems to be a proliferation of satellites
> > using the Amateur bands as cheap down links,
> > and using Radio Amateurs as a cheap way of
> > collecting their data. It is MY personal belief
> > that a satellite should only use our hard-earned
> > and much coveted frequencies if they REALLY do
> > carry an Amateur Radio payload... I.E.
> > a Transponder!
>
> While I too like to see transponders, I do not like to see all
> the negativizim, hate and rabble-rousing against those who
> actually get something into space. The self-richeous nay-saying
> comments are about as practical as these:
>
> "Those HF contesters should not be using the Amateur Bands, they
> should be passing useful communications or traffic!"
>
> "Those Traffic passers are not real amateur operators, because
> they will not respond with QSL's!"
>
> "Those old fud rag chewers on HF think they own the frequency.
> They should let others use the frequency for more useful
> communications"
>
> "Those FM commuters are just wasting air time, saying the same
> old thing every day. Why don't they just use a cell phone!"
>
> "Those AM guys are just wasting 6 KHz of spectrum, they should
> be made illegal on the amateur bands"
>
> "Who wants to look at all those SSTV pictures, Its just the
> same old post-card! They should not be using 3 KHz of bandwidth
> for such stupid applications"...
>
> "Those Winlink guys are killing amateur radio by turning the
> bands into an automatic communications system."
>
> "Those Echolink and IRLP links are bad for ham radio. Why don't
> they just use HF or a phone if they want to talk to someone far
> away."
>
> "Those Radio control Airplanes operating on the Amateur band
> should never be there, they are not communications".
>
> "Those experimental Balloons just transmit pictures and
> telemetry, without a transponder, they have no purpose in
> Amateur Radio"
>
> And on and on...
>
> Face, it.. Ham radio is as rich in applications as there are
> innovative and resourceful people. If you want something done,
> then go do it. If you don't like what others are doing with
> their hobby, then get out of the way.
>
> Public negativizim and constant complaining never accomplishes
> anything except darken our collective hobby. Save that for the
> politicians who are supposed to respond to their constituents.
> For a hobby that is just the collective "us" with each licensed
> individual having the same equal opportunities as everyone else,
> complaining about what others do is just pointless.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
Hi Bob, WB4APR
You cannot get out of the way those Amateur Radio users actually requesting
OSCAR's Satellites with on board transponders because the Amateur Satellite
Service started when in 1972 OSCAR-6 was launched and thousand's of the
above maltreated and by you offended HF users decided to abandone the
Amateur Service to enter into a more bright and promising Amateur Satellite
Service.
The above thousand's HF users invested worldwide a lot of money and a lot
of efforts to convert their HF stations into VHF/UHF/SHF Satellite Stations
with the purpose to get a more communication efficiency against the problems
due of propagation using short waves.
Without the above prerequisite the Amateur Satellite Service never would
had spring up.
Read please this "Brief History" written into page-1 of the AMSAT-UK
OSCAR-13 Operations and Technical Handbook 1989
"Amateur radio satellites have gone through three phases; phase 1:
experimentation to find the possible; phase 2: long life, low orbit
satellites to gain experience; and phase 3: high altitude orbits with
complex transponding and control systems.
Phase 1 started when OSCAR-1 was launched on 12 December 1961 and phase 2
was led by OSCAR-6 in October 1972. Amsat's first attemp for phase 3 (the
satellite known only as phase 3A ) failed when the experimental Ariane
rocked plunged into the South Atlantic in May 1980 . Amsat second attemp
for phase 3 partially succeeded in June 1993 when OSCAR-10 was released
into space . The world's radio amateurs after more than 10 years of low
orbit satellites and associated short visibility periods, at last tasted
Amsat's policy of equivalence to a permantly open 14 MHz band with
practically world wide communications.
OSCAR stands for Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio and a satellite is
a package equipped with solar cells, batteries, receivers, and transmitters,
aerials and control electronics.
The batteries are charged by the solar cells whenever the satellite is in
sunlight.
