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Today's Topics:
1. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations (G0MRF(AT)aol.com)
2. Re: SATPC32 3D2 maps (Erich Eichmann)
3. Re: Shuttle question (Tony Langdon)
4. Re grizzles (don)
5. TS-2000X and SatPC32 12.8 (Mark L. Hammond)
6. Re: SATPC32 version 12.8 SuM glitch? (Alan P. Biddle)
7. Re: SATPC32 3D2 maps (Alan P. Biddle)
8. FCAL Mission patch winners (Ivan Galysh)
9. Re: Shuttle question (Ken Ernandes)
10. N5AFV Planning Special Event Station Double Header
(Allen F Mattis)
11. Re: Re grizzles (morsesat(AT)optonline.net)
12. Re: Shuttle question (Edward Cole)
13. ISS QSO's? (w0dxz(AT)aol.com)
14. Re: TS-2000X and SatPC32 12.8 (Stefan Wagener)
15. SatPC32 V12.8 (James Denneny)
16. Re: Re grizzles (Robert Bruninga)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:34:28 EDT
From: G0MRF(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <cfc.35245969.3570f9f4(AT)aol.com>
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So, lesson learned:
Establish contacts with AMSAT R. If it exists.
Encourage co-operation between AMSAT R and various CIS space companies.
Influence companies to include globally appreciated amateur communications
systems as means of increasing public awareness of companies existence and
products.
Also, be very grateful 70cms is a shared band with the military, as that's
the main reason it's not full of WiFi as 2.4GHz is.
As for university cubesats sending data on amateur bands. Terrific. I get
a great thrill imagining the sound of Delfi C3 emerging from the radio in a
Lebanese (etc) taxi cab.
Use it or lose it!
Regards
David G0MRF
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:35:04 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann(AT)t-online.de>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 3D2 maps
To: "Dick Williams" <k8ztt(AT)mho.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <004101c8c21f$4d8d26d0$0201a8c0(AT)name90360d0545>
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Dick,
that is a bug in V. 12.8. I will fix it soon and upload a revised setup
file.
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Williams" <k8ztt(AT)mho.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:16 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 3D2 maps
>I sent an inquiry to Erich concerning the following problem, but I am
> wondering if anybody else is having the same problem with V12.8 of
> SATPC32.
>
> Problem: I cannot seem to get the 3D2 maps to work. I unzipped the two
> files (BM_Maps3D_2 and Maps3D_2) and all the maps 67 or so maps are
> present
> in the two folders.
>
> When I start SATPC32 I still can only toggle between 3D1 and 2D (no 3D2 is
> available). I have the window size set at W3 which give a Program window
> size of 1024/768 in the Options pull down.
>
> I cannot figure out why I don't have the third option available 3D/2D
> select
> button available.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Dick K8ZTT
> Franktown CO
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:50:05 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>, w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
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At 12:09 PM 5/30/2008, Ronald Nutter wrote:
>How about one step further - Maybe they can "pick up" AO-40 and bring it
>back for a repair job ?
That would be extremely tricky. I haven't done the sums, but there
is a significant difference in velocity between AO-40 at perigee and
a LEO. However, the delta-V required would be well beyond the
Shuttle's capabilities (Ever seen a Shuttle launched into
GTO?). Assuming someone had the money to pay for AO-40's return,
you'd require some propulsion unit sent up to slow it down and
circularize the orbit (possibly with the assistance of aerobraking
over a period of time), before you could organise a Shuttle flight to
pick it up. Given the cost and the number of unknowns (like how safe
would it be to carry AO-40 back, given we have no idea of its
condition except that it's up there somewhere), I'd say the odds of
this happening are essentially zero.
Interesting "thought experiment" though. :)
73 de VK3JED
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:23:53 +1200
From: don <donmc(AT)xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re grizzles
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <483FD5B9.60400(AT)xtra.co.nz>
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I'm surprised that the trolling occurring on the BBS has aroused such
strange reactions.
Surely there is a place for all space endeavors to be discussed,
rationally, on this BBS (nearly said BS there!).
Personally speaking I have had great help from many on this list,
including some whose (political/technical) views differ from mine.
I well remember the replies that I got from A way off topic subject a
few months ago that really, really helped me out.I guess that a lot of
the help etc that is provided from a request on the BBS is not seen by
the majority simply because the replies are direct to the the original
poster, maybe we (I) should dual post, and annoy a lot of the casual
"skimmers" on the BBS?
As to having "moderators" controlling the NA AMSAT BBS I'd have to say no.
Why, well I feel that a lot of (most) folk that post are trying to find
an answer to a question or simply throw something into the ring and
check back for an Answer or may be open their mailbox to see if a reader
has replied directly.
