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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space (Ben Jackson)
2. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
(Bruce Robertson)
3. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space (i8cvs)
4. LVB Tracker MacDoppler (Roger Swickis)
5. SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface? (Clive Wallis)
6. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
(John Marranca, Jr)
7. AO-16 (John Marranca, Jr)
8. Re: AO-16 (Alan P. Biddle)
9. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
(Bruce Robertson)
10. Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat (Satoshi Yasuda)
11. Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat (ka3hsw(AT)att.net)
12. Re: AO-16 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
(Simon Brown (HB9DRV))
14. Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
(Fabio Antonio Casagrande)
15. Re: AO-16 (Greg D.)
16. Re: AO-16 (John Marranca, Jr)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:00:53 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj(AT)innismir.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Ben Jackson wrote:
| 1. University builds satellite
| 2. University satellite builders are either hams themselves or are
| endorsed by someone who has a ham radio license.
| 3. University sets up satellite to transmit within the amateur sub bands
It came to my attention that despite me thinking it, I never wrote one
of my steps down, so please add "2a. University coordinates satellite
frequencies with IARU" :)
Complaining about uncoordinated satellites is a valid discussion topic,
~ but people should focus more on fixing the problem rather then
bellyaching about it. :)
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Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:18:17 -0300
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<49657a760806071918g509cf734l2ad8adab1a10c6fc(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:32 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it> wrote:
> Hi Bruce, VE9QRP
>
> Belive or not believe you and me and nobody never made a QSO via
> a Cubesats.
Actually, that might not be true. Apparently the control team tested
the transponder on Delfi C3 recently. I'm not sure if that meant they
made an actual QSO with two stations, or just listened to their own
uplink. In either case, it seems pretty certain we'll have cubesat
QSOs in a matter of weeks.
> The Satellite Amateur Radio Community is not made only by Ham Radio
> scientist working for the Universities but mostly they are working people
> belonging to all working classes.
Fair enough. But Cubesats offer a real opportunity for a far smaller
group of people from all classes to build and launch an amateur
communication satellite, too. Our critical problem, as I see it, is
that in NA and EU there are no free or deeply-discounted rides as
there were in the earlier times. Cubesats seem to offer launches
regularly because they aren't relying on the freebie system, but just
on really small, light objects costing a whole lot less to launch.
> Be sure that once the Universities have the ESA/NASA/JAXA-sponsored
> GENSO project running, they will probably even not need our help anymore,
> but only our frequencies !!!
Dom, judging by the discussion on the irc chat after a cubesat launch,
my contribution will always be valued. Honestly, you'd find it a real
hoot to be part of that whole process. I was so chuffed to hear Defl
C3 booming into my station, about three S-units over VO-52. And, for a
project like Delfi C3, where the more data, the better, an extensive
network like we amateurs offer is a goldmine, never replaced by a
handful of university sites.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
> To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
> Cc: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
>
>
> Dom:
>
> I greatly respect the knowledge you bring to this list, but I think
> you are incorrect here on several fronts.
>
> In at least one instance, the cubesat is, in fact, directly involved
> in amateur communications:
> "OUFTI-1 (University of Li?ge, Belgium): a mission to test the use of
> the D-STAR amateur radio digital communication protocol in space"
>
> As for the others, I think we should consider our telemetry-collecting
> services paid for in arrears by projects like Delfi C3. Like it or
> not, this is the place where small satellites are being routinely and
> cheaply launched. We should give this momentum an occasional nudge in
> the direction of our interests, not decry it.
>
> Finally, I and others find telemetry transmission and collection a
> wholly appropriate and very interesting use of amateur spectra. This
> may sound crazy, but I've come to consider those signals that tell me
> about conditions of the hardware in space often to be more interesting
> than signals bounced from earth through space back to earth.
>
> I think much of the opposition to cubesats derives from the mistaken
> opinion that they represent a lost opportunity to apply the same
> energies to a HEO satellite. My experience within the university makes
> me believe this is false: it is not the case that their universities
> and sponsors would, under other circumstances, pitch in for an amateur
> communications HEO bird.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it> wrote:
>> Hi David, G0MRF
>>
>> It seem to me that while the Universities are becaming tennis players
>> we collect telemetry without to be involved in their experiments and
>> this is like to only pick up their balls and run with it.
