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Today's Topics:
1. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (Joe Westbrook)
2. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (Joe Westbrook)
3. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (Joe Westbrook)
4. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (Joe Westbrook)
5. JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board Nominations
Coming Due, (Bill Ress)
6. Satellite Prediction Listing (SPL) Web Service Online
(Phelps Williams)
7. Cubesat report over VK (David)
8. phasing harness for A144-20 (WW3S)
9. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board
Nominations Coming Due, (Joe Westbrook)
10. Field Day and D0-64 (kc6uqh)
11. Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations, (mvm)
12. Re: phasing harness for A144-20 (Sebastian)
13. Yubileiny downlink spectrum overlaps AO-51 downlink (OZ1MY)
14. RHCP or LHCP for FM birds (ww3s(AT)zoominternet.net)
15. If you use QRZ.COM to lookup call info - Please read this !
(Ronald Nutter)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:22:04 -0500
From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae(AT)charter.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002a01c8c41c$c6817380$040ba8c0(AT)corp.global.level3.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Wayne:
My problem isn't with AMSAT-NA, mostly with the DL folks. Kind of difficult
for me to volunteer for that position from the US. But you miss my point.
There are people on this board who go into attack mode when someone simply
ask for a little status update. Funny, I just like to know that my
contributions are accomplishing what they were intended to.
Usually the NA folks keep us fairly well informed. I keep hearing that
launch cost are the biggest hurdle. If that is the case then someone should
simply tell the Satellite community what would be a suitable target launch
opportunity, how much money is needed and as we progress, what the delta is.
Seems that I remember that occurred with AO-40.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Estes" <w9ae(AT)charter.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
> Joe K7ZT wrote:
>
> Is it too much to ask for just a little bit of accountability for
> projects that exist as a result of public donations? If any
> organization can't do that then they shouldn't solicit donations. It is
> really a very simple concept. One shouldn't get their head snapped off
> just for asking the question about the status of a given satellite
> project!
>
> Wayne W9AE replies:
>
> AMSAT is a volunteer organization.
> Are you volunteering to fix this accountability problem?
>
> Wayne Estes W9AE
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, CN83ik
> AMSAT Area Coordinator
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:29:26 -0500
From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>, "Edward Cole" <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Message-ID: <003001c8c41d$ce057920$040ba8c0(AT)corp.global.level3.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Dude, don't get your knickers in a twist, my post wasn't an indictment of FM
Repeaters. I don't use them (ever)and frankly could care less what they
cost to run. I am however interested in Satellites that offer just a bit
more of a challenge (HEOs) than operating an airborne version of the
terrestrial version providing more reward for your efforts.
----- Original Message -
From: "Edward Cole" <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
> Without getting into the issue too much. I would remind the project
> managers that their constituency (and contributors or potenitial
> contributors) rely on periodic progress reports on developing
> satellite projects. This complaint is not new to amsat-bb (we heard
> it for AO-40), so it should not be news to project managers.
>
> We all realize that the builders and creators are working hard and
> puting in many volunteer hours, but for the greater satellite
> community to keep interested and supporting they need to hear what is
> happening (fairly frequently). That does take some time and effort
> away from direct project work but is very neccessary for a volunteer
> run organization.
>
> When looking for news on P3E I can find little on-line that is recent
> (most dates two years old), or is only in german language (which I do
> not read/speak). Even if things are at a full standstill the
> supporting membership is owed an occassional update. That may
> generate a few "grousing remarks" from a few but that goes with the task.
>
> Amsat Journal does attempt this to a degree, but I think the summary
> remarks should be given either on Amsat-bb or ANS which is available
> to all. Regular news tells the general satellite community that the
> leadership cares about their support.
>
> It would be good if P3E were to share on Amsat-bb or at least post
> more regular reports to Amsat-DL website. As an Amsat-NA field op I
> get questions that I am not able to answer...that should not happen
> very often. Certainly the basic stuff like how are the new satellite
> projects coming and when can we expect them to be launched.
>
> Since AO-10/13 there has been a long wait for the next full HEO
> sat. AO-40 did not last long enough and it has been a few years
> since then! A lot of folks are trying to be patient and need some
> words to help them keep the faith.
