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Today's Topics:
1. More About the Cubesats (John Marranca, Jr)
2. AO-16 Any updates (Mike Ryan)
3. Britain's Moon shot takes shape (Trevor)
4. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space (i8cvs)
5. Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space (Arthur Feller)
6. Latest TLMEcho program version? (Alan P. Biddle)
7. short notice dx on AO7 (w7lrd(AT)comcast.net)
8. BOD Nominations (Dee)
9. Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat (David Donaldson)
10. Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat (Nate Duehr)
11. Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat (Mark Vandewettering)
12. Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface? (Clive Wallis)
13. Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
(Simon Brown (HB9DRV))
14. CUTE-1.7+APDII camera Earth Picture (Mineo Wakita)
15. Cubesat consideration (Giulio AB2VY)
16. 2008 Amsat Symposium Call for Papers (Robin Cutshaw)
17. Re: Cubesat consideration (Aldo Marchetto)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:51:55 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] More About the Cubesats
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<8edcdb130806081151u7f94ca41hda34030bd0d8428c(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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QUOTE:
"Our access is by examination and not a fee."
Art: DON'T even TRY to feed me that line of crap!
In the 1990's when the ARRL allowed waivers based upon physical need
(a.k.a. handicap), I wen to several VE sessions where applicants
thought it was quite funny that they has their chiropractor write a
"pass" for them to skip the 13 or 20 WPM code test.
My OPINION is this...and if I'm wrong...then I apologize now...but
with Amateur Radio being somewhat of an antique radio "service", the
idea that any educational entity wishes to utilize HAM frequencies
only strengthens our "purpose". The educational entities want to
include us...whether it with us helping to collect TLM, tracking, or
even...yes...God help us...using "OUR" frequencies.
Forgive me if I seem bitter, but that "Spark Forever" antique thinking
belongs on 20 meters.
John KB2HSH
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_______________________________
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PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
BN Systems, Inc
Orchard Park, NY
(716)972-2006
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:41:18 -0400
From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan301(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-16 Any updates
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001001c8c99f$a2bf7ae0$0201a8c0(AT)your6jnhhu0520>
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Hello,
While I'm not around for every pass, it seems AO-16 is largely silent. I
recall some problems reported by N8MH about a month or so ago. Has the
situation changed? Is there any hope for this old bird?
Mike WB1AAT
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:25:31 +0000 (GMT)
From: Trevor <m5aka(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Britain's Moon shot takes shape
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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The BBC website carries an interview with Sir Martin Sweeting G3YJO on why he
wants to launch a UK lunar mission.
It can be seen at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7433074.stm
The audio can be heard at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7441037.stm
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:34:20 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: "Arthur Feller" <afeller(AT)ieee.org>, "John Marranca, Jr"
<KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Feller" <afeller(AT)ieee.org>
To: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
> On 8 Jun 2008, at 07:54, John Marranca, Jr wrote:
>
> > Am I missing something here?
>
> I think so.
>
> Let's take a look at the definition of the amateur service.
>
> "Amateur Service: A radiocommunication service for the purpose of
> self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried
> out
> by amateurs, that is, duly authorised persons interested in radio
> technique
> solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest." [RR 1.56]
>
> Most folks around the world read this as meaning that amateurs are:
>
> [1] "duly authorized," that is, licensed
>
> [2] "persons," that is, individual, human type people (not families,
> clubs, schools, or corporations)
>
> [NOTE: Even club station licenses have a licensed individual, who is
> individually responsible for operation of the club station, serving as
> trustee of the license.]
>
> [3] "with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest," that is,
> only for themselves and without compensation of any kind.
>
> In this world of very high priced access to radio frequencies, our
> amateur service is quite unique. Our access is by examination and not
> a fee. The frequencies are available to us, individual people. The
> frequencies are not available to any kind of group or institution or
> corporation. These frequencies are not available who stand to gain
> from their use beyond their own personal interest. (An experimental
> service is available for commercial interests.)
>
> To me, our frequency allocations require protection from those who
> look them as frequencies of convenience, that is, a way to avoid going
> through the normal licensing and frequency coordination process.
>
> Suggest reading this paper submitted to the IARU Region 1 meeting.
http://www.ok2kkw.com/iaru/ct08_c5_03%20iaru%20c5%20support%20for%20satellit
e%20frequency%20coordination.pdf
>
> It's easy to look to someone with money, like a school, to provide
> amateurs with resources we may not be able to afford readily. In my
> personal opinion, the price may be too high to assure an amateur
> service in years to come.