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 05:06:58 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <k3io(AT)verizon.net>, "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001d01c8c914$b7ef47a0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <k3io(AT)verizon.net>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:29 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
Of the satellites listed (according to the list posted at
http://www.amsat.org.uk/iaru/finished.asp), the following satellites
have been coordinated with IARU for use of the amateur satellite spectrum:
* Swisscube: Space Center, Ecole Polytechnique F?d?rale de Laus
* Goliat: University of Bucharest
* UWE-2 (but not yet UWE-3): University of Wuerzburg
Unisat3 from Rome was launched with AO-51, however the UniCubesat is not
listed with the IARU.
It appears that the IARU Coordination group knows nothing about the
other satellites listed in the press release. But then, it also appears
that the recent Russian RS-30 "Jubilee" was apparently
unknown/uncoordinated.
If any of you are in contact with any of these groups, please stress to
them the need for coordination with the rest of the amateur
radio/amateur satellite community. Information of the coordination
process, along with some recommendations (including a very useful link
budget spreadsheet from Jan King W3GEY/VK4GEY) can be found at
http://www.iaru.org/satellite/.
73, Tom
Hi Tom, K3IO
The Satellite Frequency Coordinator for IARU Region-1-2 and 3 is
Hans van de Groenendaal ZS6AKV
email: satcoord(AT)iaru.org
web Page http://www.iaru.org/satellite
skype: hanszs6akv1502
Hans represents the Amateur Satellite Service in all IARU conference
but apparently he is very reluctant to discuss our problems on this BB
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 23:16:12 -0700
From: Roger Swickis <rswickis(AT)telus.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker MacDoppler
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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I have just received my assembled LVB Tracker box from AMSAT.
I would like to control it using my iMac and MacDoppler.
I have downloaded the instructions from LVBTracker.com
When I turn on the LVBTracker the indicator says I have v0.7, then it
says "Warning bad EEPROM data." prior to displaying the az/el data.
Should I worry about this or should I simply ignore it? Do I need to
install different firmware?
I have attempted to calibrate the Trackerbox and have managed it a
couple of times, however it doesn't seem to want to retain the
azimuth information once I have turned it off and back on again. Any
suggestions?
(The LVBTracker has both a USB and a DB-9 socket on the back, do I
need to open things up and select one or another? )
I have downloaded the FTDIUSBSerialDriver file. It will only install
on the main "Macintosh HD" level, and does not allow me to select
another location during the installation. I am not familiar with the
Mac OS, do the drivers need to be moved to a particular file?
The instructions suggest that I "... talk to the LVBTracker using a
terminal program ..." Suggesting that I "Setup (via the terminal
program) the COM port selected for the FTDI USB device, 9600, N, 8,
1" How do I perform this "setup"? How do I select a COM port via
the terminal program on a Mac? (I have done this on a PC for a COM
port, but I have no idea how to do it via a USB port on the Mac.)
Any suggestions?
The instructions say that "All the tracking programs ... have good
instructions for setting up a rotor controller." I do not find this
to be true for Macdoppler, which has a minimum of instructions.
(The LVBTracker instructions mentions "Macdoppler Pro", I only have
something called "Macdoppler" do I need to upgrade to Macdoppler Pro?)
Under Macdoppler "Preferences", "Rotator", I can select my rotator,
and baud rate, but I don't know what serial port I should select. I
presume its "usbserial", but it could also be "SerialPort-1", which
is also an option. Is "usbserial" the correct serial port to
select? (I am controlling my IC-821 somewhat successfully via
Macdoppler using "usbserial" and one of the iMac's USB sockets using
a CI-V interface cable. I would like to use another USB cable for
the rotor control. Do I select "usbserial" for both? (Of course
this leaves me a little short of USB sockets, has anyone daisy-
chained the radio and rotor control via a single iMac usb jack and
one of those multi-usb boxes?)
Sorry for all the questions, but I am just about at the stage where I
go back to using my old PC and try to get things running using
SATPC32 through COM ports, but I would like to control things via the
Mac if that is possible.
Is there anyone out there who has succeeded in getting the LVBTracker
to work via Macdoppler and can help?