>
>
>
>
> *****************************************************
> 73, Ed - KL7UW BP40iq, 6m - 3cm
> 144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xp20, 185w
> http://www.kl7uw.com AK VHF-Up Group
> NA Rep. for DUBUS: dubususa(AT)hotmail.com
> *****************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:42:48 -0500
From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm(AT)comcast.net>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <003801c8c41f$ac36c540$040ba8c0(AT)corp.global.level3.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
JoAnne:
You know, yours is the typical response that all to often occurs on the
board. I don't think that I could effectively
work as a volunteer for AMSAT-DL.
I'm most interested in the next HEO scheduled to launch but has the least
current information available..
That would be PE3. AMSAT-NA has done a pretty good job of keeping us
informed on the Eagle project.
AMSAT-NA and UK have donated large sums of money to that effort but
therecontinues to be an information
vacuum comming out of Germany. I happen to think that the PE3 leadership
should keep folks informed of progress on these
projects. Additionally, when folks simply ask the question they shouldn't be
attacked.
Regards,
- Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm(AT)comcast.net>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:18 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
> Hi Joe,
>
>> ... support any project that is dedicated to getting the first
>> HEO with linear transponders deployed as long as the leadership
>> is result oriented and devoted to accontability.
>
> Here is an opportunity to become a part of the problem ...
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/volunteers/
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm(AT)amsat.org
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 14:52:13 -0500
From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>, "Edward Cole"
<kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003e01c8c420$fcf82ea0$040ba8c0(AT)corp.global.level3.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Bruce:
looks like you have the same question that I have.
I know how to use the on-line translators, but you still won't find the
answers that donners need to know.
I'm not suggesting that they disclose sensitive information, simply a
statement like we have identified possible
launch opportunities, they cost $xxxxxxx.00, this is the target launch date
we have a remaining delta of $xxxxxxxx.00.
I fail to see how that would put a launch opportunity in jeopardy.
- Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
To: "Edward Cole" <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Cc: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net> wrote:
>> Without getting into the issue too much. I would remind the project
>> managers that their constituency (and contributors or potenitial
>> contributors) rely on periodic progress reports on developing
>> satellite projects. This complaint is not new to amsat-bb (we heard
>> it for AO-40), so it should not be news to project managers.
>
> Isn't the story very simple regarding the critical step of launching
> P3E: they're looking for an affordable ride, and there are none on the
> horizon?
>
> I assume it is very hard to enter into negotiations looking for a
> cut-rate on a launch while publicly naming the party you are
> negotiating with. If I were that party, the first thing I'd insist is
> that there be no mention until a deal is reached, because my
> organization could end up looking like bad guys for even entertaining
> the idea.
>
> On the technical side of P3E, I think we've been reasonably
> well-informed, but then I don't think AMSAT-DL is obliged to report in
> English any more than AMSAT-NA is obliged to publish its reports in
> Japanese and German because significant donors came from those
> countries. We can always get by with online translators if we don't
> know German. It works pretty well; I can show you how.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 14:40:03 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board
Nominations Coming Due,
To: Joe Westbrook <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48431733.3010803(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Also regarding AMSAT-NA Board nominations!!
Joe - I think your question about P3E status and the AMSAT-NA donation
to P3E is fair. Even a return response saying "I don't have the answer"
is much better than no answer at all.
Wayne - you respond to Joe with "AMSAT is a volunteer organization. Are
you volunteering to fix this accountability problem?"
Volunteer organization or professional organization - there needs to be
accountability. You apparently feel there is an accountability problem.
I would agree!!
The operating budget for AMSAT-NA for 2008 is approximately $398.000.
That's money from you, me, the rest of the membership, grants, interest
and dividends, the President's Club, etc. That's not pocket change and
here we are half way through 2008 and I'd venture to say that only a
handful of the membership have any clue where we stand. It has not been
addressed in the AMSAT Journal or on this reflector by a Board member.
Perhaps the short answer is - not many care, but I really can't believe
that.
Comments have recently been made about Eagle. A look at the 2008 Budget
and you'll see "zero" dollars identified for Eagle satellite hardware
development. Yet the published "Mission Vision" for AMSAT is "to deploy
high earth orbit satellite systems that offer daily coverage by 2009 and
continuous coverage by 2012." (see page 2 of the March/April 2008 AMSAT
Journal)
Now - do you think that "Vision" is realistic or should there be some
accounting for why that is still being touted as a reason to financially
support the organization.
