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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Might Not have Failed!! (Jim Jerzycke)
2. Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC (Dave hartzell)
3. Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC (Bill Ress)
4. ANS-216 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb)
5. My Mistake Folks!! (Bill Ress)
6. Re: WISP tracking problem. (Nuril -9W2NRL) (Nuril -9W2NRL)
7. Re: My Mistake Folks!! (Jim Jerzycke)
8. SpaceX statement on flight 3 anomaly (Lee McLamb)
9. PRESAT, NANOSAIL-D : Failure (Mineo Wakita)
10. somegood sat 9600 tnc settings! (Mr Jeffrey L Ross)
11. Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC (Joe)
12. Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC (Jim Jerzycke)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:51:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Might Not have Failed!!
To: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>, Armando Mercado
<am25544(AT)triton.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
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Nope, that's the video from Flight 2.
Jim KQ6EA
--- Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
> Hello all....
>
> Check out this video link.................
>
http://mfile.akamai.com/22165/wmv/spacex.download.akamai.com/22165/F1-002-
Launch-WebcastLow.asx
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
> Armando Mercado wrote:
> > There has been an apparent launch failure of
> Falcon 1.
> > Lift off was at 0333UTC. The "rocket cam" on the
> booster
> > showed the climb out then the video stream on the
> web site
> > went black. At 0338UTC launch control reported an
> > "anomaly" and details would be posted when they
> became
> > available.
> >
> > This would be SpaceX 3rd attempt to put a payload
> in orbit.
> > Spaceflight ain't easy.
> >
> > 73, Armando N8IGJ
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:01:29 -0700
From: "Dave hartzell" <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC
To: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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Jim,
While at the time I write this there has been no official word from
SpaceX, the anomaly just goes to show how difficult the launch
business is (and why it is so expensive).
There is certainly a learning curve that these companies must
experience. Without anomalies and failures at the beginning, bugs
don't get worked out of the systems and may linger, only to surface
when least expected.
SpaceX represents an amazing opportunity for low-cost access to space!
Hopefully AMSAT will have a spacecraft to launch in the near future!
73,
Dave
AF6KD
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net> wrote:
> OOOPS! Another "anomaly" for Mr. Musk and crew.
> Wonder what they're explanation will be *this* time?
> Jim KQ6EA
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:07:22 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC
To: Dave hartzell <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48953D0A.2090808(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
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Spaceflight Now has a running news commentary at....
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon/003/status.html
Tough break for SpaceX.
Sorry for my earlier "overly optimistic" video link to launch #2.
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
Dave hartzell wrote:
> Jim,
>
> While at the time I write this there has been no official word from
> SpaceX, the anomaly just goes to show how difficult the launch
> business is (and why it is so expensive).
>
> There is certainly a learning curve that these companies must
> experience. Without anomalies and failures at the beginning, bugs
> don't get worked out of the systems and may linger, only to surface
> when least expected.
>
> SpaceX represents an amazing opportunity for low-cost access to space!
> Hopefully AMSAT will have a spacecraft to launch in the near future!
>
> 73,
> Dave
> AF6KD
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> OOOPS! Another "anomaly" for Mr. Musk and crew.
>> Wonder what they're explanation will be *this* time?
>> Jim KQ6EA
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:08:09 -0400
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-216 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-216
**************************************************************
*** 2008 AMSAT Space Symposium and Annual General Meeting ***
*** October 24-26 in Atlanta, Georgia ***
**************************************************************
ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America,
The
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a
worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital
Amateur Radio satellites.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor(AT)amsat.org
In this edition:
* Falcon-1 Launches from Kwajalein with Three Satellites
* Delfi-C3 / DO-64 Status Update
* FO-29 Analog Transponder Observations
* AMSAT-UK Colloquium Presentations Online
* AMSAT-NA Space Symposium Second Call for Papers
* AMSAT Awards
* ARISS Status - 28 July 2008
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.01
Falcon-1 Launches from Kwajalein with Three Satellites
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.01
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.01
SpaceX's Falcon-1 rocket lifted off from the Kwajalein atoll on 03 August 2008
at 0334 UTC. On board was the Trailblazer satellite for the Jumpstart Program
of the United States Department of Defense?s Operationally Responsive Space
Office (ORS). Also on board where two triple-cubesats from NASA which have
beacons in the amateur 70cm band. Unfortunately, an anomaly occured
approximately 2 minutes 20 seconds into the flight.
[ANS thanks SpaceX for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.02
Delfi-C3 / DO-64 Status Update
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.02
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.02
Wouter Jan Ubbels, PE4WJ, provided the following
status update of the Delfi-C3 /
DO-64 satellite on behalf of the Delfi-C3 team.