>
> FWIW, the IARU Panel does not try to judge whether a frequency
> coordination request is legitimate, in terms of the radio
> regulations. Rather, guidance from the IARU to the Panel is that such
> a determination is a matter for administrations, that is, the part of
> each government responsible for complying with obligations undertaken
> in the International Telecommunication Convention. The best the Panel
> can hope to do is try to keep the bands reasonably well organized so
> as to maximize use and minimize interference. Not an easy task.
>
> Just one guy's ramblings. I hope you find them helpful.
>
> 73, art.....
> W4ART Arlington VA
>
> Life is short. Be swift to love! Make haste to be kind!
> - Henri Frederic Amiel, philosopher and writer (1821-1881)
>
>
Hi Art, W4ART
I agree 100% with what you write...........
I was reading the above paper presented by the satellite Advisor ZS6AKV
and agree with him.
I know Hans personally because I meet him during the IARU Region 1
Conference 1999 in Lillehammer when I was the Delegate into the C-5
Commission for ARI i.e. the IARU member Society in Italy.
The main problem here is that the Universities are able to bypass both our
national IARU member societies and our AMSAT national organizations
and they get directly in contact with ESA
If you read here:
http://www.esa.int/esaED/SEM2BPUG3HF_index_0.html
you will see that IARU and AMSAT are not mentioned at all and this
is why I says:
"But once they have the ESA/NASA/JAXA-sponsored GENSO project
running, they will probably even not need our help anymore, but only our
frequencies !!! "
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:43:15 -0400
From: Arthur Feller <afeller(AT)ieee.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9 Cubesats selected for free ESA ride to space
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: "John Marranca, Jr" <KB2HSH(AT)amsat.org>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5FD0960D-E877-4EB6-B4FC-B93848A7EDFC(AT)ieee.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Hi, Domenico!
Thanks for writing.
On 8 Jun 2008, at 16:34, i8cvs wrote:
> The main problem here is that the Universities are able to bypass
> both our
> national IARU member societies and our AMSAT national organizations
> and they get directly in contact with ESA
Actually, any "customer" can do that. Remember, IARU member societies
are private ground and, generally, not regulatory authorities. What
the member societies can do is approach their administrations when
they see problems.
One might ask many administrations, including my own, whether or not
they should review more carefully what their licensees are doing in
space.
> "But once they have the ESA/NASA/JAXA-sponsored GENSO project
> running, they will probably even not need our help anymore, but only
> our
> frequencies !!! "
And, that, in a nutshell, is the point. Some of the University
related operations are legitimately amateur projects. Others, in my
opinion, are not. Those are the ones that trouble me and others.
73, art.....
W4ART Arlington VA
Life is short. Be swift to love! Make haste to be kind!
- Henri Frederic Amiel, philosopher and writer (1821-1881)
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:18:14 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Latest TLMEcho program version?
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BE1BA4F5928945E18D002D4AAE698C3F(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
Is 1.11 the latest version? In Googling around, I found one passing
reference to version 1.2 and a lot of dead links and references to earlier
versions. Getting interested in telemetry again, and want to see what is
out there.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:18:42 +0000
From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] short notice dx on AO7
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org (AMSAT-BB)
Message-ID:
<060820082118.11249.484C4CB2000778D600002BF122147564020B9D04C999(AT)comc
ast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Hello
In about an hour at 2216Z, there will be a mutual footprint between most of
the UK and Seattle Wa. CN87. I will be on 145.958 downlink.
73Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:40:38 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BOD Nominations
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <484C5FE6.9040803(AT)optonline.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
BB AMSAT People...
There is a Bulletin out again this week on the ANS with a call for
nominations to the BOD. (open 'til the 15th)
Now I know opinions are varied and many, however, besides voting for
those that get nominated,
please consider nominations of someone that you know who will give
reliable decisions and bring
your considerations to light. Maybe it is you? Think of following
K3IO, W5DID or N4HY. They stepped up
and offered to steer the ship.
A call for nominations is a time for those to "step up" that have a
sincere interest in the smooth running and
continued envisions of our founding fathers to keep AMSAT as the premier
"HAM" Satellite
Organization that it is. A choice opportunity awaits.
73,
NB2F
NJ AMSAT Co-ordinator
Please, no, not a self advertisement, just trying to get some of you to
put the channel changer down.
Comments, direct to me. Formalities to the BB.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:18:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: "David Donaldson" <wb7dru(AT)usfamily.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
To: "'amsat bb'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001601c8c9e8$4c37cc60$01fea8c0(AT)DAVEBEDROOM>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Do we think that anyone other then Icom will ever support the mode? I'd
love to experiment with it on the birds but until there is competition to
drive the price down will that be possible.