I'm sure others on the BBS can relate to my experiences, and can see the
value in leaving the (basically self moderating) bbs as it is.
73,
Don
ZL1THO
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:38:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <n8mh(AT)embarqmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TS-2000X and SatPC32 12.8
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID:
<1194272887.942721212147513068.JavaMail.root(AT)pd02.embarq.synacor.com>
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Hello List,
After checking with Erich and his always timely and helpful responses, I still
am having trouble with SatPC32 ver. 12.8 and CAT control on the TS-2000X.?
Erich is not able to reproduce my results...his is working just fine.
The trouble seems to be specific to the SSB mode birds.? The symptom is that
the frequency isn't updated at the expected interval (Doppler correction isn't
occurring at the expected frequency change intervals).?? It is slow to occur,
if at all.
Futhermore, when trying to change between U/V and V/U birds, the band changes
don't occur (i.e., the xmit/rcv VFO's don't swap bands).
Everything works perfectly under ver. 12.7.? I have checked and rechecked
settings in ver. 12.8, and I have uninstalled/reinstalled, and still the
symptoms appear.? I am using WinXP Pro.? I'm not sure what firmware I have in
the TS-2000X..but it works perfectly under 12.7.
Is anyone else using a TS-2000X or TS-2000 seeing similar symptoms with ver.
12.8??
--
Mark?L.?Hammond?[N8MH]
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:12:23 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 version 12.8 SuM glitch?
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1449A4E77B1540BEB8305EDA2B8D7268(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dick,
Thanks for the input. I should have added that I preserved a copy of the
version 12.7 installation, and when I run SuM from there, it starts
correctly and gives reasonable values. Also, when run from the version
12.8, while you can get past the error message, the rotator driver does not
start. I am using the LabJack interface.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:12:23 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 3D2 maps
Cc: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EBC3B32F92F442DA87EA5A006C9EEC1E(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dick,
I saw Erich's reply, and yes, I can also duplicate this. ;) Hadn't noticed
it.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:36:46 -0400
From: Ivan Galysh <ivan.galysh(AT)nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FCAL Mission patch winners
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <483FF4DE.9010001(AT)nrl.navy.mil>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello all,
Now that FCAL is down, I went through all the emails sent with FCAL
data. Four people sent me data.
I received data from Mike Ruppercht DK3WN, Armando Mercado N8IGJ, Bent
Bagger representting AMSAT-OZ, and Edward Chuang BX1AD.
It turns out, I have four mission patches so all will receive one plus a
mission coffee mug. One surprise about the mission patch. These are STP
mission patches that have flown on the space shuttle when FCAL and ANDE
were released. I will include the letter of authentication that
indicates these patches flew in space.
Thanks for all your help. Hope to do it again soon.
Ivan Galysh
KD4HBO
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:14:20 -0400
From: "Ken Ernandes" <n2wwd(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: "'Ransom, Kenneth G. \(JSC-OC\)[BAR]'"
<kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>, <w7lrd(AT)comcast.net>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000901c8c257$127993c0$376cbb40$(AT)com>
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The Shuttle doesn't have nearly the propellant capacity to match speeds with
AO-40, even if it were in the same orbital plane. To capture AO-40, it
would need to match AO-40's orbit. Just to get into the elliptical orbit
and decrease the inclination to 7-degrees is well more thrusting (delta-V)
capacity than the Shuttle has. Just to put it into perspective it would
need:
1. Maneuver from a 400-km circular orbit to produce a 1200-km apogee (to
match AO-40's perigee) -- needs ~211 m/sec of delta-V
2. To perform an apogee boost to match AO-40's semi-major axis and
eccentricity (1200 x 58600-km) -- needs ~2660 m/sec of delta-V.
3. To perform an apogee plane change would require at minimum a 21.5-degree
inclination, were the Shuttle launched into its minimal 28.5-degree
inclination. The delta-V for the minimal apogee inclination-only change
would need ~427 m/sec. For the 51.6 degree ISS inclination (44.6-deg
change), the delta-V would be ~905 m/sec.
4. Perform terminal rendezvous and capture maneuvers - small in comparison
to the others, so I'll call it free.
5. After capturing AO-40, the Shuttle would need to de-boost to a low-Earth
orbit (LEO), which requires a perigee braking thrust of another 2660 m/sec.
