| |
CX2SA > SATDIG 22.07.08 05:18l 933 Lines 29360 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 19949_CX2SA
Read: GUEST
Subj: AMSAT-BB-digest V3 363
Path: IZ3LSV<IK2XDE<DB0RES<ON0AR<HS1LMV<CX2SA
Sent: 080722/0318Z @:CX2SA.LAV.URY.SA #:19949 [Minas] FBB7.00e $:19949_CX2SA
From: CX2SA@CX2SA.LAV.URY.SA
To : SATDIG@WW
Today's Topics:
1. Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Bill Ress)
2. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Alan P. Biddle)
3. Re: Volunteering (Gregg Wonderly)
4. Re: Volunteering (Rick Hambly (W2GPS))
5. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Dave Guimont)
6. FW: [PNWVHFS] Fw: [dxlab] Tower Dogs TV program
(w7lrd(AT)comcast.net)
7. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Bill Ress)
8. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(John Price)
9. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Robert Bruninga)
10. AO-51 repeaters (Alan P. Biddle)
11. Re: AO-51 repeaters (Fred VE3FAL)
12. Re: AO-51 repeaters (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey (Bruce)
14. Re: AO-51 repeaters (Fred VE3FAL)
15. Antenna near gas lines? (Rick Mann)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:15:34 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating
Survey
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4884EE66.2020707(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello all,
On August 10-11, the AMSAT Senior leadership will be holding a critical
"strategy" meeting with the theme of "Can We? Should We?" launch a HEO
satellite.
As a board candidate, I feel it's essential that "strategic" decisions
must consider the membership's opinions and desires.
The last membership survey taken was in 2004 by Gunther Meisse, W8GSM.
So, to get the current thinking of the membership, I invite you take the
simple, anonymous, no cost (probably unscientific) survey that I have
prepared to determine your operating preferences at . . . . .
http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/55247/amsat-operating-preferences
I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format to get membership
opinion on future topics. This is my first go at it, so I hope that I
selected the right buttons to make it work. Let me know if you run into
any issues at . . .
n6ghz(AT)amsat.org
I'll let the survey run for about a week and then I'll share the results
here on the -bb with a copy of the results to the senior leadership.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:35:22 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: "'amsat bb'" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <5E9C5E739E914E6897371F89440D15E5(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bill,
Everything seemed to work well, and the questions were relevant and clearly
stated. I would suggest that you include a section at the end for free text
comments, if possible. I know that opens a can of worms, but sometimes a
comment may contain relevant information.
You might bring up this mode of communication to the BoD as an AMSAT-NA
tool, rather than just that of an individual officer. We have more than one
officer or VP, either due to work load or e-mail issues, who apparently
doesn't have time to answer questions or discuss issues. This might be a
help for better communications on both policy and operational issues.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:14:51 -0500
From: Gregg Wonderly <w5ggw(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteering
To: bruninga(AT)usna.edu
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4884FC4B.9020205(AT)cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Robert Bruninga wrote:
> When I further pressure him to go out an find a job, he just
> goes out, collects more applications... And comes back to play
> video games... When pressured, he responds with the number of
> applications he has filled out. Nothing about going out and
> "working" to find a job...
Humm, I think this is an interesting situation. It points out how amazingly
lazy we all are about making something happen. The more fortunate of us have
things landing in our laps, and we pick and choose. Those of us without such
opportunities have to go out and work to find something we can get a hold of,
so
that we can have something to do, and if we are lucky, we get payed enough to
eat today and have a roof over our head.
One of the things that a well known TV therapist says is "you have to know
their
currency." I.e. you have to know what they value the most, and make sure you
are trading in that currency. Otherwise, the motivation is just not there for
them.
Some of the more popular video games, which are Multiuser online games, have
whole ecosystems in them. I've watched various people become very infatuated
with those echosystems and their challenges and rewards. They are easy to
recover from disaster in. You can't go negative, although you can misspend
monies and mistrade items to lose on the balance sheet.
The kids are easily drawn in by the chance to be better than someone else,
with
the convenience of anonymity.