Thanks,
Roger VA7MG
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:46:50 +0100
From: Clive Wallis <clivew(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <3130303031373237484BAA8A39(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
Hi,
I am currently trying to write a program to get the Doppler shift from
SatExplorer, using the Windows Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) interface.
I'm having difficulties in understanding and programming the DDE system.
Does anyone have any source code (or a URL to one), preferably in C,
which would help to point me in the right direction? Alternatively, a
step by step description of the procedure would be very helpful.
In theory it should be a fairly straightforward task, as the information
is defined by three variables -
Application SAT_EXPLORER
Topic SAT_EXPLORER_DATA
Item SAT_EXPLORER_SERVER
Any help would be much appreciated.
73
Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:54:25 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<8edcdb130806080454p549361fag31a0fa05379d8ebe(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Am I missing something here?
We would all like to see several transponders going up the way they
did in the 90's...myself included. But it just isn't going to happen
that way anymore.
So...a college or other group wants to launch some satellites, and ask
for our help? What's the problem?
Bill has the right attitude pertaining to these little sats...think of
them as "satellites in training". Learning the construction
principles, tracking, control from the ground, and collection of
telemetry allows for more "useful" birds to built in the future.
Now, let's all play nicely again. Have some patience...new toys WILL
be coming for us to play with.
John KB2HSH
--
_______________________________
John Marranca, Jr
PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
BN Systems, Inc
Orchard Park, NY
(716)972-2006
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:59:43 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-16
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<8edcdb130806080459x47b1eebcp51bc56527f66866f(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Any updates on the health/status of our old AO-16???
Been quiet lately....
John KB2HSH
--
_______________________________
John Marranca, Jr
PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
BN Systems, Inc
Orchard Park, NY
(716)972-2006
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:20:29 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <DCA9C2D2C8FC4DA6A62C208CBCBD7012(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
John,
Friday afternoon I was checking some shack work, and heard an AO-16 pass.
It was on and off for several seconds at a time, mostly TLM, but someone
slipped in a quick voice call as well. At least when it was on, it was
loud. Probably testing in progress.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:18:34 -0300
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: G0MRF(AT)aol.com
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<49657a760806080618k108964c1j2b54e29ab511dfc7(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, <G0MRF(AT)aol.com> wrote:
> Cubesats built by students from universities in Poland Spain Italy
> Switzerland Romania France and Belgium have been selected for a free ride to
low earth
> orbit. The launch is scheduled on the Vega maiden flight from Kourou at
the
> end 2008 / early 2009 TBC.
>
> _http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEM2BPUG3HF_index_0.html_
> (http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEM2BPUG3HF_index_0.html)
>
> Thanks
>
> David
If their plans have not progressed too far, I wonder if we can
encourage any of these projects to use an s-band downlink. I know the
path loss needs to be compensated by a more directional antenna, and
that means pointing; and it's also the case, I believe, that the
amplifiers are not as efficient. They'd also have to take into
consideration the noise level in urban areas (though I don't think
this is yet at a level that will trouble LEO signal levels). Add to
this the fact that they'd have far fewer stations capable of receiving
the signals.
>From the perspective of the amateur service, though, having a few
university experiments making use of this band would colonize it very
nicely. And it would let us calibrate and exercise our s-band
equipment.
73, Bruce
VE9QRP
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:47:47 +0900
From: "Satoshi Yasuda" <7m3tjz(AT)jk1zrw.ampr.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <02cb01c8c96e$3d754420$1600a8c0(AT)WIRES>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Giulio and All,
> my questions are:
>
> what do you think about this experiment?
> and, is it possible to use this digital protocoll on a satellite
> (cubesat) ?
Yes, it is possible. Because the RF protocol of D-STAR is 4800bps GMSK (with
BT=0.5) on FM mode.
Satoshi Yasuda 7m3tjz
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:51:27 -0500
From: <ka3hsw(AT)att.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001c01c8c977$21694f20$4001a8c0(AT)parents>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Successful D-Star contacts have been made on AO-27... see www.ao27.org
73,
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Satoshi Yasuda" <7m3tjz(AT)jk1zrw.ampr.org>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
> Hi Giulio and All,
>> my questions are:
>>
>> what do you think about this experiment?
