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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-51 repeaters (Alan P. Biddle)
2. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - OperatingSurvey
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
3. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - OperatingSurvey
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - OperatingSurvey
(Ronald Long)
5. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - OperatingSurvey
(Alan P. Biddle)
6. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -Operating Survey
(Robert Bruninga)
7. Mounting a Primestar Dish (Reicher, James)
8. Re: AO-51 repeaters (Alan P. Biddle)
9. Re: 2225 Miles - AO-51 (Rafael Valdez G.)
10. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Bill Ress)
11. Re: 2.4Ghz satellites and signals ? (K & R Yoksh)
12. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Bill Ress)
13. Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate - Operating Survey
(Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:02:06 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <E37E47F4B3E44421A7E35320856DA5FF(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Fred,
Good pass this AM, 1152Z, but as last night, no users.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:11:56 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
OperatingSurvey
To: "Dave hartzell" <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>, "Edward Cole"
<kl7uw(AT)acsalaska.net>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1E5B28F18177442B90D2BF3C8A38F77F(AT)Andrewlaptop>
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reply-type=response
Some replies to Ed's comments:
>
> The Intelsat should be much less expensive:
> 1-free ride
> 2-free power
> 3-free stabilization
Let me clarify this some. It is -not- a free ride. Intelsat will charge us
for the loss of operational time for every kg of stationkeeping fuel they
offload to accomondate our extra mass. There may be some recurring expenses
as well.
>
> All you provide is RF, antennas, and a communication processor.
>
The good stuff.
> But the location is specified by Intelsat so only one-third of the earth
> is covered. Which third do you chose for satellite #1. For whole-earth
> coverage you need rides to three locations 120-deg longitude apart. Far
> north latitudes will probably not get coverage due to low angles to GEO.
>
> For my location at 60.7 latitude the GEO path is 21 degrees elevation due
> south and is lower as you move east or west.
We most likely would not be dealing with any sort of spot beam and the
antennas should be broadbeamed enough so that there is no reason to assume
1/3 instead of almost 1/2. If you could work AO-10, AO-13, or AO-40 near the
horizon, the same would likely be true for Intelsat. What would be different
is we each could dedicated a fixed antenna with no rotor for ground side,
and if you live surrounded by 100' pine trees like I do, you can find an
open hole to point through.
>
> So continuing with Eagle offers world coverage over a couple days of
> orbiting. GEO stays in one position.
>
While this will maybe make some DXers feel less fulfilled than a HEO, it's
my hope that it will attract 10x their number in other users. A GEO knocks
500$ of the top of everyone's station budget right out of the gate...no
az-el rotor. Think of the traffic that is likely to be attracted to
this...24/7 amateur coverage with set and forget antennas over 1/2 the
earth. No Doppler tuning. Practically fixed gain requirements. We may have
to find a way to manage the data and repeater system links that will
inevitably show up. My gut suspicion is we won't be able to afford enough
bandwidth on the first iteration for the users that may come out of the
woodwork. If we could just get all the users to support the program...
> I will see you in Anchorage, Drew!
The YL and I will be in Anchorage on Saturday evening, then in Seward and
Whittier until Thursday or so. I'm looking forward to meeting and speaking
with all of ya'll!
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:24:32 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
OperatingSurvey
To: "Dave hartzell" <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <F4D33DC50C3F4308BAB9FB266271E6FB(AT)Andrewlaptop>
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> Honestly, thanks for chiming into the BB, Drew. It is my hope that
> all the other directors are reading.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave
> AF6KD (ex n0tgd)
I think most do, even if they don't admit it. It can be difficult though
when people sling accusations that border on libel. I know I read every
message, but usually only chime in when it will serve a purpose, is in a
civil discourse, and isn't the same set of circular rants we have all heard
before from the usual suspects.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:30:54 -0400
From: Ronald Long <rlong3(AT)columbus.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
OperatingSurvey
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080722082743.0038fac8(AT)columbus.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
I do not think this is helpful. IMHO a survey should come from the
BOD, and of course the design should incorporate the thoughts of a
number of persons - the BOD, of course, but also others that the BOD recruits.
ron w8gus
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:27:41 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
OperatingSurvey
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4A8AD82A8D8F4D5D96F7AA4B0C6253BF(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Drew,
>>only chime in when it will serve a purpose, is in a civil discourse, and
isn't the same set of circular rants we have all heard before from the usual
suspects.
