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Today's Topics:
1. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (Dave Guimont)
2. 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder (DeYoung James)
3. Farnborough International Airshow (Howard Long)
4. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (Ronald Nutter)
5. FS: Icom IC-910H (incl 23cm unit) (Stefan Wagener)
6. Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder (AC7YY - Kim)
7. HEO Launch Costs (John B. Stephensen)
8. Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder (Andrew Glasbrenner)
9. Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder (Edward Cole)
10. Re: APRS Interfaces (Clint Bradford)
11. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (Rick Hambly (W2GPS))
12. Re: APRS Interfaces (Bob Bruninga )
13. Re: HEO Launch Costs (Dave Guimont)
14. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (Dave Guimont)
15. Call for Papers--2008 ARRL/TAPR Digital Communications
Conference (Ford, Steve, WB8IMY)
16. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (David Goncalves)
17. Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!! (David Smith)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:12:50 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080714191252.ECXQ8951.cdptpa-omta01.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>It seems obvious now that AMSAT-NA projects are collapsing NAMASTE
>is dead and EAGLE PROBABLY WILL BE HALTED TOO?????
>SEE BELOW THE FULL EXCHANGE AND PLEASE READ THE THREADS ON:
>http://amsat.org/pipermail/namaste-dev/2008-July/thread.html
>
>Here is an excerpt moving around the "Super duper" AMSAT-NA
>president on the NAMSATE reflector
>
>AMSAT-NA is on a crashing course i doubt this group will survive up
>to the end of 2008! Sad news but could be under a new leadership things
>can still have some chance of success!
>P.S. I just hope i am dead wrong here?
Luc, tnx fer ur research and publication...Many amateur satellite
operators in the world are of the same opinion...AMSAT-NA is beating
a dead horse...
Absence of HEO, necessitates confirmation of those facts, NOW on 20
meters! Just the way we traded information for the early satellites.
I ran one of the early 20 meter satellite nets, hopefully a P3E
launch will not require 20 meters to globally communicate again...
COMMUNICATION is the name of the game....nearly impossible now....if
you want grid squares use your cell phone!!
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: DeYoung James <deyoung_james(AT)yahoo.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: Jim DeYoung <kg4qwc(AT)arrl.net>
Message-ID: <917413.72995.qm(AT)web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Greetings,
I am wondering if anyone on the BB knows if there are any 9600-bps soundcard-
based AX.25 ASCII decoding programs out in the www? If so what is the web
address for it? I know 9600-bps is possible with modern soundcards as I have
a program from COAA that decodes it for non-HAM related data. I am using my
IC-910H data socket port output with it set to 9600 in the settings. I am
interested in using the 9600-bps program for capturing the 9600-bps telemetry
of AO-51, for example. I would then parse the text externally and and
combine with the engineering equations to get to the calibrated data. Thank
you very much.
KG4QWC, Jim.
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 00:04:02 +0100
From: "Howard Long" <howard(AT)howardlong.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Farnborough International Airshow
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <E599E9F58B224FDF91A1661324C55EEE(AT)LAPTOP9>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Some snaps from today's Airshow.
http://www.g6lvb.com/dsc_0371.jpg
Richard Garriott, W5KWQ (who is the son of astronaut Owen Garriott, W5LFL)
with Buzz Aldrin today. Richard Garriott is due to be on board the ISS 14-22
October as a Space Tourist. From my discussion with Richard today this could
be a very interesting mission for amateur radio.
http://www.g6lvb.com/dsc_0372.jpg
Buzz holds court with Head Teacher of Budbrooke Primary School (Carol
Taylor) whose school has applied for an ARISS contact, and parent Ciaran
Morgan (M0XTD).
73, Howard G6LVB
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:09:19 -0500
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter(AT)networkref.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <487BEAAF.4010801(AT)networkref.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The Namast project is not dead. If you had been subscribed to the
Namaste listserv, you would have seen messages to that affect. I think
it is important to remember that this is a volunteer effort. If I had
talents in the engineering area, I would be glad to volunteer but that
is not where my skills are. If you have skills in those areas,
volunteer and help out.
Ron Nutter
KA4KYI
Dave Guimont wrote:
>> It seems obvious now that AMSAT-NA projects are collapsing NAMASTE
>> is dead and EAGLE PROBABLY WILL BE HALTED TOO?????
>> SEE BELOW THE FULL EXCHANGE AND PLEASE READ THE THREADS ON:
>> http://amsat.org/pipermail/namaste-dev/2008-July/thread.html
>>
>> Here is an excerpt moving around the "Super duper" AMSAT-NA
>> president on the NAMSATE reflector
>>
>> AMSAT-NA is on a crashing course i doubt this group will survive up
>> to the end of 2008! Sad news but could be under a new leadership things
>> can still have some chance of success!