Somewhat like this list...
Gregg Wonderly
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:37:32 -0400
From: "Rick Hambly \(W2GPS\)" <w2gps(AT)cnssys.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Volunteering
To: "'mvm'" <amvm(AT)skynet.be>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <CDCC3A3E771F4C46AE87F991D6E615D6(AT)RICK>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Marc Vermeersch (ON4AMV),
I understand your experience with the volunteer form on the Web site. That
data has been going into a database managed by Perry W3PK. Then people in
AMSAT who need help are supposed to go to Perry to get excerpts from this
database and contact the people on the list for help. Clearly that process
is not working.
I have ideas on how to make the volunteer database more useful but it will
take a volunteer to write an application to make this data available on-line
and let the owner of the data change it as their situation changes.
I apologize if I am not responsive enough on amsat-bb. I have a real job
that must be attended to as well and there are only so many hours in a day.
Rick
W2GPS
AMSAT LM2232
-----Original Message-----
From: mvm [mailto:amvm(AT)skynet.be]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 5:20 AM
To: Rick Hambly (W2GPS); amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: Volunteering
And again... No reply....
Statistically spoken, I didn't expect one...
Funny organization!
Rick Hambly (W2GPS) schreef:
> Luc,
>
> You and Dave are very creative. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you used your
> creativity for something useful and positive? I'm sure there must be
> something you can do that would help the Ham community you obviously
> care so
> much about.
>
> Rick
> W2GPS
> AMSAT LM2232
>
>
Rick,
Interesting point!! What if I wanted to volunteer?
On 3 occasions over the last 3-4 years I have filled out the volunteer
questionnaire on the amsat website because I was motivated to volunteer,
have many of the skills that are requested, a lot of free time and money
to spend. I followed up with email also. I have NEVER received any
feedback; not on the questionnaire, not on the follow up emails. Never
got an answer when I asked why...
BR,
--
/\/\arc
LM2304
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:40:32 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<20080721214036.SSKI15817.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 01:15 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote:
>I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format to get membership
>opinion on future topics. This is my first go at it, so I hope that I
>selected the right buttons to make it work. Let me know if you run into
>any issues at . . .
I took the survey, great idea, but I saw no mention of an option for
a LEO similar to 07 ssb/cw??
The cost of a HEO appears to be prohibitive, but I certainly don't
want another AO51!!! So I was forced to choose HEO...
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:46:42 +0000
From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [PNWVHFS] Fw: [dxlab] Tower Dogs TV program
To: k7nex(AT)clearwire.net (Dick Vance), AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org (AMSAT-BB)
Message-ID:
<072120082146.11181.488503C2000A758A00002BAD22155688840B9D04C999(AT)comc
ast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
This might be of interest, as most of us have one
73 Bob W7LRD
--
-------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
To: "PNWVHFS" <PNWVHFS(AT)googlegroups.com>, "COARL Group"
<COARL(AT)googlegroups.com>
Subject: [PNWVHFS] Fw: [dxlab] Tower Dogs TV program
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:40:33 +0000
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Turner
Subject: [dxlab] Tower Dogs TV program
Not topic-related exactly, but probably of interest to subscribers:
"DATELINE" PRESENTS "TOWER DOGS" -- A NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN LOOK AT THE MOST
DANGEROUS JOB IN AMERICA -- MONDAY, JULY 21 AT 10 PM
(New York) - July 16, 2008 - An upcoming "Dateline Presents" takes a
never-before-seen journey into the perilous world of the tower climbers
who
work on the frontlines of America's high-tech communications system.
They
scale heights of up to 2,000 feet, in all types of weather, to install,
maintain, and upgrade cell phone, Internet, and broadcast towers coast
to
coast. And according to figures cited by OSHA, these so-called tower
dogs
have the highest death rate per capita of any occupation in the
country.