While the ideal is laudable, you will seldom if ever find a discussion which
meets all of the above criteria. Not referring to any individual here, but
there have been times when the core issue of the
discussion/arguement/flamewar was a valid one which should have been
addressed by the appropriate leaders and was studiously ignored. In one
case I asked an AMSAT officer about a particular matter which came up about
2 years ago, and was told with considerable condescension that he had not
replied because he did not think the tone of the argument was worth his
time. When pushed about the _topic_ in a polite manner, he became
defensive, and still refused to discuss it. Even a couple of beers did not
open him up. ;)
There is always a faction in any organization, whether it be political,
religious, labor union, or hobby, that assumes that if the leaders just did
their job correctly, all of that organization's goals would be achieved
already. Since they are not, it is taken as proof that the leadership is
lacking, or worse. It takes a moderately thick skin to work past this, but
it must be done for communication to work. When it doesn't work, or is
perceived as not working, people reach out and try new channels.
Enjoy your trip to KL7-land!
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:44:15 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -Operating
Survey
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <6D72AC6160324DA2A6B709B3ED8D4EF3(AT)ewlab.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Bill, I looked at your webpage and see that you
> MIGHT have a reason to have new birds up and
> running other than just as a member that wants to
> help out AMSAT through these trying times.
By the way folks, Bill Ress, N6GHZ sure gets a kudo from here.
Back when we were building RAFT and the MARScom satellites here
at the Academy, I was in a panic and needed help. I put out a
request on AMSAT-BB for a UHF to VHF linear downconverter for
AM! It needed to be flea powered and fit in a cubic inch or
so... Bill came out-of-the blue... Volunteered, and send us a
prototype, then a flight unit..
THen when we smoked it, he built another one! All at his own
expense!
And because MARScom had an antenna deployment anomoly (see video
on web page below) we never got to activate that UHF AM
receiver. I felt terrible for all the effort that Bill had put
forward and then not being able to see the experiment work...
But sometimes, I guess that is what space experimentation is all
about.
Even though we did not get to thank Bill in the light of a
successful experiment, I am remiss for not having publically
thanked him for his coming through for us way back then
(2005)... It is nice to know we have good microwave RF
engineers available to AMSAT...
Bob, WB4APR
RAFT Web Page:
http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/ande-raft-ops.html
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:10:47 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mounting a Primestar Dish
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<95ADAAE74104344D9B6F961E4DAD6598039FE192(AT)WHQMSG05.hrbinc.hrblock.net
>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I've got a G5500 rotor on its way to my QTH very soon, to become a part of my
station. I also have a Primestar dish, the really oblong one with a single
feed arm, that I want to mount on the rotor. I need some suggestions about
how to mount, balance, and calibrate the dish so I don't muck up the whole
thing.
Please reply off-list
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO (ex-N8AU)
?
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:11:51 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 repeaters
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <DCBD45F862AE4B09B2BA8AAE97B99B29(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
All,
Looks like all you need to do is prime the pump. The first 2/3rds of the
13:30 UTC pass here in EM65 was about as busy as it could be without
crowding. With one exception, everybody I worked was new in the log.
Unusual! The last third of the pass dragged, but when I switched over to
the other side, it was quiet there as well.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:21:44 -0700
From: "Rafael Valdez G." <rafavaldez(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2225 Miles - AO-51
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W3203C898530977A3DC5809DB850(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>I realize this doesn't set any records of any sort, but it sure > impressed
me: Contacted N3TL in Athens, GA this evening from Mira > Loma, CA on AO-51.