The AMSAT Board nominees should be prepared to address this over riding
issue of what I'll call "Mission Accountability."
Well, I go put on my flame retardant flack jacket...Bill - N6GHz
Joe Westbrook wrote:
> Bruce:
> looks like you have the same question that I have.
>
> I know how to use the on-line translators, but you still won't find the
> answers that donners need to know.
> I'm not suggesting that they disclose sensitive information, simply a
> statement like we have identified possible
> launch opportunities, they cost $xxxxxxx.00, this is the target launch date
> we have a remaining delta of $xxxxxxxx.00.
>
> I fail to see how that would put a launch opportunity in jeopardy.
>
> - Joe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
> To: "Edward Cole" <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
> Cc: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:00 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
>
>
>
>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> Without getting into the issue too much. I would remind the project
>>> managers that their constituency (and contributors or potenitial
>>> contributors) rely on periodic progress reports on developing
>>> satellite projects. This complaint is not new to amsat-bb (we heard
>>> it for AO-40), so it should not be news to project managers.
>>>
>> Isn't the story very simple regarding the critical step of launching
>> P3E: they're looking for an affordable ride, and there are none on the
>> horizon?
>>
>> I assume it is very hard to enter into negotiations looking for a
>> cut-rate on a launch while publicly naming the party you are
>> negotiating with. If I were that party, the first thing I'd insist is
>> that there be no mention until a deal is reached, because my
>> organization could end up looking like bad guys for even entertaining
>> the idea.
>>
>> On the technical side of P3E, I think we've been reasonably
>> well-informed, but then I don't think AMSAT-DL is obliged to report in
>> English any more than AMSAT-NA is obliged to publish its reports in
>> Japanese and German because significant donors came from those
>> countries. We can always get by with online translators if we don't
>> know German. It works pretty well; I can show you how.
>>
>> 73, Bruce
>> VE9QRP
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:42:21 -0700
From: "Phelps Williams" <phelpsw(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite Prediction Listing (SPL) Web Service
Online
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Message-ID:
<685b25860806011342l3cc7ce04y37018cb7e775af95(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Satellite Prediction Listing (SPL) is up and running. Utilizing a REST
interface HTTP GETs are used to specify the propagation parameters. This
web service is meant to be used by web or desktop apps removing the
necessity to integrate an orbital propagation model into the application.
Currently the SGP model is being used.
The entire Celestrak library is available as well as the classified TLEs
published by Mike McCants. An autoupdate satellite library manager
automatically refreshes the local cache of celestrak and classified tles.
The entire library is flushed every 24 hours allowing for new additions to
Celestrak to be added. Celestrak seems to be the best alternative to
directly grabbing Space-Track.org elements which would violate the usage
agreement if I understand correctly. All available spacecraft listed here:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/validSats.py
Output formats include XML, HTML, and the Keyhole Markup Language (KML)
allowing integration into Google Maps and Google Earth very easily.
Documentation and instructions on how to use the service are available here:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat
Sample Google Maps / Earth integration examples here:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/docs/kmlexamples.php
SPL uses the Open Source KepCalc Python library available here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/kepcalc KepCalc provides a simple
propagation library with nearly identical implementations in C#, C++,
Python, and Java.
Here are some examples of SPL:
All default parameters:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/spl.py
100 samples of satellite Libertad-1 on May 1st between 00:00:00 and 12:00:00
UTC:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/spl.py?Satellite=31128&TimeStart=2008-05-01-
00-00-00&TimeEnd=2008-05-01-12-00-00&SampleCount=100
A pass of default sat Genesat-1 over an update New York observer, one sample
every 30 seconds:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/spl.py?ObserverAltitude=300.0&ObserverLatitude
=42.4402&ObserverLongitude=-76.4922&SamplePeriod=30&TimeStart=2008-05-14-05-
13-00&TimeEnd=2008-05-14-05-24-00
Current position of the ISS in XML format:
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/spl.py?Output=xml&Satellite=25544
Position of AO-51 (28375) over the past hour with a sample every 60 seconds
in KML format (try saving file as test.kml and load with Google Earth):
http://www.williamslabs.com/sat/spl.py?Satellite=28375&Output=kml&TimeSpan=-
3600&SamplePeriod=60
Feedback and questions are very welcome.
