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Today's Topics:
1. Lost Email or delayed email (Michael Baker)
2. Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third Try.
(Michael Baker)
3. Re: Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third Try.
(Roger Kolakowski)
4. ANS-195 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb)
5. Re: Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third Try.
(Leonard Revelle)
6. VO-52 polarity (John Wilcox / NS1Z)
7. Field Day Submissions Due (Bruce)
8. Re: VO-52 polarity (Alan P. Biddle)
9. 2' PLUG n PLAY DISH PACKAGES (K5GNA(AT)aol.com)
10. Icom R20 for receiving SSB downlink from AO16 (Allen Vinegar)
11. Re: Icom R20 for receiving SSB downlink from AO16
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:16:47 -0700
From: "Michael Baker" <k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lost Email or delayed email
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <02cc01c8e45c$36489630$6501a8c0(AT)zorro>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
For some reason I have made two posts to this reflector and have not had
them show up as a mailing from the reflector. Anyone got any ideas?
I am getting other posts to the reflector.
Michael Baker K7DD
k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:29:33 -0700
From: "Michael Baker" <k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third
Try.
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <02cd01c8e45d$fe9f66d0$6501a8c0(AT)zorro>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
WOW!
Nice to have such a knowledge base to work with!
I want to thank all of you who responded and gave me info and links
to some inexpensive goodies to get the rotors under computer control.
For anyone else who is lurking in the wings and reading the mail,
here is what I got for a short list and links where applicable.
FOD track boards. Boards available from Far Circuits,
http://www.farcircuits.net
AMSAT tracker. AMSAT carries the LVB tracker:
http://wa4sxm.googlepages.com/home
It uses the same protocol, can be configured for either USB or serial port,
and goes assembled for around $200, and can be had in various versions of
completion for less.
ARRL Sat Tracker 688 boards.
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/ariss-kits/
This is probable for the price it is looking like about the most
inexpensive solution.
Uni_Trac.
http://www.etelectronics.com/html/uni_trac.html
Nice but NOT inexpensive.
Primetec Primesat Controler.
http://www.primetec.pt/products.php?sec=2&cat=3&prod=12&lang=en
Very nice but break out the bucks cause it ain't cheep!
So, there you have it.
Still modeling the current antennas (Old Cushcraft Oscar twins) and
looking them over to see what needs servicing or parts and weighing if they
get used or replaced with something homebrew (and better).
Hopefully, when it cools down a bit in the fall here in Phoenix I
can get up on the roof and put this mess together and be ready for what ever
AMSAT puts into space. :>)
Again, to all that responded, a big THANK YOU!
Best 72,73,
Michael Baker K7DD
k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:15:26 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <rogerkola(AT)aol.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third
Try.
To: "Michael Baker" <k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <005901c8e47d$8e609b80$0200a8c0(AT)Tanguray>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Michael...you have gotten through all 3 times...maybe look in your SPAM
folder?
Roger
WA1KAT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Baker" <k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:29 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third Try.
> WOW!
>
> Nice to have such a knowledge base to work with!
>
> I want to thank all of you who responded and gave me info and links
> to some inexpensive goodies to get the rotors under computer control.
>
> For anyone else who is lurking in the wings and reading the mail,
> here is what I got for a short list and links where applicable.
>
> FOD track boards. Boards available from Far Circuits,
> http://www.farcircuits.net
>
> AMSAT tracker. AMSAT carries the LVB tracker:
>
> http://wa4sxm.googlepages.com/home
>
> It uses the same protocol, can be configured for either USB or serial
port,
> and goes assembled for around $200, and can be had in various versions of
> completion for less.
>
> ARRL Sat Tracker 688 boards.
> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/ariss-kits/
> This is probable for the price it is looking like about the most
> inexpensive solution.
>
> Uni_Trac.
> http://www.etelectronics.com/html/uni_trac.html
>
> Nice but NOT inexpensive.
>
> Primetec Primesat Controler.
> http://www.primetec.pt/products.php?sec=2&cat=3&prod=12&lang=en
>
> Very nice but break out the bucks cause it ain't cheep!
>
> So, there you have it.
>
> Still modeling the current antennas (Old Cushcraft Oscar twins) and
> looking them over to see what needs servicing or parts and weighing if
they
> get used or replaced with something homebrew (and better).