That's 2225 miles' distance on the ground.> > What a wonderful hobby....> >
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359> 909-241-7666
Clint,
With my "limited" station (FT530 + Arrow) I was impressed when I could make a
contact from DL55 to FN43 which is about 2400 miles; all that surprise was
erased when, for a very limited time (about 20 seconds), I could make a
contact to BP40 which is around 3100 miles and yes indeed is a wonderful
hobby...
Rafael Valdez Jr.
XE2RV (AT) DL55
http://sat-xe.blogspot.com
EX-XE2PWF
P Before printing, please think about your responsibility and commitment with
the ENVIRONMENT.
Antes de Imprimir, piensa entu responsabilidad y compromiso con el MEDIO
AMBIENTE
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:52:55 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: John Price <n4qwf1(AT)gmail.com>
Cc: "amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, w8iss(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <48860257.1000903(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello John,
Thanks for taking the time to express your views.
Regarding your comments about my employment and as stated in the ballot
statement, I run a RF.microwave components company. While some of the
products can be used in satellite applications, I seriously doubt that
could constitute any conflict of interest by my running for the board.
Quite the contrary, I think AMSAT could benefit from having more folks
like me with technology industry experience helping guide AMSAT's
future. After all, a satellite is one big hunk of state of the art
technology.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
,
John Price wrote:
> James, I wont be investing in 3 gig equipment. If I had plenty of
> money and lots of expertise all things would be possible. In the real
> world it just don't work that way. You are trying to sell Amateur
> Satellite service to the masses by offering them a chance to work
> something that they can't use or afford. The time and expense that is
> put into developing transponders that you can't buy a radio to work is
> not practical. Do you know that Yaesu has withdrawn from the satellite
> market? Kenwood offers the 1.2 gig module for there 2000 at a cost of
> an additional $500.00 making that radio over $2000.00. That is it as
> far as I know for off the shelf rigs for 1.2 gig. Downeast has a
> upconverter for about the same cost as the Kenwood module. Now in the
> real world that is a bunch to invest to add one band to your station.
>
> Your comment concerning appliance operators sure wont endear many new
> hams to Amsat. I have no formal training in electronics. I spent 25
> years as a Deputy Sheriff and knew nothing
> of ham radio or electronics when I got my ticket. Over the past 20
> years I have learned a little
> thanks to a bunch of wonderful skilled hams. Together with one of my
> friends a RF engineer who retired from GE we built a 1.2 gig station
> for field day a year ago out of a old Master III and a
> signal generator. Got the contact and was mighty proud. I have
> listened on L/u a few times since and have worked three contacts. If
> the 3 gig flys I might decide to do the same thing. My point
> is how many of those "appliance operators" are going to be able to do
> the same. We are going to have another satellite with a bunch of
> electronics that might get used by 10 people.
>
> My since of adventure is tempered by my practicallity I guess.
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM, James French <w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com>
wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 -0400, John Price wrote:
>>
>>> I for one am very opposed to the 3 and 10 gig transponder. I have seen
>>> little or no interest in the 1.2 uplink. Folks are not willing to
>>> spend $500.00 to work a transponder that is mostly quite and
>>> could go away over night like 2.4 did with AO-40. Did anyone listen to
>>> the L/u AO-51 on Field Day.
>>> While V/u was jammed I worked the first station I heard on L/u and
>>> there were maybe 5 others on that pass. I don't maintain 1.2 gig
>>> equipment here. It is not worth the investment.
>>>
>> And what would be the trigger for you to invest in the equipment? There
>> is NO GAURUNTEES that any of these new birds will get to orbit in one
>> peice. Look at AO-40. She was a GREAT birds at the beginning, then
>> something happened and all we had were a couple of uplinks with one
>> downlink.