1. We have concluded the first three months of science mission with
great success. A big word of thanks to all amateur radio operators
around the world for collecting and forwarding telemetry, sending
reception reports and observations, and thanks for all the tremendous
support we have received. As of today, we have collected 396564 AX.25
frames through the worldwide network... a truly amazing number. Thank
you all so much.
2. Delfi-C3 has been switched to permanent transponder mode during the
10:00 UTC pass on July 29th over the Delfi-C3 ground station in
The Netherlands. This means that the spacecraft now boots in
transponder mode as soon as the spacecraft exits eclipse. This was
verified by a successful OBC database dump shortly after that.
3. We plan to switch the satellite back into either basic or science
mode, approx. once every 2 weeks for short times during passes over
our ground station for housekeeping purposes. During these passes
either the 145.870 MHz or 145.930 MHz downlink will be on transmitting
1200 baud BPSK, and the transponder will then be off. We would like to
encourage everyone to forward telemetry using RASCAL in the usual way
during these passes. Longer periods of BPSK telemetry will be
announced on the AMSAT-BB.
4. Reports have indicated a slight frequency offset of the
transponder, i.e. an uplink of 435.556MHz corresponds to 145.900MHz in
the downlink passband. This was actually known before launch, and is
caused by a slight frequency offset in one of the spacecraft's local
oscillators. The video on YouTube is a video from the first
transponder contact using our "flatsat" transponder prototype in early
2007, which is not the same as the flight model. However, the flatsat
prototype also showed a slight frequency offset, as G0MRF pointed out.
5. The transponder mode beacon is at 145.870MHz, approximately 10dB below
PEP, transmitting a CW beacon message, followed by a commemorative
Sputnik message consisting of 6 dits. Actually, the CW beacon is
transmitted using Double Sideband, there are two CW carriers 1200Hz
apart. (Guess where that number comes from hi:)
6. Reports on the transponder's operation are more than welcome,
either on the AMSAT-BB (which is read by us on a daily basis) or directly to
info at delfic3.nl
Having said all this, the team is happy to open the transponder for
use, and wishes you good DX. Enjoy!
73 on behalf of the Delfi-C3 team,
Wouter Jan Ubbels PE4WJ
[ANS thanks Wouter, PE4WJ, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.03
FO-29 Analog Transponder Observations
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.03
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.03
Domenico, I8CVS, provided the following observation of FO-29's analog
transponder:
Following suggestions of my friend Mak, SV1BSX, I tried FO-29 the
night of 27 July during the South bound orbit 58978. AOS for me
in JN70ES was at 00:06 UTC and FO-29 was in sun light.
I was alone into the passband and my return signal was very strong above
my noise floor with appoximately only 10 watt on a 13 dBi crossed yagi
RHCP / LHCP (about 200 watt EIRP)
The SSB return was very clean and without FMing with the usual need to
switch RHCP to LHCP time to time to get the best signal strength
At 00:15 UTC FO-29 started to experience the eclipse as per InstanTrack
but no sign of reduction of my return signal or FMing was noted.
From 00:15 to 00:21 until my LOS the satellite was over Africa and well
in full eclipse for about 6 minutes but my own return signal was still clear
ad strong without any sign of FMing. It seems that the battery is
working and as far I know the satellite performance seems to be nominal.
The CW beacon was ON all the time.
The transponder is very sensitive so please refrain from using high power
because 200 watt EIRP is more than enough.
I thank very much Mak, SV1BSX, for sending to me the results of his
experience the previous day which confirm the results that I got. Both
confirm that FO-29 seems to be alive and well.
We don't know what JARL did to resurrect this beautiful satellite but
while she will last we have another real CW and SSB satellite to work.
Congratulations to JARL
[ANS thanks Domenico, I8CVS, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.04
AMSAT-UK Colloquium Presentations Online
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.04
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.04
Presentations from the AMSAT-UK Colloquium have been added to the to the
AMSAT-UK website as
slide shows. There are a couple that have been held back at the
request of their presenters.
Currently there are 15 online at:
http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/664/235/
You will find some of the 2007 presentations there as well.
[ANS thanks John for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.05
AMSAT-NA Space Symposium Second Call for Papers
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.05
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.05
This is the second call for papers for the 2008 AMSAT Space Symposium and
Annual Meeting to be held October 24-26, 2008 in Atlanta, Georgia.
Proposals for papers, symposium presentations, and poster presentations are
invited on any topic of interest to the amateur satellite program. An emphasis
for this year is an educational outreach to middle and high school students.