> Hopefully, when it cools down a bit in the fall here in Phoenix I
> can get up on the roof and put this mess together and be ready for what
ever
> AMSAT puts into space. :>)
>
> Again, to all that responded, a big THANK YOU!
>
> Best 72,73,
>
>
>
> Michael Baker K7DD
> k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:53:29 -0400
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-195 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-195
**************************************************************
*** 2008 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting ***
*** October 24-26 in Atlanta, Georgia ***
**************************************************************
ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America,
The
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a
worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital
Amateur Radio satellites.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor(AT)amsat.org
In this edition:
* 2008 AMSAT North America Space Symposium
* AO-51 Operations Update
* KiwiSAT Progress Report
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
* ARISS Status - 07 July 2008
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-195.01
2008 AMSAT North America Space Symposium
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 195.01
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 13, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.01
2008 AMSAT North America Space Symposium
24-26 October 2008, Atlanta, Georgia Call for Papers:
This is the call for papers for the 2008 AMSAT Space
Symposium and Annual Meeting to be held October 24-26, 2008
in Atlanta, Georgia.
Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster
presentations are invited on any topic of interest to the
amateur satellite program. An emphasis for this year is an
educational outreach to middle and high school students.
Another topic if interest is using amateur satellite
tracking systems to monitor deep space network objects.
In particular, papers on the following topics are solicited:
+ Students & Education
+ ARISS
+ AO-51
+ P3E
+ Eagle
+ Deep Space Network monitoring
+ Any additional satellite-related topics.
We request a one-page abstract as soon as possible. Camera
ready copy on paper or in electronic form will be due by
September 1, 2008 for inclusion in the printed symposium
proceedings. Papers received after this date may not be
included in the printed proceedings.
Abstracts and papers should be sent to n8fgv(AT)amsat.org
[ANS thanks Robin, AA4RC and the 2008 Symposium Committee
for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-195.02
AO-51 Operations Update
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 195.02
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 13, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.02
Gould, WA4SXM, AO-51 command station noted this week that the
transmitter power on AO-51 has been down due to the length of
eclipse that peaked about 2 weeks ago. AO-51 eclipse periods
will continue to get shorter until September when we will see
a no eclipse period for about 8 months.
Gould has been testing the charge/discharge rate. If any of
the transmitters are off or have changed he reminds users to
the status message on the digital downlink.
At present AO-51 is operating TXA at 430 mW (digital downlink)
and TXB at 470 mW (analog downlink). During the peak of the
eclipse periods both transmitters were operating in the 340 mW
range.
[ANS thanks Gould, WA4SXM for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-195.03
KiwiSAT Progress Report
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 195.03
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 13, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.03
Progress report - June 2008
by Fred Kennedy ZL1BYP ? KiwiSAT Project Leader
Just before the Christmas period a very successful funding appeal was launched
on the <amsat-bb> by AMSAT-ZL President ? Terry
(ZL3QL) and I note with pleasure
that the build fund swelled to 30% of the $10k
target in a very short time. This
is a brilliant response that boosts not only the
financial resource but also the
morale of the team! Believe me, building a bird is "mega" hard work (ask those
that have done it before) and support from the
eventual benefactors is very well
received. The feeling that it?s all worth while is restored ? at least for a
while!
In addition to the actual cash donations we also have a number individuals
offering to sponsor a specific item ? as did we (AMSAT-ZL) in the pre launch
build-up for Phase 3D. Doing that provides a
?personal input? to the project and
we?re looking into suitable identifiable sub-units.
In the last Status Report mention was made of the Solar Cell problems faced by
the team. VERY recent events have, however, meant that this is no longer an
impediment to progress!
A very thorough update of each of the satellite's
subsystems is available at the
AMSAT-ZL website
http://www.kiwisat.org.nz/status.html
[ANS thanks Fred, Zl1BYP, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-195.04
Satellite Shorts From All Over
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 195.04
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 13, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.04
+ Reminder! Sunday is/was your last chance to e-mail your satellite
operating logs from Field Day to Bruce, KK5DO. You may send
them to kk5do(AT)amsat.org or kk5do(AT)arrl.net. The AMSAT Field Day
rules can be found at: http://www.amsatnet.com/2008fd.pdf or
http://www.amsatnet.com/2008fd.doc. Your entry is due by
11:59 P.M. CDT, Monday, July 14, 2008.