>>
>> Where is your sense of adventure with experimenting with something new
>> and untested? How are you helping advance the Art of Amateur Radio and
>> Satellites if we are STUCK back in the stone ages with 2m and 70cm and
>> FM birds?
>>
>> I for one would and have invested in the higher bands as I am also using
>> that equipment for Rovering and some contesting which I have found that
>> I really like. I also use this equipment to talk around my area/state.
>> This equipment with a little modification is can also be used for when
>> we have a HEO or GEO satellite in orbit.
>>
>> I WANT more digital store-and-forward birds along with more Sideband
>> voice birds on bands OTHER than 2mand 70cm. Right now there is no
>> CHALLENGE in the current crop of satellites we have when all I can do
>> MOST of the time is get on and have enough time to get a GRID SQUARE
>> and a NAME/CALLSIGN of the person I am talking to. I want to be able
>> to hold a net where I can talk to a NUMBER of people and find out more
>> about everyone or ask for help and get it. I want to be able to send
>> video via these new birds of my latest project or of the 'kids' as they
>> operate. I want to be able to demonstrate what Amatuer radio is and can
>> do that the internet can't. I want to be able to TINKER on these new
>> birds with a new mode that I have either developed or have an interest
>> in. I want to be able to use that new microwave transverter for things
>> other than to talk to or see (video) locals.
>>
>> Where is EVERYONES sense of experimentation or did we as amateur radio
>> operators/licenses leave that at the door when we got licensed or are we
>> just content with what has been done and happy to sit on our laurels
>> and let the world leave us behind as a group that WILL die out in about
>> twenty/thirty years as we don't have any NEW blood to carry on with the
>> experimentation, thinking, and tinkering? Are we going to let the
>> INTERNET be the thing to determine how and where we go as a group?
>> Everyone on here gripes about how the internet is taking away everything
>> what about how we are making things interesting to entice these people
>> in the hobby and into Satellites? Where is the challenge anymore? I
>> want to be able to EXPERIMENT on thse new crop of birds, not just sit
>> around on 2m and 70cm and make a couple quick qso's to exchange grid
>> squares!!!
>>
>> Bill, I looked at your webpage and see that you MIGHT have a reason to
>> have new birds up and running other than just as a member that wants to
>> help out AMSAT through these trying times. I see no problem with that at
>> all as AMSAT has had others like you on the BoD before and they have
>> done a great job of not compromising their integrity as a Director. I
>> just don't see anything saying if you are a owner or an employee of this
>> company. Could you enlighten me and the others before I make a decision
>> on which three candidates are the best?
>>
>> James W8ISS - a voting member that has issues with the current crop of
>> APPLIANCE OPERATORS on the amateur bands!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:07:28 -0500
From: "K & R Yoksh" <yokshs(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2.4Ghz satellites and signals ?
To: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001801c8ec1d$6ca887d0$6401a8c0(AT)MAIN>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Hello Roger,
Thanks for posting this! I've got some tower work to do, and have been
waiting to get my grid dish
finished and tested before tilting the tower over. I've been waiting for
AO-51's S-band transmitter to
use as a test signal.
However, the geostationary and Molniya birds should be much easier to track!
I'd especially like to
find one that is similar in ERP to AO-40 or P3E.
I received this BBQ type dish a few years ago, and screened it with aluminum
screen the night before
AO-40 died. It did not have a feed or feed support, so I'll have to
experiment with a few different
designs.
The dish looks like the Andrew grid dishes, possibly model 26? I haven't
computed the focal length, or
anything on this dish yet. I used a homebrew helix to feed my Primestar dish
on AO-40, but might
want to try a patch feed on this dish.
I'm also not sure how I'm going to support the feed. I've read from folks
that used angle channel mounted to
the dish's center as a feed support, and have also noticed that my dish has
holes drilled in each corner,
possibly for feed support arms? I've also seen pictures of dishes where guys
used 2x2 square wood through the
dish, as both a feed support and also a place to hang counterweights.