6. The Shuttle would then need enough delta-V to de-orbit.
The minimum delta-V in the [optimistic] profile I've described would be 211
+ 2660 + 427 + 2660 = 5958 m/sec, plus de-orbit delta-V. That's a
significant percentage of what it took to put it in orbit to begin with and
it still would need enough delta-V to de-orbit. One more piece of bad news:
the astronauts would need to fly through the intense radiation environment
that AO-40 orbits and remain there long enough to perform the maneuvers I've
described and capture AO-40. That would be a serious health risk at the
very least.
I think you'll agree, after looking at the numbers, that this suggestion is
not feasible.
73, Ken Ernandes N2WWD
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)AMSAT.Org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)AMSAT.Org] On
Behalf Of Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:11 PM
To: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net; AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
A few extra pounds could be accommodated on the shuttle if you can get high
enough on the priority list. Much of that space is reserved for critical
components (things so big that only the shuttle can get them there) needed
for ISS. Right now, there are only 11 more shuttle flights (including the
one scheduled to launch this Saturday, May 31) and a couple of those may go
away with the shuttle retirement set for 2010. Getting something boosted
higher would take quite a few more pounds, volume and crew time. The
greatest challenge is getting through the human spaceflight certification
criteria.
It might be worthwhile to explore some of the other launch vehicles that are
a bit less constrained time wise (Progress, HTV, ATV and COTS) and see if a
piggyback payload could be attached and later boosted. It will still cost
plenty unless the payload has a bank rolled primary objective and amateur
radio happens to fit in the gaps of the design.
Maybe all of the AMSAT's could buy a Progress after it has served it's
purpose and have the Russians boost it to a higher orbit instead of ditching
it afterwards. It comes with solar cells pre-installed ;)
Kenneth - N5VHO
________________________________
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org on behalf of w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Sent: Thu 5/29/2008 7:03 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Shuttle question
Hello
I'm sure this question has been bounced around the BB in past. I simply
don't recall (senior moment) the results. With all the TONS of stuff they
regularly pack up there, it seems logical (another senior moment), that an
extra few pounds wouldn't even be noticed, maybe even more than a few
pounds. Then we can figure a way to get it even higher than the ISS. Just
thinking of a way to get more of a foot in the shuttle door.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:14:15 -0500
From: "Allen F Mattis" <afmattis(AT)hal-pc.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] N5AFV Planning Special Event Station Double
Header
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <web-495506371(AT)mail.hal-pc.org>
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N5AFV Planning Special Event Station Double Header
The week end of May 31st ? June 1st, 2008, Allen, N5AFV, will operate
two special event stations on the FM satellites from the Texas Hill
Country.
On Saturday, May 31st Allen plans to climb to the top of Enchanted
Rock, the second highest point in the state of Texas, and operate two
satellite passes using his W32A HT and AL800 telescoping antenna. The
passes will be an AO-27 pass at 2121 UTC, and an SO-50 pass at 2135
UTC. Enchanted Rock is a unique pink granite dome that rises 425 feet
above the surrounding countryside. Tonkawa Indians named the granite
dome Enchanted Rock because they believed that ghost fires flickered
at the top and that a Spanish conquistador had cast a spell on the
dome. A steep hiking trail 0.6 miles long provides access to the top
of the dome. Enchanted Rock is located in Maidenhead grid square EM00
and Allen will use his call sign, N5AFV, for the operation.
The following day, June 1st, Ten-Ten International will hold its 20th
annual (and final) Hill Country Picnic in Bulverde, Texas (Maidenhead
grid square EL09). To commemorate the 20th and last Ten Ten
International Hill County Picnic, Allen has been authorized to use the
Ten Ten International club call sign, W6OI, on the OSCAR satellites on
June 1st. Tentative plans include conducting a satellite demo for
those attending the picnic, probably on the 2024 UTC pass of SO-50 or
the 2052 UTC pass of AO-27. Other satellite passes will also be
worked June 1st UTC time using the W6OI call sign.
QSL information for both operations is to N5AFV with an SASE.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 14:15:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: morsesat(AT)optonline.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Re grizzles
To: don <donmc(AT)xtra.co.nz>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <e4a9f747f324.48400be9(AT)optonline.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Don, (et al)
First, if some of our leadership doesn't hear about any dis-satisfactions
amoung memers, they will not know that anything is in disarray. I have been a
long time member and love to hear all that transpires through this BB.
I learn that the most unfascinating thing to the overwhelming majority is LEO
satellites. While they offer EZ sat capability, a one channel unit doesn't
peak the skills of a conversation through staellites as on HF and VHF local
repeaters. HEO type birds offer a great deal more- scheduling nets, and more
contacts depending on the position of the HEO.
Our members deserve information in a timely manner and this BB offers that
too. I beleive in "delete" buttons and I use mine frequently with a grain of
salt as needed.