>> P.S. I just hope i am dead wrong here?
>
> Luc, tnx fer ur research and publication...Many amateur satellite
> operators in the world are of the same opinion...AMSAT-NA is beating
> a dead horse...
>
> Absence of HEO, necessitates confirmation of those facts, NOW on 20
> meters! Just the way we traded information for the early satellites.
>
> I ran one of the early 20 meter satellite nets, hopefully a P3E
> launch will not require 20 meters to globally communicate again...
>
> COMMUNICATION is the name of the game....nearly impossible now....if
> you want grid squares use your cell phone!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:42:28 -0500
From: "Stefan Wagener" <stefan_wagener(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Icom IC-910H (incl 23cm unit)
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <BAY130-DAV69359082B8DD58671CFE4F68C0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I am selling an exceptional, slightly used, fully equipped ICOM IC-910H with
the plastic protective sheet still on the display.
It comes with:
UX-910 1.2 GHz Module (1-10 watts). This is the 23cm unit.
Two (2x) UT-106 DSP Units providing noise reduction and auto notch for both
receivers.
CR-293 the high stability option virtually eliminates drift ( ?0.5 ppm at
0?C to +60?C).
USB CI-V CAT cable for full computer control of the radio, original mic and
manual.
This package is new well over $2500 from Universal Radio.
The first $1700 will take it. Shipping is extra and PayPal is preferred.
Contact me offline for questions.
Thanks, Stefan VE4NSA
PS. Yes, I will ship worldwide!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:57:17 -0700
From: AC7YY - Kim <ac7yy(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1216083437.6303.35.camel(AT)kim-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:24 -0700, DeYoung James wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am wondering if anyone on the BB knows if there are any 9600-bps
soundcard-based AX.25 ASCII decoding programs out in the www? If so what is
the web address for it? I know 9600-bps is possible with modern soundcards as
I have a program from COAA that decodes it for non-HAM related data. I am
using my IC-910H data socket port output with it set to 9600 in the settings.
I am interested in using the 9600-bps program for capturing the 9600-bps
telemetry of AO-51, for example. I would then parse the text externally and
and combine with the engineering equations to get to the calibrated data.
Thank you very much.
>
> KG4QWC, Jim.
>
>
soundmodem works well for receiving.
73
kim -ac7yy
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:00:43 -0000
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO Launch Costs
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>, "Dave Guimont"
<dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <004001c8e616$35e3f520$0201a8c0(AT)your6bvpxyztoq>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
At Ham Radio 2008 the AMSAT-DL P3E update included the statement that "the
cost quoted by Arianespace for the launch of P3E is outside the budget of
AMSAT-DL." Are they talking about the same dead horse?
73,
John
KD6OZH
>
> Luc, tnx fer ur research and publication...Many amateur satellite
> operators in the world are of the same opinion...AMSAT-NA is beating
> a dead horse...
>
> Absence of HEO, necessitates confirmation of those facts, NOW on 20
> meters! Just the way we traded information for the early satellites.
>
> I ran one of the early 20 meter satellite nets, hopefully a P3E
> launch will not require 20 meters to globally communicate again...
>
> COMMUNICATION is the name of the game....nearly impossible now....if
> you want grid squares use your cell phone!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:47:40 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <B32FED02AD4C4839AE5465B5CA32044C(AT)Andrewlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Do a search for MixW; I know at least two guys who have made it work with
GO-32.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "AC7YY - Kim" <ac7yy(AT)comcast.net>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
> On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:24 -0700, DeYoung James wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone on the BB knows if there are any 9600-bps
>> soundcard-based AX.25 ASCII decoding programs out in the www? If so what
>> is the web address for it? I know 9600-bps is possible with modern
>> soundcards as I have a program from COAA that decodes it for non-HAM
>> related data. I am using my IC-910H data socket port output with it set
>> to 9600 in the settings. I am interested in using the 9600-bps program
>> for capturing the 9600-bps telemetry of AO-51, for example. I would
>> then parse the text externally and and combine with the engineering
>> equations to get to the calibrated data. Thank you very much.
>>
>> KG4QWC, Jim.
>>
>>
>
> soundmodem works well for receiving.
>
> 73
> kim -ac7yy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:19:47 -0800
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <200807150219.m6F2JlUp038465(AT)iris.acsalaska.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Its now many years ago...but I used MixW2 with AO-40tlm to read the
telemetry from AO-40. I have not tried using it for a long time. It
was used with the 9600-baud packet output of my FT-847. There used
to be Amsat webpages on setting it up for AO40-tlm. But MixW2 is
capable of lots of different digital modes. Best I can add to Drew's reply.
Ed - KL7UW
At 05:47 PM 7/14/2008, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>Do a search for MixW; I know at least two guys who have made it work with
>GO-32.