I'd appreciate any thoughts on this dish, and also perhaps someone on the
list has found a satellite downlink
suitable for testing an AO-40 quality groundstation?
Thanks. 73,
Kyle Yoksh
K0KN
Olathe, Kansas
--- Original Message ---
Message: 13
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:34:03 -0400
From: "Roger Kolakowski"
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2.4Ghz satellites and signals ?
To: "Tim Tuck" ,"AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003c01c8eb25$ae247000$0200a8c0(AT)Tanguray>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Depending how wide your IF is...this list is fun:
http://www.uhf-satcom.com/
Roger
WA1KAT
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:20:28 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: John Price <n4qwf1(AT)gmail.com>, AMSAT-BB(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <488616DC.6050205(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi John,
Sorry John, I typed John when I meant James.
Thanks for your comments too!
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
John Price wrote:
> What statements about your employment are you referring to Bill. I was
> not responding to you but
> to James and his comments concerning my post. Please explain. 73's << John
N4QWF
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello John,
>>
>> Thanks for taking the time to express your views.
>>
>> Regarding your comments about my employment and as stated in the ballot
>> statement, I run a RF.microwave components company. While some of the
>> products can be used in satellite applications, I seriously doubt that
could
>> constitute any conflict of interest by my running for the board.
>>
>> Quite the contrary, I think AMSAT could benefit from having more folks like
>> me with technology industry experience helping guide AMSAT's future. After
>> all, a satellite is one big hunk of state of the art technology.
>>
>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>> ,
>> John Price wrote:
>>
>>> James, I wont be investing in 3 gig equipment. If I had plenty of
>>> money and lots of expertise all things would be possible. In the real
>>> world it just don't work that way. You are trying to sell Amateur
>>> Satellite service to the masses by offering them a chance to work
>>> something that they can't use or afford. The time and expense that is
>>> put into developing transponders that you can't buy a radio to work is
>>> not practical. Do you know that Yaesu has withdrawn from the satellite
>>> market? Kenwood offers the 1.2 gig module for there 2000 at a cost of
>>> an additional $500.00 making that radio over $2000.00. That is it as
>>> far as I know for off the shelf rigs for 1.2 gig. Downeast has a
>>> upconverter for about the same cost as the Kenwood module. Now in the
>>> real world that is a bunch to invest to add one band to your station.
>>>
>>> Your comment concerning appliance operators sure wont endear many new
>>> hams to Amsat. I have no formal training in electronics. I spent 25
>>> years as a Deputy Sheriff and knew nothing
>>> of ham radio or electronics when I got my ticket. Over the past 20
>>> years I have learned a little
>>> thanks to a bunch of wonderful skilled hams. Together with one of my
>>> friends a RF engineer who retired from GE we built a 1.2 gig station
>>> for field day a year ago out of a old Master III and a
>>> signal generator. Got the contact and was mighty proud. I have
>>> listened on L/u a few times since and have worked three contacts. If
>>> the 3 gig flys I might decide to do the same thing. My point
>>> is how many of those "appliance operators" are going to be able to do
>>> the same. We are going to have another satellite with a bunch of
>>> electronics that might get used by 10 people.
>>>
>>> My since of adventure is tempered by my practicallity I guess.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:45 PM, James French <w8iss(AT)wideopenwest.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 19:00 -0400, John Price wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I for one am very opposed to the 3 and 10 gig transponder. I have seen
>>>>> little or no interest in the 1.2 uplink. Folks are not willing to
>>>>> spend $500.00 to work a transponder that is mostly quite and
>>>>> could go away over night like 2.4 did with AO-40. Did anyone listen to
>>>>> the L/u AO-51 on Field Day.
>>>>> While V/u was jammed I worked the first station I heard on L/u and
>>>>> there were maybe 5 others on that pass. I don't maintain 1.2 gig
>>>>> equipment here. It is not worth the investment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> And what would be the trigger for you to invest in the equipment? There
>>>> is NO GAURUNTEES that any of these new birds will get to orbit in one
>>>> peice. Look at AO-40. She was a GREAT birds at the beginning, then
>>>> something happened and all we had were a couple of uplinks with one
>>>> downlink.