+ Peter, DB2OS uploaded full-length videos about the integration
and launch of OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 at:
http://en.sevenload.com/search/amsat/videos
There is also a video from the SDX demonstration from HamRadio 2008
in Friedrichshafen.
+ Robert, W6RQR is looking for other satellite operators in New Mexico
to help with a Satellite Forum at the Albuquerque Hamfest August 15
& 16. Contact Robert via rlasso (at)zianet.com if you can help.
+ AMSAT-UK will be holding their 23rd International Space Colloquium
at the University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 25th
until Sunday 27th July. See: http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium/
for the latest information.
[ANS thanks everyone for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-195.05
ARISS Status - 07 July 2008
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 195.05
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 13, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-195.05
1. Upcoming School Contacts
An Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact has been
scheduled with the Department of Astronomy &
Space Sciences (DASS) at the Kuwait
Science Club in Safat, Kuwait on Monday, July 14 at 17:05 UTC. Telebridge
station WH6PN in Hawaii will assist with the contact. DASS aims to spread
scientific awareness in the fields of astronomy and space sciences by actively
engaging the public in exploring the cosmos. This educational activity will
educate young people about space stations, satellites and ham radio. A
national
competition will be announced through the Ministry of Education for all
schools
in Kuwait. The competition will encourage students to do research in space
science. Four students will be selected from 3 levels (elementary, middle,
high
school) to ask questions of the astronaut. Extensive media coverage is
expected
from at least 3 television stations, several newspapers, magazines and radio
stations.
2. Simulated Contacts Successful
Two simulated Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS)
contacts
were held on Thursday, July 3. The training sessions were terrestrial-based
amateur radio contacts using ARISS-equivalent
equipment. Frank De Winne, ON1DWN,
participated in the first contact with ESC (Euro Space Camp) in Belgium. The
second contact took place between the Ottawa South United Soccer Club in
Canada
and astronaut Bob Thirsk, W5/VA3CSA. There was IRLP coverage of both
contacts.
3. Successful ARISS Contact with Texan Scouts
On Friday, July 4, Round Rock Texas Scout Pack #304 and Blackland Prairie
Elementary School in Round Rock, Texas participated in a successful Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contact. Ten Scouts asked
nearly twenty questions of Greg Chamitoff, KD5PKZ, before an audience of 100.
Two broadcast television stations and one local cable news outlet reported on
the event. To view the Fox video, see:
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6915557&version=1
&
locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1
News 8 Austin also ran an article:
http://www.news8austin.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=213480
[ANS thanks Carol, KB3LKI, for the above information]
/EX
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's
Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project
Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits. Application forms are
available from the AMSAT Office.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:58:10 -0500
From: Leonard Revelle <n9ij(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Rotor Control interface help follow up. Third
Try.
To: "Michael Baker" <k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <9290B912-ED1D-4428-BE73-354686BAF273(AT)comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Mike,
I built one of the first ARRL education units and it works well. I did
much the same research and this was the best bang for the buck.
That said, you should also consider what software you will be using as
each package has it's list of compatible controllers. For example, the
ARRL unit works with SatPC32 and Nova but I've not been able to get it
working with Orbitron and others.
Len Revelle N9IJ
n9ij(AT)comcast.net
On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Michael Baker wrote:
> WOW!
>
> Nice to have such a knowledge base to work with!
>
> I want to thank all of you who responded and gave me info and links
> to some inexpensive goodies to get the rotors under computer control.
>
> For anyone else who is lurking in the wings and reading the mail,
> here is what I got for a short list and links where applicable.
>
> FOD track boards. Boards available from Far Circuits,
> http://www.farcircuits.net
>
> AMSAT tracker. AMSAT carries the LVB tracker:
>
> http://wa4sxm.googlepages.com/home
>
> It uses the same protocol, can be configured for either USB or
> serial port,
> and goes assembled for around $200, and can be had in various
> versions of
> completion for less.
>
> ARRL Sat Tracker 688 boards.
> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/ariss-kits/
> This is probable for the price it is looking like about the most
> inexpensive solution.
>
> Uni_Trac.
> http://www.etelectronics.com/html/uni_trac.html
>
> Nice but NOT inexpensive.
>
> Primetec Primesat Controler.
> http://www.primetec.pt/products.php?sec=2&cat=3&prod=12&lang=en
>
> Very nice but break out the bucks cause it ain't cheep!