>> and, is it possible to use this digital protocoll on a satellite
>> (cubesat) ?
>
> Yes, it is possible. Because the RF protocol of D-STAR is 4800bps GMSK
> (with
> BT=0.5) on FM mode.
>
> Satoshi Yasuda 7m3tjz
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:02:48 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16
To: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <97E7C0E75E9E4B25ADB89E75EFF90772(AT)Andrewlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
AO-16 continues to spontaneously shut off. We suspect it is a watchdog timer
that is malfunctioning, and that it is temperature related. These resets
began shortly after the satellite re-entered periods of eclipses after a
long period of full sun. Mark Hammond, N8MH, and I have, at various times,
recommanded the bird on. It will stay on for anywhere from just a few
seconds to a few minutes. We've even experimented with doing this
automatically, with not much success.
The current plan is to wait a little bit until the eclipses start getting
shorter, the overall temperature of the satellite rises some, and see if the
frequency of the resets goes down enough to make some sort of day-to-day
operation feasible again.
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Ops
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)AMSAT.Org>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:59 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-16
> Any updates on the health/status of our old AO-16???
>
> Been quiet lately....
>
> John KB2HSH
>
>
> --
> _______________________________
>
>
> John Marranca, Jr
> PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
> BN Systems, Inc
> Orchard Park, NY
> (716)972-2006
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:22:53 +0200
From: "Simon Brown \(HB9DRV\)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <7E9639C9DE6C4678879CE9E9E729DA17(AT)doubletrouble>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Clive,
I can help but am just back from a 15km 'walk' with the dogs, I need a
'little lie down' first.
I can provide source code in C++.
You can also grab data using Excel of all things !!!
I nothing gets posted I'll make sure my code is on my website for you - mail
me direct if you want.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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From: "Clive Wallis" <clivew(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
>
> I am currently trying to write a program to get the Doppler shift from
> SatExplorer, using the Windows Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) interface.
> I'm having difficulties in understanding and programming the DDE system.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:26:28 -0300
From: "Fabio Antonio Casagrande" <fbighouse(AT)yahoo.com.br>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
To: "'Clive Wallis'" <clivew(AT)zetnet.co.uk>, <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <20080608112629.868BQT800EAjw(AT)mailbox5.ucsd.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi, follow below the URLs, the first url is a example using word/excel and
is a good start point, in my first C++ DDE App I used this example.
"How to use Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) with Word and Excel from Visual C++"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279721/en
"Implementing DDE Using C++ Classes"
http://www.microsoft.com/DOWNLOADS/details.aspx?familyid=22CA6C9D-45C8-4609-
8169-82FE896184D4&displaylang=en
73
Fabio
PU2THN
GG67lc
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)AMSAT.Org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)AMSAT.Org] On
Behalf Of Clive Wallis
Sent: domingo, 8 de junho de 2008 05:47
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
Hi,
I am currently trying to write a program to get the Doppler shift from
SatExplorer, using the Windows Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) interface.
I'm having difficulties in understanding and programming the DDE system.
Does anyone have any source code (or a URL to one), preferably in C,
which would help to point me in the right direction? Alternatively, a
step by step description of the procedure would be very helpful.
In theory it should be a fairly straightforward task, as the information
is defined by three variables -
Application SAT_EXPLORER
Topic SAT_EXPLORER_DATA
Item SAT_EXPLORER_SERVER
Any help would be much appreciated.
73
Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:37:48 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16
To: "John Marranca, Jr" <kb2hsh(AT)amsat.org>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Listened for it yesterday; nothing heard.
Greg KO6TH
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:59:43 -0400
> From: KB2HSH(AT)AMSAT.Org
> To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-16
>
> Any updates on the health/status of our old AO-16???
>
> Been quiet lately....
>
> John KB2HSH
>
>
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> John Marranca, Jr
> PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
> BN Systems, Inc
> Orchard Park, NY
> (716)972-2006
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:02:00 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16
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With appreciation, thanks for the info on 16.
Here's hoping that 16's troubles pass...and that she will once again
be able to live again. If not, then I want to go on the record as
giving my thanks for the MANY fine QSO's (not grid square contacts)
that I have had via AO-16.
I miss coffee in the morning, with my daily N5AFV QSO!
John KB2HSH
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