Signal received in part of one amateur band are retransmitted in part of
another amateur band.
Unlike terrestrial, single frequency, analog repeaters ,the satellite relay
system (called a transponder ) will translate linearly any type of
narrow-band signal such as CW, SSB, RTTY, NBFM, or AM although only
the first four are recommended, being power-efficient and RF low duty cycle
--------------------
Bob,
This is why the above thousands Satellite Experimenter's and User's
mostly coming from the HF are actually waiting for P3-E and her
transponders. Read again please:
".................when OSCAR-10 was released into space . The world's radio
amateurs after more than 10 years of low orbit satellites and associated
short visibility periods, at last tasted Amsat's policy of equivalence to a
permanently open 14 MHz band with practically world wide communications."
I hope that the original unchanged AMSAT's policy will be now clear for
you.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
Past President
AMSAT-Italia
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:11:55 +0000
From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gents across the pond
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org (AMSAT-BB)
Message-ID:
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ast.net>
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For the Gents across the pond
>From my QTH near Seattle Wa. CN87wk there is an ever so small window between
us. We may not be able to say a lot but the fact that we could say anything
at all I find compelling. I regularly listen and call to the "non official"
downlink dx frequency of 145.958. So far there is OH8 and UA0. I can "see"
northern UK and of course our favorite LA gent. It's about timing and a
little luck.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:09:40 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <483F61E4.9040503(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
How about one step further - Maybe they can "pick up" AO-40 and bring it
back for a repair job ?
Ron
KA4KYI
w7lrd(AT)comcast.net wrote:
> Hello
> I'm sure this question has been bounced around the BB in past. I simply
don't recall (senior moment) the results. With all the TONS of stuff they
regularly pack up there, it seems logical (another senior moment), that an
extra few pounds wouldn't even be noticed, maybe even more than a few pounds.
Then we can figure a way to get it even higher than the ISS. Just thinking of
a way to get more of a foot in the shuttle door.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> --
> "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:11:17 -0500
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: <w7lrd(AT)comcast.net>, "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<A2862DA1C49F4145AF6C2A4528294035ACEC02(AT)NDJSEVS21A.ndc.nasa.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
A few extra pounds could be accommodated on the shuttle if you can get high
enough on the priority list. Much of that space is reserved for critical
components (things so big that only the shuttle can get them there) needed for
ISS. Right now, there are only 11 more shuttle flights (including the one
scheduled to launch this Saturday, May 31) and a couple of those may go away
with the shuttle retirement set for 2010. Getting something boosted higher
would take quite a few more pounds, volume and crew time. The greatest
challenge is getting through the human spaceflight certification criteria.
It might be worthwhile to explore some of the other launch vehicles that are a
bit less constrained time wise (Progress, HTV, ATV and COTS) and see if a
piggyback payload could be attached and later boosted. It will still cost
plenty unless the payload has a bank rolled primary objective and amateur
radio happens to fit in the gaps of the design.
Maybe all of the AMSAT's could buy a Progress after it has served it's purpose
and have the Russians boost it to a higher orbit instead of ditching it
afterwards. It comes with solar cells pre-installed ;)
Kenneth - N5VHO
________________________________
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org on behalf of w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Sent: Thu 5/29/2008 7:03 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Shuttle question
Hello
I'm sure this question has been bounced around the BB in past. I simply don't
recall (senior moment) the results. With all the TONS of stuff they regularly
pack up there, it seems logical (another senior moment), that an extra few
pounds wouldn't even be noticed, maybe even more than a few pounds. Then we
can figure a way to get it even higher than the ISS. Just thinking of a way
to get more of a foot in the shuttle door.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:37:00 -0400
From: "Jim Danehy" <jdanehy(AT)cinci.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: you guys look bad
To: "Stephan Andre'" <andres(AT)msu.edu>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EAC7F81CB63C459E841998132C00D67E(AT)JamesPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Steve
I am going to be 70 years old in 6 weeks. I am a lawyer who just retired. I
have had a pretty good dose of human nature in my life time. I have been
around on the air for 55 years too. What do I want ?