Another topic if interest is using amateur satellite tracking systems to
monitor deep space network objects.
In particular, papers on the following topics are solicited:
? Students & Education
? ARISS
? AO-51
? P3E
? Eagle
? Deep Space Network monitoring
? Any additional satellite-related topics.
We request a one-page abstract as soon as possible. Camera ready copy on paper
or in electronic form will be due by September 1, 2008 for inclusion in the
printed symposium proceedings. Papers received after this date may not be
included in the printed proceedings.
Abstracts and papers should be sent to n8fgv(AT)amsat.org
[ANS thanks Dan, N8FGV, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.06
AMSAT Awards
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.06
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
Augugst 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.06
We would like to welcome the following to the satellite community. They
have made their first satellite contact and are now members of the AMSAT
Satellite Communicators Club.
Bart Tichelaar, KE5GUR
Supun Perera, VE4WSP
The following has earned the AMSAT South Africa Communications
Achievement Award.
Rob Rousseau, KI4BKE #US122
The following has earned the AMSAT Sexagesimal Award for 60 contacts.
Doug Papay, KD8CAO #146
To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
http://www.amsatnet.com
[ANS thanks Bruce, KK5DO, for the above information]
/EX
SB SAT (AT) AMSAT $ANS-216.07
ARISS Status - 28 July 2008
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 216.07
From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
August 3, 2008
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-216.07
1. European Space Camp 2008 Contact Successful
On Thursday, July 24, youth attending the European Space Camp 2008 in Zanka,
Hungary participated in an Amateur Radio on the International Space Station
(ARISS) contact. Astronaut Greg Chamitoff, KD5PKZ, answered the six questions
asked of him as 120 students looked on. The audio from this event was fed into
the EchoLink AMSAT (101 377) conference room server and received 8 connections
from 7 countries including Hungary, Switzerland, Belgium and the U.S. It was
also fed into the EchoLink JK1ZRW (277 208) server. The audio file may be
found
on the ARISS-Europe Web site. Go to:
http://www.ariss-eu.org/Zanka_2008_07_24.mp3
2. ARRL QST Articles on ARISS Activities
The American Radio Relay League (ARRL) published two items covering Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) related news in its August
issue of QST.
A column called "Hams Head into Space" (page 55) included amateur radio
activities that Greg Chamitoff, KD5PKZ, plans to take part in and also
activities in which Garrett Reisman, KE5HAE, participated.
The column "75, 50 and 25 Years Ago" on page 102 showed the QST August 1983
cover with astronaut Owen Garriott, W5LFL's picture operating the radios from
space for the very first space amateur radio contacts ever.
[ANS thanks Carol, KB3LKI, for the above information]
/EX
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the President's
Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining donors to AMSAT Project
Funds, will be eligible to receive additional benefits. Application forms are
available from the AMSAT Office.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:33:18 -0700
From: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] My Mistake Folks!!
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4895350E.10202(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Looks like this is video from the 2nd SpaceX launch which ended in a
premature second stage shut down.
I guess I was hoping too hard for a success!!
Regards...Bill - N6GHz
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:29:09 +0800
From: "Nuril -9W2NRL" <9w2nrl(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WISP tracking problem. (Nuril -9W2NRL)
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<8ee4b3050808022229n116cfb79m9c4b061caa3982b6(AT)mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear all,
My problem is already solved. Thanks
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: My Mistake Folks!!
To: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <942966.66064.qm(AT)web80603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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That was the flight where the first stage didn't
separate cleanly, and bumped the 2nd stage nozzle.
They also suffered from some propellant slosh in the
second stage, resulting in the 2nd stage "losing it",
and tumbling. They cut the web video off just as it
was apparent they had a major problem, but the
complete video leaked out, and it's pretty interesting
to watch.
Jim KQ6EA
--- Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
> Looks like this is video from the 2nd SpaceX launch
> which ended in a
> premature second stage shut down.
>
> I guess I was hoping too hard for a success!!
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 01:36:26 -0400
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os(AT)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SpaceX statement on flight 3 anomaly
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200808030136.27002.ku4os(AT)cfl.rr.com>
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Plan Going Forward
It was obviously a big disappointment not to reach orbit on this flight
[Falcon 1, Flight 3]. On the plus side, the flight of our first stage, with
the new Merlin 1C engine that will be used in Falcon 9, was picture perfect.
Unfortunately, a problem occurred with stage separation, causing the stages
to be held together. This is under investigation and I will send out a note
as soon as we understand exactly what happened.
