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Today's Topics:
1. Re: aprs UIView (Larry Gerhardstein)
2. repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF! (Nate Duehr)
3. Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF! (Alan P. Biddle)
4. Re: CP4 is alive again (Mike Rupprecht)
5. Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF! (Nate Duehr)
6. Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF! (i8cvs)
7. LVB Tracker Installation Instructions (Gould Smith)
8. Namaste Blog (Alan P. Biddle)
9. DO-64 on 145.930 today (Alan P. Biddle)
10. AMSAT-DL DONATIONS (Dave Guimont)
11. TR-851 help? (SV1BSX)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:44:19 -0600
From: "Larry Gerhardstein" <larry(AT)3-cities.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: aprs UIView
To: "Bill Bruno" <billbruno(AT)earthlink.net>, "Amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org"
<amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <003401c8d316$6aa04a10$0300a8c0(AT)hop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Bill, Consider joining an APRS group, such as TinyTrak(AT)yahoogroups.com.
73, Larry W7IN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Gerhardstein" <larry(AT)3-cities.com>
To: "Bill Bruno" <billbruno(AT)earthlink.net>; "Amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org"
<amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: aprs UIView
> The process to get a uiview registration number is on
> http://www.ui-view.org/.
>
> Larry W7IN
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Gerhardstein" <larry(AT)3-cities.com>
> To: "Bill Bruno" <billbruno(AT)earthlink.net>; "Amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org"
> <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:04 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: aprs UIView
>
>
>> Bill, It's under Help->Registration.
>>
>> Larry W7IN
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Bruno" <billbruno(AT)earthlink.net>
>> To: "Amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:36 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] aprs UIView
>>
>>
>>> I'm trying to switch from winaprs to UIView32. I cannot find a way
>>> to
>>> register it. Been looking for two days now. Can someone point me in
>>> the
>>> right direction.
>>> Bill KB2RC
>>>
>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:48:28 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate(AT)natetech.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF!
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <170B744F-00BB-466D-8A05-2FEA772B94E9(AT)natetech.com>
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Wow. Mostly by EME...
I thought this group would find this amazing...
==> GERMAN HAM CLAIMS FIRST DXCC ON 432 MHZ
The world of Amateur Radio DXing has passed a new milestone: On Friday,
June 6, Jan Bruinier, DL9KR, of Niedernhausen, Germany, worked his 100th
country on 432 MHz (70 cm) via moonbounce (EME) and CW.
Samek Zdenek, OK1DFC, and Hofbauer Zdenek, OK3RM, were getting ready to
go on an EME DXpedition to Macedonia. Before they left, Samek asked
Bruinier to help test out the equipment; Bruinier gave him a beacon,
aiming a signal off the moon. According to VHF guru and conductor of
QST's "World Above 50 MHz" column Gene Zimmerman, W3ZZ, this is done by
transmitting a series of CW dashes and then stopping to listen for the
signal to return a little more than a second later. The moon averages
384,000 km from the Earth; radio waves travel at ~300,000 km/sec.
After one of these transmissions, Bruinier was excited to hear Samek
appear on frequency with a 549 signal. Thus, after an exchange of calls
and reports, Bruinier's 100th country on 432 MHz was in the log. Once
his QSL cards are confirmed in the near future, he will become DXCC #1
on 70 cm.
Bruinier's 70 cm EME operations began in 1977. He had followed the
exploits of the early EME pioneers in QST, operators like KH6UK, W4HHK,
W3GKP and W1FZJ who was conductor of the "World Above 50 Mc" during much
of the 1960s. Jan and his family moved to a semirural location in
Germany in 1976 where he could put up decent VHF antennas. Working
initially on his own, he built an array of 16 ten-element quagis
(antennas with single quad loop driven elements and reflectors and 8
Yagi directors) following the design described in QST by Wayne Overbeck,
K6YNB (now N6NB). After a few false starts with other tubes, he obtained
an Eimac 8938 and built a near-legal limit amplifier. The station
exciter was a set of Drake twins as an IF strip using homebrew
transverters with an increasingly sensitive group of GaAsFET
preamplifiers, always working at the state-of-the-art.
As time progressed, Bruinier built a bigger amplifier capable of running
1500 W continuously to deal with the high duty cycle found in EME
operation -- long, slow CW with two minute transmissions at a time --
and receiver systems that yielded noise temperatures of 60 kelvins that
could detect 7 dB of noise when he pointed his array into the ground. He
eventually transitioned from the quagis to an array of DL6WU design
Yagis fed with 1-5/8 inch Heliax, currently having a gain of 28.4 dBd.