-Phelps Williams
KI6GST
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:48:36 +0930
From: David <vk5dg(AT)aapt.net.au>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cubesat report over VK
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200806020848.36877.vk5dg(AT)aapt.net.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello All,
On the pass just finished (2008/06/01: 2315 UTC)
CUTE1.7 - CW telemetry heard and sent,
COMPASS - not heard while monitoring CUTE1.7
SEEDS - digitalker / SSTV mode
DO-64 silent on both downlink frequencies as usual.
73 de David VK5DG
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:08:55 -0400
From: "WW3S" <ww3s(AT)zoominternet.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] phasing harness for A144-20
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000e01c8c44d$3abaddb0$070aa8c0(AT)ww3s>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Anyone know how to assemble the three pieces of the Cushcraft A144-20 beam?
Wanting to try a satellite station for field day.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:38:32 -0500
From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board
Nominations Coming Due,
To: "Bill Ress" <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <006f01c8c462$21bb20d0$040ba8c0(AT)corp.global.level3.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response
Bill:
Thanks for your response and I sincerely apologize to anyone who was
offended by comments.
What I was attempting to convey was in regard to attacks on folks for merely
asking what the latest status is on PE3. Last week a gentleman who was a
former AMSAT official was just looking for a status update on PE3. The
usual folks went into defensive mode, attacking him so I thought I would
pose the same query. It turned out to be a self fulfilling profecy.
I should know better, but I have a hard time sitting silent.
Regards,
- Joe, K7ZT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Ress" <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
To: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt(AT)suddenlink.net>
Cc: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>; "Edward Cole"
<kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>; "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:40 PM
Subject: JUBILEE and other frustrations and AMSAT Board Nominations Coming
Due,
> Also regarding AMSAT-NA Board nominations!!
>
> Joe - I think your question about P3E status and the AMSAT-NA donation to
> P3E is fair. Even a return response saying "I don't have the answer" is
> much better than no answer at all.
>
> Wayne - you respond to Joe with "AMSAT is a volunteer organization. Are
> you volunteering to fix this accountability problem?"
>
> Volunteer organization or professional organization - there needs to be
> accountability. You apparently feel there is an accountability problem. I
> would agree!!
>
> The operating budget for AMSAT-NA for 2008 is approximately $398.000.
> That's money from you, me, the rest of the membership, grants, interest
> and dividends, the President's Club, etc. That's not pocket change and
> here we are half way through 2008 and I'd venture to say that only a
> handful of the membership have any clue where we stand. It has not been
> addressed in the AMSAT Journal or on this reflector by a Board member.
>
> Perhaps the short answer is - not many care, but I really can't believe
> that.
>
> Comments have recently been made about Eagle. A look at the 2008 Budget
> and you'll see "zero" dollars identified for Eagle satellite hardware
> development. Yet the published "Mission Vision" for AMSAT is "to deploy
> high earth orbit satellite systems that offer daily coverage by 2009 and
> continuous coverage by 2012." (see page 2 of the March/April 2008 AMSAT
> Journal)
>
> Now - do you think that "Vision" is realistic or should there be some
> accounting for why that is still being touted as a reason to financially
> support the organization.
>
> The AMSAT Board nominees should be prepared to address this over riding
> issue of what I'll call "Mission Accountability."
>
> Well, I go put on my flame retardant flack jacket...Bill - N6GHz
>
> Joe Westbrook wrote:
>> Bruce:
>> looks like you have the same question that I have.
>>
>> I know how to use the on-line translators, but you still won't find the
>> answers that donners need to know.
>> I'm not suggesting that they disclose sensitive information, simply a
>> statement like we have identified possible
>> launch opportunities, they cost $xxxxxxx.00, this is the target launch
>> date we have a remaining delta of $xxxxxxxx.00.
>>
>> I fail to see how that would put a launch opportunity in jeopardy.
>>
>> - Joe
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
>> To: "Edward Cole" <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
>> Cc: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:00 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Without getting into the issue too much. I would remind the project
>>>> managers that their constituency (and contributors or potenitial
>>>> contributors) rely on periodic progress reports on developing
>>>> satellite projects. This complaint is not new to amsat-bb (we heard
>>>> it for AO-40), so it should not be news to project managers.