>
>73, Drew KO4MA
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "AC7YY - Kim" <ac7yy(AT)comcast.net>
>To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:57 PM
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 9600 bp AX.25 soundcard decoder
>
>
> > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 13:24 -0700, DeYoung James wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I am wondering if anyone on the BB knows if there are any 9600-bps
> >> soundcard-based AX.25 ASCII decoding programs out in the www? If so what
> >> is the web address for it? I know 9600-bps is possible with modern
> >> soundcards as I have a program from COAA that decodes it for non-HAM
> >> related data. I am using my IC-910H data socket port output with it set
> >> to 9600 in the settings. I am interested in using the 9600-bps program
> >> for capturing the 9600-bps telemetry of AO-51, for example. I would
> >> then parse the text externally and and combine with the engineering
> >> equations to get to the calibrated data. Thank you very much.
> >>
> >> KG4QWC, Jim.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > soundmodem works well for receiving.
> >
> > 73
> > kim -ac7yy
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:01:48 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS Interfaces
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4A0C1D87-A2B4-454B-8EB7-615EA320FF35(AT)earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>> A great way to keep everyone informed of such adventures and events
>> is to use an APRS or DSTAR radio, or any of the low-cost under $40
>> APRS interfaces to an existing radio so others can see where you
>> are in real time on your own APRS web page: http://map.findu.com/WD9EWK*
Bob - I didn't realize that the price point had dropped so low...Where
can we find specific info about these "sub-$40 interfaces" and
associated cabling?
Clint, K6LCS
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:59:10 -0400
From: "Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)" <w2gps(AT)cnssys.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <0BB80DF369F34C369EC80A33B0A8C4F6(AT)RICK>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Luc,
I am glad you care enough about AMSAT's future to pay attention to events as
they unfold. It appears that you have misinterpreted recent events, however.
AMSAT's engineering department is undergoing a reorganization that we hope
will allow us to better focus on the results our members have been looking
for and improve cooperation among the development teams. There is nothing
sinister going on at all.
AMSAT members will be getting more detailed information through the Journal
and the engineering mailing lists in the coming days and weeks.
Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:22 AM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
As usual AMSAT-NA is keeping the crowds unaware and uninformed on AMSAT-BB
and on purpose...NAMASTE and EAGLE project are from my point of
view literally dead! For those who are still believing on a HEO made by
AMSAT-NA forget it they "HALTED" NAMASTE et fired out the EAGLE
team leaders
Here is some e-mails exchange...
It seems obvious now that AMSAT-NA projects are collapsing NAMASTE is dead
and EAGLE PROBABLY WILL BE HALTED TOO?????
SEE BELOW THE FULL EXCHANGE AND PLEASE READ THE THREADS ON:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/namaste-dev/2008-July/thread.html
Here is an excerpt moving around the "Super duper" AMSAT-NA president on the
NAMSATE reflector
> At this time, all group leaders on the Eagle project
> are relieved of their leadership duties.
...
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:57:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS Interfaces
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <20080714235716.AGL06775(AT)mp3.nettest.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> A great way to keep everyone informed of such
>> adventures and events is to use an APRS or
>> DSTAR radio, or any of the low-cost under $40
>> APRS interfaces to an existing radio...
>> so others can see where you are... on your own
>> APRS web page: http://map.findu.com/URCALL*
>
> Bob - I didn't realize that the price point had
> dropped so low...Where can we find specific info
> about these "sub-$40 interfaces" and associated
> cabling?
The Tinytrak3 from byonics.com or the opentrak from Scott, or others. I
suppose I should have a better list ready to drop in, but I am at the beach...
But then remember, I also consider APRS as NOT a vehicle tracking system (just
TX devices) but more as a local information distribution system about all that
is going on in ham radio in the local area. In that sense, I prefer two-way
systems with displays for the mobile operator.
Bob, WB4APR
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:07:33 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HEO Launch Costs
To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh(AT)comcast.net>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080715040735.XRM4229.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>At Ham Radio 2008 the AMSAT-DL P3E update included the statement
>that "the cost quoted by Arianespace for the launch of P3E is
>outside the budget of AMSAT-DL." Are they talking about the same dead horse?
>
>73,
>
>John
>KD6OZH
>
John, I cannot answer that question...
I hope not, because if it is "yes", then I'm throwing my money down
the tubes....
But I at least get answers from Peter .... AMSAT-DL, and whatever
they do with the funds is certainly better than what AMSAT-NA does with it.
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:20:15 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: "Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)" <w2gps(AT)cnssys.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080715042017.NWOA4153.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>Luc,
>
>I am glad you care enough about AMSAT's future to pay attention to events as
>they unfold.
>Rick
>W2GPS
>AMSAT LM2232
>
Now that is about as much politicking as I care to put up with...