Maybe a GNU project?
Dave
WB7DRU
Minnesota
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of ka3hsw(AT)att.net
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:53 AM
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
Successful D-Star contacts have been made on AO-27... see www.ao27.org
73,
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Satoshi Yasuda" <7m3tjz(AT)jk1zrw.ampr.org>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:47 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
> Hi Giulio and All,
>> my questions are:
>>
>> what do you think about this experiment?
>> and, is it possible to use this digital protocoll on a satellite
>> (cubesat) ?
>
> Yes, it is possible. Because the RF protocol of D-STAR is 4800bps GMSK
> (with
> BT=0.5) on FM mode.
>
> Satoshi Yasuda 7m3tjz
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:49:39 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate(AT)natetech.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A2068AE9-BD5A-42A8-8467-986FF60A9E8A(AT)natetech.com>
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On Jun 8, 2008, at 10:18 PM, David Donaldson wrote:
> Do we think that anyone other then Icom will ever support the mode?
> I'd
> love to experiment with it on the birds but until there is
> competition to
> drive the price down will that be possible.
>
> Maybe a GNU project?
>
> Dave
> WB7DRU
> Minnesota
D-STAR itself is an open protocol. The CODEC is proprietary to DVSI
(AMBE VOCODER) only. The rest of it is possible for anyone to build to.
Satoshi Yasuda (7M3TJZ/AD6GZ) has a working D-STAR interface that
requires nothing more than a radio with a standard "9600 baud packet"
port on the back. (Discriminator audio, and an unfiltered audio input.)
As far as AMBE, DVSI sells chips with the VOCODER embedded in them for
about $20 in single-quantity pricing. So it's possible to buy a $20
chip and not worry about the proprietary bits -- and the rest can be
done in software/firmware. (This type of "use the DVSI chip, write
the rest" model, is what the popular DV-Dongle is based on.)
As to whether or not others will support the mode... who cares? They
don't even have digital products out yet. Until they do, they're now
way behind, technology-wise. I'm not even an Icom fan, and I've just
bought two of their rigs, specifically for D-STAR... and not
regretting it. They're good analog rigs in that mode, no problems
other than I don't like the audio quality of the ID-800H's mic, but
that can be worked on...
Meanwhile... Yaesu/Motorola released yet another analog dual-band non-
full-duplex HT. Yawn.
Kenwood's busy merging with JVC and can't produce their popular dual-
band HT because parts dried up on them before they could do a redesign
on the internal boards. Another Yawn.
Icom paired up with an outside organization (JARL) and worked on rigs
for a completely new mode for hams to play with. Much more
interesting.
It sure would be interesting to get something with an AMBE CODEC (or
convince DVSI to license the CODEC into an SDR) on-orbit... but not
really necessary... since this "stuff" will pass through a transponder
just fine, as evidenced by some folks who've done it.
--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
nate(AT)natetech.com
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:59:03 -0700
From: Mark Vandewettering <kf6kyi(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: D-STAR experiment on Cubesat
To: David Donaldson <wb7dru(AT)usfamily.net>
Cc: 'amsat bb' <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A78B5832-657C-4566-8A65-C1EAEC261990(AT)gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
On Jun 8, 2008, at 9:18 PM, David Donaldson wrote:
> Do we think that anyone other then Icom will ever support the mode?
> I'd
> love to experiment with it on the birds but until there is
> competition to
> drive the price down will that be possible.
>
> Maybe a GNU project?
>
> Dave
> WB7DRU
> Minnesota
Sadly, it's basically impossible to make a software version which
interacts with D-Star because of the fact that the vocoder they chose
to use is encumbered by patents. This is one of the principle
reasons that I can't generate any enthusiasm for D-Star, despite
having a number of interesting capabilities that would be useful for
amateur radio.
The Wikipedia page sums it up pretty well:
D-STAR has been criticized for its use of a patented, closed-source
proprietary voice codec (AMBE). [4] Hams do not have access to the
detailed specification of this codec or the rights to implement it on
their own without buying a licensed product. Hams have a long
tradition of building, improving upon and experimenting with their own
radio designs. The modern digital age equivalent of this would be
designing and/or implementing codecs in software. Critics say the
proprietary nature of AMBE and its availability only in hardware form
(as ICs) discourages innovation. Even critics praise the openness of
the rest of the D-STAR standard which can be implemented freely. An
open-source replacement for the AMBE codec would resolve this issue.