>
> So, there you have it.
>
> Still modeling the current antennas (Old Cushcraft Oscar twins) and
> looking them over to see what needs servicing or parts and weighing
> if they
> get used or replaced with something homebrew (and better).
> Hopefully, when it cools down a bit in the fall here in Phoenix I
> can get up on the roof and put this mess together and be ready for
> what ever
> AMSAT puts into space. :>)
>
> Again, to all that responded, a big THANK YOU!
>
> Best 72,73,
>
>
>
> Michael Baker K7DD
> k7ddmjb(AT)qwest.net
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:56:52 -0000
From: "John Wilcox / NS1Z" <ns1z(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52 polarity
To: "Amsat-Bb" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <DPEJJPCBCJGOODDNIMBHEEAHGBAA.ns1z(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I am sure this information has been seen here previously but I had no need
for it until now. Picked up circular polarized ants and wondering which pol
VO-52 is or does it continuously change?
John Wilcox NS1Z
EL99bf
Silver Springs, FL
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:19:02 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do(AT)arrl.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Submissions Due
To: "amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4879C886.6050301(AT)arrl.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The deadline for submitting your field day results for AMSAT Field Day
is Monday, July 14, 2008 at 11:59PM CDT. Don't miss your opportunity to
have your field day site listed and scored. email to me and I would send
an email to both of my addresses to make sure that it arrives. kk5do at
both arrl.net and amsat.org
73...bruce
--
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on SkyScanner Satellite Radio Network on Galaxy-
25 (AT)97? West,
Transponder 23 (12115 Vert), Symbol Rate: 22425, APID: 1794 (DVB Free To Air)
Also streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:08:59 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 polarity
To: "'Amsat-Bb'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CA84921432064F03AA3F9AD4BD5F28A3(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
John,
According to the weekly ANS report:
VO-52
V: LHCP
U: RHCP
That having been said, it is always desirable to be able to switch the
polarization. While the best signal, often by a wide margin, is found with
the published values, there are often times where with geometries far off
axis that the opposite polarization is significantly better. I have found
this over a wide range of satellites.
Alan
WA4SCA
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:48:27 EDT
From: K5GNA(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2' PLUG n PLAY DISH PACKAGES
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <be1.3ac36282.35ab8bdb(AT)aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi All,
I obtained a small quantity of new 2' rectangular grid dishes similar to
what I had previously had for my 2' Plug N play 2.4 GHz downconverter
packages.
These packages include my AIDC 3731 downconverter, 2' rectangular dish with
mounting hardware, 6' and 25' F cables, 6 dB attenuator, F to BNC adapter and
wall wart power supply and inserter.
The 2' dish claims 19 dBi gain (over the 12 dBi for the corner reflector)
and a bit narrower beamwidth than the corner reflector. Not much wind
resistance
and will not overload your El - Az positioner.
Anyone who wants a 2' Plug n Play downconverter package, please contact me
off list or go to my web page to contact me -- the 2' dish will not be seen
on
my web page for now.
_www.k5gna.com_ (http://www.k5gna.com)
PRICES:
19 dBi 2' Dish Plug N Play package - $165.00 plus $20 shipping in the 48 US
states.
12 dBi Corner Reflector Plug N Play package - $155.00 plus $14 shipping in
the 48 US states.
TNX & 73
Bob
K5GNA
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:37:37 -0400
From: "Allen Vinegar" <tokens(AT)myranch.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom R20 for receiving SSB downlink from AO16
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000a01c8e50f$250b3220$6401a8c0(AT)allen>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Does anyone have experience with using the R20 for AO16 SSB downlink
reception? What about reception of other satellites?
Thank you.
73, Al, W8KHP
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:03:00 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom R20 for receiving SSB downlink from AO16
To: "Allen Vinegar" <tokens(AT)myranch.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <8DD08C0EFFEB46FC8A608D742BB676E5(AT)Andrewlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
While I haven't used the R-20, I just wanted to remind everyone that AO-16
remains off-line. I started it up several times on a pass Friday afternoon
and it continued to reset almost immediately.
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen Vinegar" <tokens(AT)myranch.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:37 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom R20 for receiving SSB downlink from AO16
> Does anyone have experience with using the R20 for AO16 SSB downlink
> reception? What about reception of other satellites?
> Thank you.
>
> 73, Al, W8KHP
> _______________________________________________
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