For comparison, this is slightly more gain than the 28 foot Kennedy
parabolic dish has at 432 MHz.
According to Zimmerman, the range of contacts covered by the 70 cm band
is less than 1000 km; even under the most enhanced conditions, it is
less than double that. "To work the 100 entities needed for DXCC, EME
communications are essential. EME is the most demanding form of
operation there is in Amateur Radio," he said. "Every single aspect of
the station must be optimized: The equipment, the antennas, the feed
lines and most particularly, the talent of the operator. Even 1 dB may
make the difference between a contact and no contact. Bruinier's
achievement was accomplished the old fashioned way -- by dint of hard
work, excellent equipment, big antennas and many, many hours on the air
looking for new countries and not missing many, if any, DXpeditions to
the many countries where there is no 432 MHz EME activity."
Bruinier told Zimmerman that many people going to many countries on all
continents made this award possible: The Five Bells Group, the Yota Sawe
Group, Michale Kohla, DL1YMK, and Monica; Bernd Mischlewski, DF2ZC; Mark
De Munck, ON5FF (now EA8FF); Bernhard Dobler, DJ5MN; Mart Sakalov,
SM0ERR; Dimitris Vittorakis, SV1BTR; Gudmund Wannberg, SM2BYA; Frank
Hobelmann, DL8YHR; Joachim Werner, DL9MS, and Allen Katz, K2UYH, among
others, as well as groups from Russia, Spain, France and Denmark.
If you would like to read more details about Bruinier's career as an
EMEer, please look for his story in his own words in the "World Above 50
MHz" column in the September 2008 issue of QST.
--
Nate Duehr
nate(AT)natetech.com
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:26:43 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF!
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <8A2A9390163542219D434865A92B7D17(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A remarkable achievement using OSCAR Zero! And done without control
stations, either. Who would have thought it possible. <grin>!
Alan
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:35:46 +0200
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail(AT)mike-rupprecht.de>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CP4 is alive again
To: "'Bryan Klofas'" <bklofas(AT)calpoly.edu>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001f01c8d31d$9a039ee0$ce0adca0$(AT)de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Bryan,
last pass over europe - could decode all 3 beacons
2008-06-20 21:07 UTC: [26 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 04 43
21 > 4F 4D 4D 20 42 C0
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l? (AT)(AT)a.?.COMM B?
______________________________________________________________________________
__
2008-06-20 21:07 UTC: [120 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 01 57
21 > 91 0D 2A 25 CD 23 30 02 57 98 65 6D DB DC C1 01 00 02 80 B4
41 > 71 6E C1 BA 03 01 08 A7 29 B7 C3 BD 8F 02 01 03 8D 50 F5 EA
61 > C5 8C 00 00 02 74 97 F7 F9 DB DC 00 05 B9 AA B8 B8 A0 11 10
81 > 0A 03 0A 01 7E 90 8E BA BA CB C7 6B F2 00 00 B4 A5 C3 C7 64
101 > F3 4E FF DA A4 03 01 02 B0 26 26 08 69 01 25 2B 2A 5C 2A C0
121 >
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l?
(AT)(AT)a.?.W?.*%?#0.W?em???...??qn??...?)????...?P????...t?????..????
......~??????k?..????d?N???...?&&.i.%+*\*?
______________________________________________________________________________
__
2008-06-20 21:12 UTC: [26 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 04 43
21 > 4F 4D 4D 20 41 C0
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l? (AT)(AT)a.?.COMM A?
______________________________________________________________________________
__
2008-06-20 21:12 UTC: [120 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 01 5A
21 > 91 0D 30 24 AD 01 05 02 4E 94 39 41 DB DC BF 05 00 02 81 B8
41 > 8D 8A C2 BC 4F 40 08 A4 22 2F 31 BE CA 07 05 02 91 56 A5 97
61 > C5 A5 00 00 02 75 A3 F6 F9 DB DC 00 04 B8 9D B8 B9 B7 11 0E
81 > 0C 0B 04 01 7F 8F 8B BA BA CB C7 6B F3 FF FF B4 A5 CB C7 6C
101 > F3 F6 FF DD A4 03 01 02 B0 66 26 08 5C 01 29 28 28 5C 39 C0
121 >
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l?
(AT)(AT)a.?.Z?.0$?...N?9A???...??????O(AT).?"/1??...?V????...u?????..?????....
..??????k???????l?????...?f&.\.)((\9?