The problem as I see it is that there really aren't a lot of choices
for low bitrate audio coders. LPC is of course a possibility, and is
free from intellectual property encumberments, but it makes everyone
sound like a speak n' spell. The speex codec is open, but doesn't
really work down into the 2400bps that we'd like to have. There
aren't a lot of other choices that I'm aware of. It sure would be
nice to find one though: with all the experimentation with SDR,
digital voice could be a no-cost addition to radios, and a rich
environment for experimentation.
Mark
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:54:07 +0100
From: Clive Wallis <clivew(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <3130303031373237484D0BCF53(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
Simon HB9DRV wrote -
>I can provide source code in C++.
Thanks, I would like to see the source code.
>You can also grab data using Excel of all things !!!
Excel wouldn't help in this case, but it might be interesting to try it.
I have Excel97, would that work?
>I nothing gets posted I'll make sure my code is on my website for you -
>>mail me direct if you want.
I'll e-mail you direct.
Fabio PU2THN wrote -
>Hi, follow below the URLs, the first url is a example using word/excel and
>is a good start point, in my first C++ DDE App I used this example.
>"How to use Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) with Word and Excel from Visual >C++"
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279721/en
>"Implementing DDE Using C++ Classes"
>http://www.microsoft.com/DOWNLOADS/details.aspx?familyid=22CA6C9D-45C8-460>9-
8169-82FE896184D4&displaylang=en
Many thanks Fabio, for these links. I'll have a look.
--
73
Clive G3CWV
Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:33:49 +0200
From: "Simon Brown \(HB9DRV\)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatExplorer ... Programming DDE Interface?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <163A5C9B60CB4F9F913659814439CB39(AT)doubletrouble>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
BTW - we're talking Microsoft Visual Studio C++ code here.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
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From: "Clive Wallis" <clivew(AT)zetnet.co.uk>
>
>>I can provide source code in C++.
>
> Thanks, I would like to see the source code.
>
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:53:50 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CUTE-1.7+APDII camera Earth Picture
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <69C8CA1F19B00Eei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
http://lss.mes.titech.ac.jp/ssp/cute1.7/blog/00_03ver5.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/cut17apd.htm#bottom
(C) Tokyo Institute of Technology
This is the effort of the grand station and the result of
the reports from many satelliter.
Cute-1.7 position at the time of the photography
Latitude : N 28.905 deg
Longitude: E 146.040 deg
Altitude : 620.178002 km
de JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:17:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: Giulio AB2VY <amprorg(AT)yahoo.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cubesat consideration
To: g.shirville(AT)btinternet.com
Cc: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <950586.79404.qm(AT)web26502.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hello Graham,
what you say is very beautiful and my support is of 100%,
but what i know and that brought me to give my opinion is based on
what I see in one Italian universitie (not Turin..)
There isn't any guy who transports outside its daily study commitment the
passion for radio and amateur radio experiments
If building a cubesat means creating a study and a future I am the
first to agree this, but, if it is only for occupate 3 hours on a laboratory
(as unfortunately
I have seen for other kind of satellite object where i was involved ...) for
me.. do not
serve to nothing
What I write comes from what I see here in Italy during my last experience ,
in the rest of the world all things are much better!
Long life to any study on space communication
Giulio AB2VY
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:23:36 -0400
From: "Robin Cutshaw" <aa4rc(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2008 Amsat Symposium Call for Papers
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <007701c8ca2b$a3e4bb60$c81f1fac(AT)silver>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
2008 AMSAT North America Space Symposium
24-26 October 2008, Atlanta, Georgia Call for Papers:
This is the first call for papers for the 2008 AMSAT Space Symposium and
Annual Meeting to be held October 24-26, 2008 in Atlanta, Georgia.
Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations
are invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite program.
An emphasis for this year is an educational outreach to middle and high
school students. Another topic if interest is using amateur satellite
tracking systems to monitor deep space network objects.
In particular, papers on the following topics are solicited:
* Students & Education
* ARISS
* AO-51
* P3E
* Eagle
* Deep Space Network monitoring
* Any additional satellite-related topics.
We request a one-page abstract as soon as possible. Camera ready copy
on paper or in electronic form will be due by September 1, 2008 for
inclusion in the printed symposium proceedings. Papers received after
this date may not be included in the printed proceedings.
Abstracts and papers should be sent to n8fgv(AT)amsat.org
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:33:49 +0200
From: Aldo Marchetto <a.marchetto(AT)ise.cnr.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cubesat consideration
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
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Hello, Graham and Giulio
I'm not involved in any Cubesat activity,
but I saw that for the building of Swisssat
the local IARU society was contacted,
a common working group with the Universities formed,
and a number of young electronic student are taking
their amateur tickets and being introduced in the amateur activity
I personally think this interaction positive.
73 Aldo IZ1ANT
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