The information gathered here is by far a more rewarding an experience than
any other distraction. Remember, our group is as active as its membership.
See all in NJ at the BARA hamfest 5/31/08 in Westwood, NJ (& others)
73,
Dee, NB2F
NJ AMSAT co-ordinator and promoter
----- Original Message -----
From: don
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:59 am
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re grizzles
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>
> I'm surprised that the trolling occurring on the BBS has aroused
> such
> strange reactions.
>
> Surely there is a place for all space endeavors to be discussed,
> rationally, on this BBS (nearly said BS there!).
>
> Personally speaking I have had great help from many on this
> list,
> including some whose (political/technical) views differ from mine.
>
> I well remember the replies that I got from A way off topic
> subject a
> few months ago that really, really helped me out.I guess that a
> lot of
> the help etc that is provided from a request on the BBS is not
> seen by
> the majority simply because the replies are direct to the the
> original
> poster, maybe we (I) should dual post, and annoy a lot of the
> casual
> "skimmers" on the BBS?
>
> As to having "moderators" controlling the NA AMSAT BBS I'd have
> to say no.
>
> Why, well I feel that a lot of (most) folk that post are trying
> to find
> an answer to a question or simply throw something into the ring
> and
> check back for an Answer or may be open their mailbox to see if
> a reader
> has replied directly.
>
> I'm sure others on the BBS can relate to my experiences, and can
> see the
> value in leaving the (basically self moderating) bbs as it is.
>
> 73,
> Don
> ZL1THO
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 06:15:42 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle question
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <200805301415.m4UEFg51034708(AT)iris.acsalaska.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 11:50 PM 5/29/2008, Tony Langdon wrote:
>At 12:09 PM 5/30/2008, Ronald Nutter wrote:
> >How about one step further - Maybe they can "pick up" AO-40 and bring it
> >back for a repair job ?
>
>That would be extremely tricky. I haven't done the sums, but there
>is a significant difference in velocity between AO-40 at perigee and
>a LEO. However, the delta-V required would be well beyond the
>Shuttle's capabilities (Ever seen a Shuttle launched into
>GTO?). Assuming someone had the money to pay for AO-40's return,
>you'd require some propulsion unit sent up to slow it down and
>circularize the orbit (possibly with the assistance of aerobraking
>over a period of time), before you could organise a Shuttle flight to
>pick it up. Given the cost and the number of unknowns (like how safe
>would it be to carry AO-40 back, given we have no idea of its
>condition except that it's up there somewhere), I'd say the odds of
>this happening are essentially zero.
>
>Interesting "thought experiment" though. :)
>
>73 de VK3JED
>http://vkradio.com
>
Once you total the costs it may actually be cheaper to build a new
satellite and launch it!
Back the effort for P3E and Eagle/P4.
73 Ed - KL7UW
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:52:07 -0400
From: w0dxz(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS QSO's?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <8CA907BDDD4DCEF-854-29C5(AT)webmail-ne18.sysops.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Is the? ISS ever open for random FM QSO's anymore or is it all school stuff?
Hmmm AZ is in which zone?
Bob W0DXZ
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:03:35 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <stefan_wagener(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TS-2000X and SatPC32 12.8
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <n8mh(AT)embarqmail.com>, amsat-bb
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY130-W551AF1421F9D653B05A074F6BE0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Thanks Mark,
I thought I was the only one with that problem. Same results here. SSB update
very slow or not happening with the TS2000 (0 delay setting,. highest baud
rate), once I switch to FM it seems to work. It is even worse if you have two
radios connected. IC910H same issue.
Another hidden problem is the delay rate with the IC910 and SatPc32 (previous
and this version). It does not work with 0 delay and needs at least 30 or 40.
That makes it impossible tracking efficiently DelfiC3 telemetry without
constant manual overwrite and fine tuning. Seems to be specific to SatPC32
since HamRadio Deluxe runs the IC910 without delay and the doppler control is
much better timed.
Stefan VE4NSA
Stefan VE4NSA> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 07:38:33 -0400> From:
n8mh(AT)embarqmail.com> To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org> Subject: [amsat-bb] TS-
2000X and SatPC32 12.8> > > > Hello List, > > After checking with Erich and
his always timely and helpful responses, I still am having trouble with
SatPC32 ver. 12.8 and CAT control on the TS-2000X. Erich is not able to
reproduce my results...his is working just fine. > > The trouble seems to be
specific to the SSB mode birds. The symptom is that the frequency isn't
updated at the expected interval (Doppler correction isn't occurring at the
expected frequency change intervals). It is slow to occur, if at all. > >
Futhermore, when trying to change between U/V and V/U birds, the band changes
don't occur (i.e., the xmit/rcv VFO's don't swap bands). > > Everything works
perfectly under ver. 12.7. I have checked and rechecked settings in ver.