>>>>
>>> Isn't the story very simple regarding the critical step of launching
>>> P3E: they're looking for an affordable ride, and there are none on the
>>> horizon?
>>>
>>> I assume it is very hard to enter into negotiations looking for a
>>> cut-rate on a launch while publicly naming the party you are
>>> negotiating with. If I were that party, the first thing I'd insist is
>>> that there be no mention until a deal is reached, because my
>>> organization could end up looking like bad guys for even entertaining
>>> the idea.
>>>
>>> On the technical side of P3E, I think we've been reasonably
>>> well-informed, but then I don't think AMSAT-DL is obliged to report in
>>> English any more than AMSAT-NA is obliged to publish its reports in
>>> Japanese and German because significant donors came from those
>>> countries. We can always get by with online translators if we don't
>>> know German. It works pretty well; I can show you how.
>>>
>>> 73, Bruce
>>> VE9QRP
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:29:10 -0700
From: "kc6uqh" <kc6uqh(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day and D0-64
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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To All,
I notice that the VU linear transponder is listed on the chart as functional
but the report says non opreational.
Looking for current info and and any info that pertains to possible Field Day
operation of this bird.
Thanks,
Art,
KC6UQH
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:34:22 +0200
From: mvm <amvm(AT)skynet.be>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUBILEE and other frustrations,
To: JoAnne Maenpaa <k9jkm(AT)comcast.net>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <484404EE.5010601(AT)skynet.be>
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JoAnne Maenpaa schreef:
> Hi Joe,
>
>
>> ... support any project that is dedicated to getting the first
>> HEO with linear transponders deployed as long as the leadership
>> is result oriented and devoted to accontability.
>>
>
> Here is an opportunity to become a part of the problem ...
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/volunteers/
>
> --
> 73 de JoAnne K9JKM
> k9jkm(AT)amsat.org
>
>
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I volunteered 3 times on the website, never got an answer... Brougth
that to the attention of BOD members, never got an answer...
Gave up, now spending my energy and $$ elsewhere...
--
/\/\arc
LM2304
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:36:57 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: phasing harness for A144-20
To: AMSAT-BB BBs <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A6217EE6-E18C-4401-B05E-7B8930A0A787(AT)bellsouth.net>
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Cushcraft has a page with the manuals for all of their products for
free download:
http://www.cushcraft.com/amateur/support/instruction-manuals.htm
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On Jun 1, 2008, at 9:08 PM, WW3S wrote:
> Anyone know how to assemble the three pieces of the Cushcraft
> A144-20 beam?
> Wanting to try a satellite station for field day.
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 17:09:12 +0200
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yubileiny downlink spectrum overlaps AO-51
downlink
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Cc: amsat-oz <amsat-oz-bb(AT)amsat.dk>
Message-ID: <000901c8c4c2$c7b9c800$6401a8c0(AT)opasia.dk>
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Hi all,
Please this is just a technical matter :-)
Here this afternoon with Yubileiny AOS at 1430 UTC and
AO-51 with AOS at 1441 UTC in Copenhagen, the downlink
spectrum of Yubileiny was strong when listening to
the AO-51 frequency.
Yubileiny is on 435.315 MHz and AO-51 on 435.300 MHz.
During some of the pass they were at the same Az. angle.
Since their orbit is much different it will change over the year.
The spectrum from Yubileiny is very broad when transmitting
the APT like modulation. Also the signal is very strong.
It helped to use FM Narrow on the IC-910.
I still hope they have included a transponder in Yubileiny.
73 OZ1MY
Ib
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:14:16 -0400
From: ww3s(AT)zoominternet.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] RHCP or LHCP for FM birds
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2454.1212419656(AT)zoominternet.net>
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Thanks to Dom, I now have the phasing harness instructions for the
cushcraft, now, shoudl I set ot for RH or LH polarization? What birds
will be the best choice for field day?
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:11:18 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] If you use QRZ.COM to lookup call info - Please
read this !
To: AMSAT-BB BBs <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <484429B6.4060409(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The data center that QRZ has the servers has had a fire and they are
without power and have had to shut down the generators at the request of
the Houston FD. Please check the following URL for up to date info -
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/01/the_planet_houston_data_center_fire/
Ron
KA4KYI
AMSAT Area Coordinator - Missouri
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