______________________________________________________________________________
__
2008-06-20 21:17 UTC: [26 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 04 43
21 > 4F 4D 4D 20 42 C0
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l? (AT)(AT)a.?.COMM B?
______________________________________________________________________________
__
2008-06-20 21:17 UTC: [120 Bytes KISS Frame (without CRC)]
1 > C0 00 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 E0 9C 6C 86 A0 40 40 61 03 F0 01 55
21 > 91 0D 26 26 8D 01 07 03 5F 9A ED FE DB DC 8E 03 00 02 75 BA
41 > D8 D4 C2 8A 00 00 08 9B 31 AA B7 BD 8F 02 02 03 82 56 E3 D8
61 > C5 8B 00 00 03 6C 93 FF FF DB DC 00 05 B9 AA B8 B9 A2 10 10
81 > 0B 09 04 01 79 8C 8D BA BA CB C7 6B F4 00 00 B4 A5 C3 C7 66
101 > F5 AC FF D8 A4 03 01 02 B0 66 26 08 5C 01 26 2C 2B 5C 3C C0
121 >
?.?l? (AT)(AT)??l?
(AT)(AT)a.?.U?.&&?..._??????...u?????...?1????...?V????...l?????..?????......y
??????k?..????f?????...?f&.\.&,+\<?
73, Mike
DK3WN
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:15:05 -0600
From: Nate Duehr <nate(AT)natetech.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF!
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <AC94DF3E-9130-477D-8AA4-F06BF2F9E76B(AT)natetech.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:48 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:
> Wow. Mostly by EME...
>
> I thought this group would find this amazing...
>
> ==> GERMAN HAM CLAIMS FIRST DXCC ON 432 MHZ
Follow-up note: This is from the latest ARRL Letter. I reposted here
because of the use of OSCAR 0, but forgot to properly give credit to
the source.
--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
nate(AT)natetech.com
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:39:15 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF!
To: "Nate Duehr" <nate(AT)natetech.com>, "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002901c8d347$ffa98e60$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Nate, WY0X
In addition to their amazing EME success they don't need to be "Bad Guys"
because they don't need to put in orbit the moon !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Duehr" <nate(AT)natetech.com>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] repost from ARRL letter - DXCC on UHF!
> Wow. Mostly by EME...
>
> I thought this group would find this amazing...
>
> ==> GERMAN HAM CLAIMS FIRST DXCC ON 432 MHZ
>
> The world of Amateur Radio DXing has passed a new milestone: On Friday,
> June 6, Jan Bruinier, DL9KR, of Niedernhausen, Germany, worked his 100th
> country on 432 MHz (70 cm) via moonbounce (EME) and CW.
>
> Samek Zdenek, OK1DFC, and Hofbauer Zdenek, OK3RM, were getting ready to
> go on an EME DXpedition to Macedonia. Before they left, Samek asked
> Bruinier to help test out the equipment; Bruinier gave him a beacon,
> aiming a signal off the moon. According to VHF guru and conductor of
> QST's "World Above 50 MHz" column Gene Zimmerman, W3ZZ, this is done by
> transmitting a series of CW dashes and then stopping to listen for the
> signal to return a little more than a second later. The moon averages
> 384,000 km from the Earth; radio waves travel at ~300,000 km/sec.
>
> After one of these transmissions, Bruinier was excited to hear Samek
> appear on frequency with a 549 signal. Thus, after an exchange of calls
> and reports, Bruinier's 100th country on 432 MHz was in the log. Once
> his QSL cards are confirmed in the near future, he will become DXCC #1
> on 70 cm.
>
> Bruinier's 70 cm EME operations began in 1977. He had followed the
> exploits of the early EME pioneers in QST, operators like KH6UK, W4HHK,
> W3GKP and W1FZJ who was conductor of the "World Above 50 Mc" during much
> of the 1960s. Jan and his family moved to a semirural location in
> Germany in 1976 where he could put up decent VHF antennas. Working
> initially on his own, he built an array of 16 ten-element quagis
> (antennas with single quad loop driven elements and reflectors and 8
> Yagi directors) following the design described in QST by Wayne Overbeck,
> K6YNB (now N6NB). After a few false starts with other tubes, he obtained
> an Eimac 8938 and built a near-legal limit amplifier. The station
> exciter was a set of Drake twins as an IF strip using homebrew
> transverters with an increasingly sensitive group of GaAsFET
> preamplifiers, always working at the state-of-the-art.