The hour-long broadcast goes up close and personal to give a
no-holds-barred
look at tower dogs' lives - up in the air and on the ground. We
experience
their on-the-job tension and watch them work hard, play hard, and mourn
when
they lose one of their own. In a twist on all the dangerous-job programs
viewers have already seen, "Tower Dogs" follows an unusual subcontract
crew
boss: a woman named Nikki Collins, a single mom, former cheerleader, and
the
person keeping her tough-guy charges in one piece.
There are approximately 9,500 tower climbers working at any given time,
and
they spend about 300 days per year on the road. A "Dateline" team worked
with veteran tower dog Doug Delaney for four months documenting this
group
of tower climbers as they worked their way through 40 towns and cities
in 24
states. During this time there were seven fatalities nationwide,
including
five deaths in a 12-day period in April.
"Tower Dogs" airs on Monday, July 21st at 10:00 PM/ET. David Corvo is
the
executive producer.
#
Aliza Nadi
Dateline NBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
__._,_.___
Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic
Messages | Files | Photos
MARKETPLACE
You rock! Blockbuster wants to give you a complimentary trial of Blockbuster
Total Access.
Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required)
Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to
Traditional
Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity
13New Members
3New Files
Visit Your Group
Biz Resources
Y! Small Business
Articles, tools,
forms, and more.
Best of Y! Groups
Check out the best
of what Yahoo!
Groups has to offer.
Yahoo! Groups
Balance your life
by learning how to
make smart choices..
__,_._,___
--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
~The Voice of the Pacific NorthWest VHF Society~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
"PNWVHFS" group.
To post to this group, send email to PNWVHFS(AT)googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to PNWVHFS-
unsubscribe(AT)googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/PNWVHFS
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:54:51 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <488505AB.5080502(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi Dave,
This is my first shot at this e-survey thing, so it's a work in
progress. I don't think Mr. Gallop will be threatened. I wanted to find
a simple way to get membership views.
I've appreciated all the comments and suggestions I've received to date.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
Dave Guimont wrote:
> At 01:15 PM 7/21/2008, you wrote:
>
>> I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format to get membership
>> opinion on future topics. This is my first go at it, so I hope that I
>> selected the right buttons to make it work. Let me know if you run into
>> any issues at . . .
>
>
> I took the survey, great idea, but I saw no mention of an option for a
> LEO similar to 07 ssb/cw??
>
> The cost of a HEO appears to be prohibitive, but I certainly don't
> want another AO51!!! So I was forced to choose HEO...
>
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:00:42 -0400
From: "John Price" <n4qwf1(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: "Bill Ress" <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>, "amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<8d1b8e80807211600m9997a99o847d8e4a28c843ef(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I agree that a comment section would be of great value. Yes or no and
multiple choice leaves one with picking the best of the undesirable
responses. Example I would prefer a HEO but if we
are going to get a GEO ride for free then for me it is a moot point.
Hard to express yourself in survey format but it is better than not
expressing yourself at all.
I for one am very opposed to the 3 and 10 gig transponder. I have seen
little or no interest in the 1.2 uplink. Folks are not willing to
spend $500.00 to work a transponder that is mostly quite and
could go away over night like 2.4 did with AO-40. Did anyone listen to
the L/u AO-51 on Field Day.
While V/u was jammed I worked the first station I heard on L/u and
there were maybe 5 others on that pass. I don't maintain 1.2 gig
equipment here. It is not worth the investment.
Now if I had a place to make those comments I would feel like I was
contributing.
My 2 cent worth. 73's << John
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On August 10-11, the AMSAT Senior leadership will be holding a critical
> "strategy" meeting with the theme of "Can We? Should We?" launch a HEO
> satellite.
>
> As a board candidate, I feel it's essential that "strategic" decisions
> must consider the membership's opinions and desires.
>
> The last membership survey taken was in 2004 by Gunther Meisse, W8GSM.
>
> So, to get the current thinking of the membership, I invite you take the
> simple, anonymous, no cost (probably unscientific) survey that I have
> prepared to determine your operating preferences at . . . . .
>
> http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/55247/amsat-operating-preferences
>
> I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format to get membership
> opinion on future topics. This is my first go at it, so I hope that I
> selected the right buttons to make it work. Let me know if you run into
> any issues at . . .