I remember some PR that IBM had decades ago. THIMK
73 Jim W9VNE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephan Andre'" <andres(AT)msu.edu>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:12 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: you guys look bad
> On Thursday 29 May 2008 17:31:55 Jim Danehy wrote:
>> I joined the AMSAT BB about a week ago. I was looking for some technical
>> assistance . . . I normally do not subscribe to "reflectors" ( bulletin
>> boards). . . . I now have a reminder why I refrain from doing that.
>>
>> I have been able to get some excellent ideas about what I am trying to do
>> personally with my station. Thanks to those who have written me.
>>
>> A little more of the belly aching and I will pull the darn plug . . . I
>> wonder if there is this type of complaining on EME associated bulletin
>> boards ?
>>
>> Jim W9VNE
>
> Jim, Most of the lists I'm on reflect that wide variety of human
> attributes,
> including such as great helpers and constant whiners. It's what you get
> when dealing with a clump of humans. Yes, there is squabbling at times
> on EME mailing lists. The biggest contention there, as far as I can tell
> is
> the idea of whether digital modes like WSJT is a good idea, if its
> compatible
> in contests with other modes, etc.
>
> Just like all the other lists I'm on, there are folks who disagree. You
> don't want lists that are all sweetness, do you?
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf en82
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:16:26 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola(AT)aol.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: <w7lrd(AT)comcast.net>, "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002801c8c1fb$2a625aa0$0200a8c0(AT)Tanguray>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I read a story this morning...I can't remember where, that the toilet on ISS
has had a broken pump for the past 5 days...they were rushing the 35# pump
from Russia to FL and in order to get it onto the shuttle, they were
considering leaving off a set of wrenches so that they had some place to put
the pump.
The pump was brought into the country in a diplomatic bag...
Then again...maybe I just dreamed it all and should start writing science
fiction ;-)
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: <w7lrd(AT)comcast.net>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:03 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Shuttle question
> Hello
> I'm sure this question has been bounced around the BB in past. I simply
don't recall (senior moment) the results. With all the TONS of stuff they
regularly pack up there, it seems logical (another senior moment), that an
extra few pounds wouldn't even be noticed, maybe even more than a few
pounds. Then we can figure a way to get it even higher than the ISS. Just
thinking of a way to get more of a foot in the shuttle door.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> --
> "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:33:27 -0400
From: "Jim Danehy" <jdanehy(AT)cinci.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: you guys look bad
To: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <6EA1AD7A268C4154ABAFB866070FB0EF(AT)JamesPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Jeff you are correct. I used to use the 160 mtr "list" when I was into my
160 mtr DXCC quest (I was successful). There was a moderator and he would
cut you off and strike you from the "list". In retrospect that worked. ENUFF
already
Jim W9VNE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: you guys look bad
> >From what I hear, it's worse: you have the CW purists who feel that
> everybody should use that mode only and then you have the WSJT users who
> are
> accused of using software that "makes up" the QSO's or some such
> nonsense.
> It's ridiculous and prevalent on just about every list that isn't heavily
> moderated.
>
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Danehy" <jdanehy(AT)cinci.rr.com>
>
>
> [snip]
> A little more of the belly aching and I will pull the darn plug . . . I
> wonder if there is this type of complaining on EME associated bulletin
> boards ?
>
> Jim W9VNE
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 00:30:47 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj(AT)innismir.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <483F82F7.8050501(AT)innismir.net>
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i8cvs wrote:
| You cannot get out of the way those Amateur Radio users actually
requesting
| OSCAR's Satellites with on board transponders because the Amateur
Satellite
| Service started when in 1972 OSCAR-6 was launched and thousand's of the
| above maltreated and by you offended HF users decided to abandone the
| Amateur Service to enter into a more bright and promising Amateur
Satellite
| Service.