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:17:22 -0400
From: "Ford, Steve, WB8IMY" <sford(AT)arrl.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Call for Papers--2008 ARRL/TAPR Digital
Communications Conference
To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty(AT)contesting.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>,
<vhf(AT)w6yx.stanford.edu>, <psk31(AT)bipt106.bi.ehu.es>,
<digitalradio(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID:
<AD6F46BB3421B241903D155572BA86FE03BC0902(AT)cartagia.ARRLHQ.ORG>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Technical papers are solicited for presentation at the 27th Annual ARRL
and TAPR Digital Communications Conference to be held September 26-28,
2008 in Chicago, Illinois. These papers will also be published in the
Conference Proceedings (you do NOT need to attend the conference to have
your paper included in the Proceedings). The submission deadline is July
31. Please send papers to:
Maty Weinberg
ARRL
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
or you can make your submission via e-mail to: maty(AT)arrl.org
Papers will be published exactly as submitted and authors will retain
all rights.
73 . . . Steve, WB8IMY
ARRL
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:42:37 -0400
From: "David Goncalves" <davegoncalves(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<efbd6ca10807150642m489134c3xd5021989e5be1e85(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
This reminds me of a short story about a boy on a bicycle and a
chicken on the road.
In one part, the boy swerves to avoid the chicken, takes a hard fall
and dies. His mother cries - he didn't need to swerve, it was just a
chicken! Why did he kill himself saving a chicken!
In another part, the boy sees the danger, and goes ahead and runs over
the chicken to save himself. His mother scolds the boy, and thinks him
a monster, crying - why did he kill an defenseless chicken!
David Goncalves
W1EUJ
On 7/15/08, Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Luc,
> >
> >I am glad you care enough about AMSAT's future to pay attention to events
as
> >they unfold.
> >Rick
> >W2GPS
> >AMSAT LM2232
> >
>
> Now that is about as much politicking as I care to put up with...
>
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:38:07 -0700
From: "David Smith" <w6te(AT)msn.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, "Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)" <w2gps(AT)cnssys.com>
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
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Rick,
I've been volunteering as an Area Coordinator since 1978 or so. Before that I
was a Project Oscar member from 1972.. I've never seen this organization and
the support of A/C's as dysfunctional as it is now! The AMSAT Website is a
disgrace and hasn't been updated in many months. The on line purchasing of
stuff doesn't work. I was one of the volunteers who worked on the 70 CM
Prototype Telemetry receiver. I was the guy that put the Excel spreadsheet
together to identify, order and track parts...
In any event, from my standpoint, the Area Coordinators haven't had any real
support for years. Information out of the organization is dismal! ... So
you've FIRED everyone on Eagle.... I should try to follow politics in this
organization more closely.... I don't do that.... I think, however that it's
time for a change in leadership. When I was one of the individuals working on
the 70 cm telemeter receivers, Jim Stafford was the Project Manager. Jim was
an excellent PM. What happened?????
I think sometimes you folks are so enduring to yourselves, you think you have
everything in control and don't realize the support and organization is
crumbling around you. And the worst of it all.... YOU let happen and didn't do
anything to change things.!!
Dave Smith W6TE
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Hambly (W2GPS)<mailto:w2gps(AT)cnssys.com>
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com<mailto:eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
Luc,
I am glad you care enough about AMSAT's future to pay attention to events as
they unfold. It appears that you have misinterpreted recent events, however.
AMSAT's engineering department is undergoing a reorganization that we hope
will allow us to better focus on the results our members have been looking
for and improve cooperation among the development teams. There is nothing
sinister going on at all.
AMSAT members will be getting more detailed information through the Journal
and the engineering mailing lists in the coming days and weeks.
Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org>
[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 2:22 AM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org<mailto:amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com<mailto:eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAMSATE AND EAGLE PROJECT ARE DEAD!!!
As usual AMSAT-NA is keeping the crowds unaware and uninformed on AMSAT-BB
and on purpose...NAMASTE and EAGLE project are from my point of
view literally dead! For those who are still believing on a HEO made by
AMSAT-NA forget it they "HALTED" NAMASTE et fired out the EAGLE
team leaders
Here is some e-mails exchange...
It seems obvious now that AMSAT-NA projects are collapsing NAMASTE is dead
and EAGLE PROBABLY WILL BE HALTED TOO?????
SEE BELOW THE FULL EXCHANGE AND PLEASE READ THE THREADS ON:
http://amsat.org/pipermail/namaste-dev/2008-
July/thread.html<http://amsatorg/pipermail/namaste-dev/2008-July/thread.html>
Here is an excerpt moving around the "Super duper" AMSAT-NA president on the
NAMSATE reflector
> At this time, all group leaders on the Eagle project
> are relieved of their leadership duties.
...
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