>
> n6ghz(AT)amsat.org
>
> I'll let the survey run for about a week and then I'll share the results
> here on the -bb with a copy of the results to the senior leadership.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
N4QWF Amateur Radio Operator
AO-7,AO-27,SO-50,AO-51,VO-52,ISS
Internet N4QWF(AT)AMSAT.ORG
Echolink nodes #110903 -L #388463
Formerly KC4AHW VK3FEZ
Amsat Member #27845
DXCC #33,478
VUCC SAT #135
WAS SAT #296
51 on AO-51 #13
LON -79.256 LAT 37.459 Grid FM07il
>From the Foothills of the Blueridge
*Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly
proclaiming - "WOW, What a ride!"
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:01:57 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: "'amsat bb'" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <D77A7C467DB3449787086526F73E86F2(AT)ewlab.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> So, to get the current thinking of the membership,
> I invite you take the simple, anonymous, no cost
> (probably unscientific) survey that I have
> prepared to determine your operating preferences at . . . . .
>
> http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/55247/amsat-operating-preferences
Although I applaud the effort an initiative to prepare such a
survey, I'm not comfortable with the questions and answers,
because I don't think they will do much to help the membership
or officers make an informed decision, because the questions are
not phrased to extracting a cost-benefit response.
We would all like the best possible satellite providing 24/7
worldwide communications to a small 18" antenna that provides
both voice, data, video, and internet. The problem is,
-at-what-cost-and-what-tradeoffs???
Unless each question that offers a benefit, also weighs that
benefit against the cost and risk, and loss of other efforts,
the data is of little meaningfull value.
> I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format
> to get membership opinion on future topics.
Problem is, everyone has an opinion. It is not until you force
the opinionated to select their favorite opinon at the expense
of what they have to lose or give up, that such a survey has
value...
> Let me know if you run into any issues...
Again, I appreciate your approach and incentive, but to be
meaningful, I think the questions and selected answers have to
be better designed to give tradeoffs, not just opinions.
Good luck.
Thanks
Bob, WB4APR
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:59:25 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 repeaters
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <7FB516C5C846405AB036DCE98B331700(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
The 145.880/435.150 repeater is up and working great. Unfortunately, nobody
is using it. I talked to myself for an entire pass, rather like mode L/S.
When 145.920/435.300 sounds like Field Day, give the other one a try.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----------------------------------
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
from such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:06:27 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
To: <APBIDDLE(AT)mailaps.org>
Cc: 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <00a701c8eb97$2b17aca0$bd00a8c0(AT)radioroom>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Will be listening at 01:24z pass...
Fred
VE3FAL
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:59 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 repeaters
Hi,
The 145.880/435.150 repeater is up and working great. Unfortunately, nobody
is using it. I talked to myself for an entire pass, rather like mode L/S.
When 145.920/435.300 sounds like Field Day, give the other one a try.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----------------------------------
There is something fascinating about science.
One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
from such a trifling investment of fact.
Mark Twain
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:08:15 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BDBB1CA9A7504E118B74CC5F3AE093FE(AT)Andrewlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Thanks Alan,
I was contemplating posting a reminder tonight. We've had MANY requests for
this mode, so please use it. Myself, I'll be operating /KL7 beginning
Saturday and through the 4th of August, and I expect to be on the
145.88/435.150 repeater for stateside windows. This might be a good time to
make a schedule with that faraway grid, country or state you need on
satellite!
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Ops
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:59 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 repeaters
> Hi,
>
> The 145.880/435.150 repeater is up and working great. Unfortunately,
> nobody
> is using it. I talked to myself for an entire pass, rather like mode L/S.
> When 145.920/435.300 sounds like Field Day, give the other one a try.
>
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> There is something fascinating about science.
> One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
> from such a trifling investment of fact.