>
> As time progressed, Bruinier built a bigger amplifier capable of running
> 1500 W continuously to deal with the high duty cycle found in EME
> operation -- long, slow CW with two minute transmissions at a time --
> and receiver systems that yielded noise temperatures of 60 kelvins that
> could detect 7 dB of noise when he pointed his array into the ground. He
> eventually transitioned from the quagis to an array of DL6WU design
> Yagis fed with 1-5/8 inch Heliax, currently having a gain of 28.4 dBd.
> For comparison, this is slightly more gain than the 28 foot Kennedy
> parabolic dish has at 432 MHz.
>
> According to Zimmerman, the range of contacts covered by the 70 cm band
> is less than 1000 km; even under the most enhanced conditions, it is
> less than double that. "To work the 100 entities needed for DXCC, EME
> communications are essential. EME is the most demanding form of
> operation there is in Amateur Radio," he said. "Every single aspect of
> the station must be optimized: The equipment, the antennas, the feed
> lines and most particularly, the talent of the operator. Even 1 dB may
> make the difference between a contact and no contact. Bruinier's
> achievement was accomplished the old fashioned way -- by dint of hard
> work, excellent equipment, big antennas and many, many hours on the air
> looking for new countries and not missing many, if any, DXpeditions to
> the many countries where there is no 432 MHz EME activity."
>
> Bruinier told Zimmerman that many people going to many countries on all
> continents made this award possible: The Five Bells Group, the Yota Sawe
> Group, Michale Kohla, DL1YMK, and Monica; Bernd Mischlewski, DF2ZC; Mark
> De Munck, ON5FF (now EA8FF); Bernhard Dobler, DJ5MN; Mart Sakalov,
> SM0ERR; Dimitris Vittorakis, SV1BTR; Gudmund Wannberg, SM2BYA; Frank
> Hobelmann, DL8YHR; Joachim Werner, DL9MS, and Allen Katz, K2UYH, among
> others, as well as groups from Russia, Spain, France and Denmark.
>
> If you would like to read more details about Bruinier's career as an
> EMEer, please look for his story in his own words in the "World Above 50
> MHz" column in the September 2008 issue of QST.
> --
> Nate Duehr
> nate(AT)natetech.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:19:44 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker Installation Instructions
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <7A17560A1F604C8391A1E1E9F9D41071(AT)GouldMainPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I have received a few questions about installing the LVB Tracker this week.
The installation and setup instructions can be found at the LVBTracker.com
web site.
This information should have been passed along to the people that got the unit
at Dayton or from the AMSAT office, but apparently was not. This will be
corrected.
The instructions on the web site should be straight forward, but if you have
any questions send me an email and we will work it out.
The first thing you need to do is to install the FTDI driver for your
operating system, and then talk with the LVBTracker unit via a serial port and
a terminal program. You must be able to do this before you can proceed.
Sometimes the driver does not install correctly.
Check via Control Panel, System, Device Manager (for Windows) that the driver
is indeed installed correctly.
Under Ports, a serial port should be assigned (without a warning) as a
USB serial port.
73,
Gould, WA4SXM
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:01:48 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Namaste Blog
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EA9BE38D5A3648AA882DCD8AB2151E0D(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Morning,
There is always a hunger for knowing what is going on at AMSAT. Probably
semi-old news, but they have added a Namaste Ground Station link to the
Quick Access Project Links on WWW.AMSAT.ORG Of considerable interest to me
is if you go there you will find an RSS feed for your reader. Skimming
through a few posts brought up some very interesting technical reports.
Another great addition to the Wiki keeping people informed!
Alan
WA4SCA
-----------------------------------
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
from such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:40:27 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] DO-64 on 145.930 today
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EB9F3D69D67D4449A8F89D76573DCA62(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Morning,
This morning, while listening for DO-64, I was surprised to hear it on
145.930 MHz. I always check both frequencies, but this is a first, at least
for me. Signal was good, with about 250 blocks downloaded. There were 2-3
dropouts of the signal, but after a few seconds it came back.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:12:07 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-DL DONATIONS
To: db2os(AT)amsat.org
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080621181213.MYPX27427.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Hi Peter,
Can you give us the url for donations to AMST-DL...in English..
A lot of us out here who would be willing to help with P3E....
Tnx...
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:51:50 +0300
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TR-851 help?
To: <sv-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <001a01c8d3cf$e1e3e8c0$0b09a8c0(AT)zeus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1253"
Hi all and sorry for "off topics"
has anyone experience with Kenwood TR-851E ?
I have a few questions, the Owner manual did not help me.
"OFF list" your Emails please .
73, Mak SV1BSX
Email: sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr
URL : http://sv1bsx.50webs.com
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