*snip*
| Read please this "Brief History" written into page-1 of the AMSAT-UK
| OSCAR-13 Operations and Technical Handbook 1989
*snip*
| OSCAR stands for Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio and a
satellite is
| a package equipped with solar cells, batteries, receivers, and
transmitters,
| aerials and control electronics.
This seems to fit the definition of RS-30 perfectly. Just because it
isn't configured for transponder use (as far as we know; did I miss a
definitive answer on this?) doesn't make it any less of an "Orbital
Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio".
RS-30 seems to fit the checklist perfectly:
* Satellite - Check!
* Orbiting - Check!
* Carrying Amateur Radio - Check!
*grin*
| I hope that the original unchanged AMSAT's policy will be now clear for
| you.
I don't understand how RS-30 doesn't meet AMSAT's policy and Bob's
statement is correct, complaining about another satellite in orbit isn't
constructive in any way shape or form.
Robert Bruninga wrote:
| Face, it.. Ham radio is as rich in applications as there are
| innovative and resourceful people. If you want something done,
| then go do it. If you don't like what others are doing with
| their hobby, then get out of the way.
This is 100% on the money. The nay-sayers can complain all they want but
the issue at hand is that if they want something done, they need to roll
up their sleeves and do it. Otherwise they should not complain.
Amateur Radio is about experimentation. If another person's experiments
don't suit you, don't get involved with them. Don't start insulting them.
- --
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:49:52 -0500
From: "Andrew Koenig" <andrewkoenig(AT)thathamkid.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 2nd Repeater
To: "Michael Tondee" <mat_62(AT)netcommander.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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I enjoyed it too! I was able to have a small QSO with W5KUB while the other
repeater was packed tight (chaos isn't the right word for that).
Thanks KO4MA (And other AO-51 ops) for enabling the second transponder.
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Michael Tondee <mat_62(AT)netcommander.com>
wrote:
> It was very enjoyable pass last night indeed. Much different than the other
> repeater. Although I do somewhat enjoy the fast pace of the "chaos" over
> there as well, it was nice to be able to hear myself clearly on the
> downlink
> for an entire transmission!
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Garie Halstead K8KFJ" <khyberpass65(AT)yahoo.com>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:46 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 2nd Repeater
>
>
> > --- "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Good Morning, everyone.
> >>
> >> Thanks Drew, et al, for once again switching on
> >> AO-51's QRP/Second Channel.
> >>
> >> It always makes for a nice change of pace, and
> >> judging from last
> >> night's pass over FN02, activity was quite good.
> >
> > Hello John. I hadn't been on the FM sats in a very
> > long time but picked last night to jump on after
> > hearing about the second repeater. It was a very
> > orderly group totally devoid of the chaos I had
> > remembered from years past. It was a totally
> > enjoyable experience. I got my 2 Q's and let other
> > have at it. I later heard KC8RAN, KC2LRC, W4HIJ and
> > KB2HSH. My thanks to Jay AA4FL and Drew KO4MA for my
> > contacts. The 2nd repeater worked very well indeed.
> >
> > 73, Gary -K8KFJ-
> > West Virginia (EM98)
> > AMSAT #32574
> > Sat VUCC #125
>
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--
73's
Andrew K.
KE5GDB
http://www.thathamkid.com
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:16:26 -0600
From: "Dick Williams" <k8ztt(AT)mho.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 3D2 maps
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I sent an inquiry to Erich concerning the following problem, but I am
wondering if anybody else is having the same problem with V12.8 of SATPC32.
Problem: I cannot seem to get the 3D2 maps to work. I unzipped the two
files (BM_Maps3D_2 and Maps3D_2) and all the maps 67 or so maps are present
in the two folders.
When I start SATPC32 I still can only toggle between 3D1 and 2D (no 3D2 is
available). I have the window size set at W3 which give a Program window
size of 1024/768 in the Options pull down.
I cannot figure out why I don't have the third option available 3D/2D select
button available.
Thanks for any help
Dick K8ZTT
Franktown CO
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