>
> Mark Twain
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:17:04 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: "amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <F0AE4D92-6F33-4B5C-A262-2636D80D6A28(AT)amsat.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes
AMSAT sent out a survey many years ago andthat is where our current
path has lead. personally I don't think surveys can substitute for the
lack of money, volunteers and elbow grease.
after all, I bet you could put a question out there... if a satellite
were launched, would you use it? after receiving 100% reply in favor,
you are still in the same boat.
subjective questions can lead the response in the direction you would
prefer by giving less desirable possibilities for the other answers.
it is no longer a matter of build it and it will get launched. i think
our efforts of going geostationary on a commercial satellite is going
to be the best we can do right now.
73...bruce
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2008, at 6:01 PM, "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
wrote:
>> So, to get the current thinking of the membership,
>> I invite you take the simple, anonymous, no cost
>> (probably unscientific) survey that I have
>> prepared to determine your operating preferences at . . . . .
>>
>> http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/55247/amsat-operating-preferences
>
> Although I applaud the effort an initiative to prepare such a
> survey, I'm not comfortable with the questions and answers,
> because I don't think they will do much to help the membership
> or officers make an informed decision, because the questions are
> not phrased to extracting a cost-benefit response.
>
> We would all like the best possible satellite providing 24/7
> worldwide communications to a small 18" antenna that provides
> both voice, data, video, and internet. The problem is,
> -at-what-cost-and-what-tradeoffs???
>
> Unless each question that offers a benefit, also weighs that
> benefit against the cost and risk, and loss of other efforts,
> the data is of little meaningfull value.
>
>> I will be using this simple, easy e-survey format
>> to get membership opinion on future topics.
>
> Problem is, everyone has an opinion. It is not until you force
> the opinionated to select their favorite opinon at the expense
> of what they have to lose or give up, that such a survey has
> value...
>
>> Let me know if you run into any issues...
>
> Again, I appreciate your approach and incentive, but to be
> meaningful, I think the questions and selected answers have to
> be better designed to give tradeoffs, not just opinions.
>
> Good luck.
> Thanks
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:37:04 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
To: "'Andrew Glasbrenner'" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <00b101c8eb9b$72480580$bd00a8c0(AT)radioroom>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Nada heard on this last pass, even turned the handheld on and could not hear
anything back.
Fred
VE3FAL
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:08 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
Thanks Alan,
I was contemplating posting a reminder tonight. We've had MANY requests for
this mode, so please use it. Myself, I'll be operating /KL7 beginning
Saturday and through the 4th of August, and I expect to be on the
145.88/435.150 repeater for stateside windows. This might be a good time to
make a schedule with that faraway grid, country or state you need on
satellite!
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Ops
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 7:59 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 repeaters
> Hi,
>
> The 145.880/435.150 repeater is up and working great. Unfortunately,
> nobody
> is using it. I talked to myself for an entire pass, rather like mode L/S.
> When 145.920/435.300 sounds like Field Day, give the other one a try.
>
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> There is something fascinating about science.
> One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture
> from such a trifling investment of fact.
>
> Mark Twain
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:42:12 -0700
From: Rick Mann <rmann(AT)latencyzero.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna near gas lines?
To: amsat Org <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <B1122526-69A1-4EE9-9750-3E2C70C97E06(AT)latencyzero.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Hi. Sorry for the somewhat off-topic post.
I recently moved into a townhouse with a lovely homeowner's
association. Rather than fight them putting up my antenna outside, I
decided to just mount it inside my attic. I found a spot about 3 feet
away from a vertical run of the gas line to the heater (also in the
attic). My first choice as a location right next to it, 'till I
realized it was there.
Should I be concerned about creating an explosion hazard? My
transmitter outputs a maximum of 100 W, and it's going into a Diamond
X-30 antenna (http://www.diamond-ant.jp/ama2/eng_ama_2_2_3.asp).
I wouldn't think it should be a problem, since it's metal pipe, and an
RF energy is unlikely to go through the gas. But sadly, I don't
remember what I learned when I took my test, if it even addressed this
issue.
Any advice would be welcome.
Thanks!
--
Rick
------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Sent via amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
End of AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 363
****************************************
Read previous mail | Read next mail
| |