>>>>
>>>> Where is your sense of adventure with experimenting with something new
>>>> and untested? How are you helping advance the Art of Amateur Radio and
>>>> Satellites if we are STUCK back in the stone ages with 2m and 70cm and
>>>> FM birds?
>>>>
>>>> I for one would and have invested in the higher bands as I am also using
>>>> that equipment for Rovering and some contesting which I have found that
>>>> I really like. I also use this equipment to talk around my area/state.
>>>> This equipment with a little modification is can also be used for when
>>>> we have a HEO or GEO satellite in orbit.
>>>>
>>>> I WANT more digital store-and-forward birds along with more Sideband
>>>> voice birds on bands OTHER than 2mand 70cm. Right now there is no
>>>> CHALLENGE in the current crop of satellites we have when all I can do
>>>> MOST of the time is get on and have enough time to get a GRID SQUARE
>>>> and a NAME/CALLSIGN of the person I am talking to. I want to be able
>>>> to hold a net where I can talk to a NUMBER of people and find out more
>>>> about everyone or ask for help and get it. I want to be able to send
>>>> video via these new birds of my latest project or of the 'kids' as they
>>>> operate. I want to be able to demonstrate what Amatuer radio is and can
>>>> do that the internet can't. I want to be able to TINKER on these new
>>>> birds with a new mode that I have either developed or have an interest
>>>> in. I want to be able to use that new microwave transverter for things
>>>> other than to talk to or see (video) locals.
>>>>
>>>> Where is EVERYONES sense of experimentation or did we as amateur radio
>>>> operators/licenses leave that at the door when we got licensed or are we
>>>> just content with what has been done and happy to sit on our laurels
>>>> and let the world leave us behind as a group that WILL die out in about
>>>> twenty/thirty years as we don't have any NEW blood to carry on with the
>>>> experimentation, thinking, and tinkering? Are we going to let the
>>>> INTERNET be the thing to determine how and where we go as a group?
>>>> Everyone on here gripes about how the internet is taking away everything
>>>> what about how we are making things interesting to entice these people
>>>> in the hobby and into Satellites? Where is the challenge anymore? I
>>>> want to be able to EXPERIMENT on thse new crop of birds, not just sit
>>>> around on 2m and 70cm and make a couple quick qso's to exchange grid
>>>> squares!!!
>>>>
>>>> Bill, I looked at your webpage and see that you MIGHT have a reason to
>>>> have new birds up and running other than just as a member that wants to
>>>> help out AMSAT through these trying times. I see no problem with that at
>>>> all as AMSAT has had others like you on the BoD before and they have
>>>> done a great job of not compromising their integrity as a Director. I
>>>> just don't see anything saying if you are a owner or an employee of this
>>>> company. Could you enlighten me and the others before I make a decision
>>>> on which three candidates are the best?
>>>>
>>>> James W8ISS - a voting member that has issues with the current crop of
>>>> APPLIANCE OPERATORS on the amateur bands!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:03:44 -0600
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus(AT)mcn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bill Ress - N6GHz - Board Candidate -
Operating Survey
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
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At 08:52 AM 7/22/2008 -0700, Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
>Hello John,
>
>Thanks for taking the time to express your views.
>
>Regarding your comments about my employment and as stated in the ballot
>statement, I run a RF.microwave components company. While some of the
>products can be used in satellite applications, I seriously doubt that
>could constitute any conflict of interest by my running for the board.
>
>Quite the contrary, I think AMSAT could benefit from having more folks
>like me with technology industry experience helping guide AMSAT's
>future. After all, a satellite is one big hunk of state of the art
>technology.
>
>Regards...Bill - N6GHz
I voted for you.
KB7ADL
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