The most important message I?d like to send right now is that SpaceX will not
skip a beat in execution going forward. We have flight four of Falcon 1
almost ready for flight and flight five right behind that. I have also given
the go ahead to begin fabrication of flight six. Falcon 9 development will
also continue unabated, taking into account the lessons learned with Falcon
1. We have made great progress this past week with the successful nine
engine firing.
As a precautionary measure to guard against the possibility of flight 3 not
reaching orbit, SpaceX recently accepted a significant investment. Combined
with our existing cash reserves, that ensures we will have more than
sufficient funding on hand to continue launching Falcon 1 and develop Falcon
9 and Dragon. There should be absolutely zero question that SpaceX will
prevail in reaching orbit and demonstrating reliable space transport. For my
part, I will never give up and I mean never.
Thanks for your hard work and now on to flight four.
--Elon--
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:14:04 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PRESAT, NANOSAIL-D : Failure
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <CCC8F5494650C4ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
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No.TypNo Type Date LS Payload
-----------------------------------------------------------------
3 1 Falcon-1 03.08.08 F Om Trailblazer / PreSat /
Nanosail D / Celestis 07
planned launches
4 2 Falcon-1 xx.xx.08 Om RazakSat 1 / Cubesats
Falcon-1 xx.3Q.09 Om Argo
Falcon-1 xx.4Q.09 Om (SpaceDev)
Failures:
3: Stage separation failure (Version 1st flight, Failure)
Launch Sites
CC Cape Canaveral SLC-36A
Om Omelek Island, Kwajalein, Marshall Islands
Va Vandenberg SLC-3W
Last update: 03.08.2008
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:34:38 -0400
From: "Mr Jeffrey L Ross" <radiooperator(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] somegood sat 9600 tnc settings!
To: "amsat" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000301c8f565$4c3a4b90$6501a8c0(AT)hamshackcomputer>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
hi folks, need some good sat 9600 baud tnc settings.
please place them here for all, tks
p.s. just some of the main ones like frack,maxframe,etc, would be good.
tks in advance
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:32:55 -0500
From: Joe <nss(AT)mwt.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC
To: Bill Ress <bill(AT)hsmicrowave.com>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <4895C197.3080508(AT)mwt.net>
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Seems weird,
In the audio someone linked to the second stage seperation seemed to go
just fine and second stage igntioon also.
if there was a proble with the seperation you would think they would
know immediately when second tried to light up.
Joe WB9SBD
Bill Ress wrote:
>Spaceflight Now has a running news commentary at....
>
>http://www.spaceflightnow.com/falcon/003/status.html
>
>Tough break for SpaceX.
>
>Sorry for my earlier "overly optimistic" video link to launch #2.
>
>Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
>Dave hartzell wrote:
>
>
>>Jim,
>>
>>While at the time I write this there has been no official word from
>>SpaceX, the anomaly just goes to show how difficult the launch
>>business is (and why it is so expensive).
>>
>>There is certainly a learning curve that these companies must
>>experience. Without anomalies and failures at the beginning, bugs
>>don't get worked out of the systems and may linger, only to surface
>>when least expected.
>>
>>SpaceX represents an amazing opportunity for low-cost access to space!
>> Hopefully AMSAT will have a spacecraft to launch in the near future!
>>
>>73,
>>Dave
>>AF6KD
>>
>>On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>OOOPS! Another "anomaly" for Mr. Musk and crew.
>>>Wonder what they're explanation will be *this* time?
>>>Jim KQ6EA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:32:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New SpaceX launch time 00:00UTC
To: Dave hartzell <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <538396.37689.qm(AT)web80604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I agree. I work for a major launch services provider,
and the saying "If It Was Easy, Everybody Would Be
Doing It" is heard all the time.
We all wish him well, but stuff like this happens a
lot in the beginning.
Jim
--- Dave hartzell <hartzell(AT)gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> While at the time I write this there has been no
> official word from
> SpaceX, the anomaly just goes to show how difficult
> the launch
> business is (and why it is so expensive).
>
> There is certainly a learning curve that these
> companies must
> experience. Without anomalies and failures at the
> beginning, bugs
> don't get worked out of the systems and may linger,
> only to surface
> when least expected.
>
> SpaceX represents an amazing opportunity for
> low-cost access to space!
> Hopefully AMSAT will have a spacecraft to launch in
> the near future!
>
> 73,
> Dave
> AF6KD
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Jim Jerzycke
> <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net> wrote:
> > OOOPS! Another "anomaly" for Mr. Musk and crew.
> > Wonder what they're explanation will be *this*
> time?
> > Jim KQ6EA
> >
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