12.8, and I have uninstalled/reinstalled, and still the symptoms appear. I am
using WinXP Pro. I'm not sur!
e what firmware I have in the TS-2000X..but it works perfectly under 12.7. >
> Is anyone else using a TS-2000X or TS-2000 seeing similar symptoms with ver.
12.8? > > -- > Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] >
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:24:27 -0700
From: "James Denneny" <57JNDenneny(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 V12.8
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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V12.8 is up and running. I learned the hard way that it is essential (as
instructed) to copy all SatPC32 files into a new folder I named SatPC32_127.
Then totally uninstall SatPC32 including removal of folder. Then, do a
regedit removal of all vestiges of SatPC32 values before installing V12.8.
I could then copy all my setup, keps etc from the SatPC32_127 folder to
V12.8.
One thing noted - when running SatPC32ISS V12.8, the CAT feature is not
working with my IC910H. The CAT works with the regular SatPC32 v12.8
program. Is this normal?
Jim K7EG
Auburn WA
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 11:29:39 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Re grizzles
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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> I learn that the most unfascinating thing
> to the overwhelming majority is LEO satellites.
Me thinks you skews the facts.
If it is so "unfascinating", why is it the most popular mode?
If it is an "overwhelming majority" that hate LEO's and that
want Linear transponders, then why is it that the linear birds
are so underutilized that many times it is impossible to find
anyone on them?
I think you confuse "Overwhelming majoirty" with loudest and
most overbearing ad-nauseum complainers.
Another way to look at it could be that the wall-to-wall users
on the FM LEO's could also me considerd as a pretty loud
"overwhelming majority" that completely refutes your claim.
They are USING the bird and demonstrating it every day.
Rather than complaining here with a keyboard, how about firing
up your SSB rig, getting on the Linear birds and complain there.
Put your mouth where your loyalty is. You would be at least
using your favorite bird and mode and substantiating your claim,
instead of arm chair complaining as a non user.
Sure these linear birds are not HEO's, but they are multi-qso.
And sure I'd like to drive a Corvette and would love for AMSAT
to buy me one. But I don't think it is fair to complain year in
and year out about why the few do'ers in AMSAT have not bought
me one yet. (Though, these days, I'd rather have a Prius)...
AMSAT is working on several initiatives to get HEO satellites.
They know how valuable they are. Just stop bashing everyone
else who finds it fun to work with what we have now.
Bob, WB4APR
> While they offer EZ sat
> capability, a one channel unit doesn't peak the skills of a
> conversation through staellites as on HF and VHF local
> repeaters. HEO type birds offer a great deal more-
> scheduling nets, and more contacts depending on the position
> of the HEO.
> Our members deserve information in a timely manner and this
> BB offers that too. I beleive in "delete" buttons and I use
> mine frequently with a grain of salt as needed.
> The information gathered here is by far a more rewarding an
> experience than any other distraction. Remember, our group
> is as active as its membership.
> See all in NJ at the BARA hamfest 5/31/08 in Westwood, NJ (&
others)
> 73,
> Dee, NB2F
> NJ AMSAT co-ordinator and promoter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: don
> Date: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:59 am
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re grizzles
> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>
> >
> > I'm surprised that the trolling occurring on the BBS has
aroused
> > such
> > strange reactions.
> >
> > Surely there is a place for all space endeavors to be
discussed,
> > rationally, on this BBS (nearly said BS there!).
> >
> > Personally speaking I have had great help from many on this
> > list,
> > including some whose (political/technical) views differ from
mine.
> >
> > I well remember the replies that I got from A way off topic
> > subject a
> > few months ago that really, really helped me out.I guess
that a
> > lot of
> > the help etc that is provided from a request on the BBS is
not
> > seen by
> > the majority simply because the replies are direct to the
the
> > original
> > poster, maybe we (I) should dual post, and annoy a lot of
the
> > casual
> > "skimmers" on the BBS?
> >
> > As to having "moderators" controlling the NA AMSAT BBS I'd
have
> > to say no.
> >
> > Why, well I feel that a lot of (most) folk that post are
trying
> > to find
> > an answer to a question or simply throw something into the
ring
> > and
> > check back for an Answer or may be open their mailbox to see
if
> > a reader
> > has replied directly.
> >
> > I'm sure others on the BBS can relate to my experiences, and
can
> > see the
> > value in leaving the (basically self moderating) bbs as it
is.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don
> > ZL1THO
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