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Today's Topics:
1. OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Dee)
3. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
4. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Jim Jerzycke)
5. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
6. More than Just Sats Lost Last Week (Clint Bradford)
7. brain picking time (w7lrd(AT)comcast.net)
8. More than Sats Lost Last Week (Clint Bradford)
9. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net)
10. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
11. Reference locking an IC-910 (Tim Tuck)
12. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
13. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (i8cvs)
14. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Clint Bradford)
15. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (Dave hartzell)
16. Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...? (John Franke)
17. Re: brain picking time (Greg D.)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:37:04 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for "Orbital Satellite
Carrying Amateur Radio."
Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?"
This is actually more important than it sounds...(grin)
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:11:41 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Clint Bradford wrote:
>Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for "Orbital Satellite
>Carrying Amateur Radio."
>
>Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?"
>
>This is actually more important than it sounds...(grin)
>
>Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
>909-241-7666
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>
According to the 20 plus locations I just googled, it is-
"Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio"
This is what I also remember it being called.
73,
Dee, NB2F
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:18:12 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Dee <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Thank you, Dee!
Here's a presentation from the ARRL with OrbitING...
Amateur Satellites
... the earliest days of space travel. These satellites are known as ?
OSCARs??Orbiting
Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio. The first Amateur Radio satellite ...
www.arrl.org/FandES/ead/materials/Amateur-Satellites.ppt
And here's one with OrbitAL...
Keeping Track of OSCAR: A Short History Amateur Radio?s ... [PDF]
... eventually became chairman of the Project OSCAR--Or- bital
Satellite Carrying Amateur
Radio--Association located in California, and Stoner wrote the first ...
www.arrl.org/members-only/tis/info/pdf/9911065.pdf
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:11 PM, Dee wrote:
>
> According to the 20 plus locations I just googled, it is-
> "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio"
> This is what I also remember it being called.
> 73,
> Dee, NB2F
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <252421.23039.qm(AT)web80604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The AMSAT glossary lists it as "Orbiting".
The "Space Today" history of Amateur satellites lists
it as "Orbital".
http://www.spacetoday.org/Satellites/Hamsats/HamsatsBasics.html
Guess I didn't help you much!
Maybe one of the real Old Timers can chime in here!
73, Jim
--- Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net> wrote:
> Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for
> "Orbital Satellite
> Carrying Amateur Radio."
>
> Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur
> Radio?"
>
> This is actually more important than it
> sounds...(grin)
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
> 909-241-7666
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are
> those of the author.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:30:23 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <5752FF97-C1A6-42A3-8E2F-CFEFD8BA72F4(AT)earthlink.net>
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Damnation...another old article with "OrbitAL" ...
Space&Beyond: The First Repeater in the Sky
By Anthony R. Curtis, K3RXK
Contributing Editor
March 6, 2002
Why do we call our satellites OSCAR? Because the first four Amateur
Radio satellite projects that flew in 1961-1965 were managed by
pioneering hams in a US West Coast group known as Project OSCAR--an
acronym that stands for Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio.
AMSAT, the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation, was formed in 1969, by
an East Coast group wanting to build and fly hamsats.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:35:26 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] More than Just Sats Lost Last Week
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <F599801E-5ED7-41FA-B22A-BA7BDF792E64(AT)earthlink.net>
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Not only were three satellites lost in the SpaceX problem last week,
but so were ashes of 208 people...including "Scotty" of Star Trek
fame, James Doohan.
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/04/unfulfilled-space-fu.html
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:35:30 +0000
From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] brain picking time
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org (AMSAT-BB)
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Hello all
I have a couple of questions of some things I am working on-
Has anyone used that expanding foam that you use for filling holes and gaps in
walls etc. I am trying to use it for helix support inside some PVC pipe for a
2.4Ghz 6 turn helix. Once expanded it provides a rigid support for the coil.
It stays cool in a microwave oven. I have no idea what if any the properties
are regarding microwave applications. As with most of my efforts I just build
and try.
Next question- which probably would be more aimed at a EME bb. I have a 12
foot TVRO I am building a patch feed for 1296, and feed it through 50 feet of
LMR400 to my IC-1271A. I want to see if I am able to "hear" EME signals. Of
course if I am able to, you can guess what my next effort will be. This will
be a cheapie effort as I am only using stuff I already have. I do have a
KJ6KO L band 70 watt amp.
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
--
"if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:57:25 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] More than Sats Lost Last Week
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <2D2B4E7F-7ED0-485F-A789-34D9B96FE235(AT)earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Not only were three satellites lost in the SpaceX problem last week,
but so were ashes of 208 people...
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/04/unfulfilled-space-fu.html
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:46:15 +0000
From: n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<080520080046.28508.4897A2D7000B2DCC00006F5C22218675169B0A02D2089B9A019C
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I have only ever heard the acronym explained as Orbiting Satellite Carrying
Amateur Radio.
I didn't think satellites actually earned "OSCAR" status until they officially
reached orbit and, thus WERE orbiting.
Please correct me if that's not accurate.
73,
Tim - N3TL
-------------- Original message from Clint Bradford
<clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>: --------------
> Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for "Orbital Satellite
> Carrying Amateur Radio."
>
> Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?"
>
> This is actually more important than it sounds...(grin)
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
> 909-241-7666
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 10
Date: 04 Aug 2008 18:11:00 -0700
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: <gouldsmi(AT)bellsouth.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <3300718266.648391(AT)smtpauth.earthlink.net>
The OLDER the printed article, the more likely it states, 'Orbital.'
Of the several pre-1990 articles I have found, the vast majority use
'Orbital.'
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:23:33 +1000
From: "Tim Tuck" <tim.tuck(AT)penrith.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reference locking an IC-910
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4897AB95.1090709(AT)penrith.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi all,
I'd like to hear from anyone who has reference locked the LO of their 910.
I know of Rex, VK7MO who built his own VCXO and locked that with a ReflockII
and
used it to lock his 910 but I was wondering if anyone else has done this and
how
you achieved it.
http://home.exetel.com.au/dwsmith/riglock/VK7MO_GPS_Locking_the_IC%20910-H.pdf
Off-the-shelf solutions would be good since my "go build it" time is very
limited but that doesn't mean I wont build a solution :)
thanks
Tim
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:23:14 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Dee <morsesat(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
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Fred Hicks, W6EJU, didn?t have a rocket, but he did have the
requisite enthusiasm and, having worked for a missile contractor
and witnessing six satellite launches, some background in the
field. He contacted Stoner and the dream began to be take shape.
Hicks eventually became chairman of the Project OSCAR?Orbital
Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?Association located in
California, and Stoner wrote the first major article about amateur
satellites, published in the February 1961 issue of QST. ?Be assured,?
he wrote, ?that this is not an April Fool joke.?
From the November, 1999 issue of QST Magazine: Keeping Track of OSCAR
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:41:47 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <007501c8f6a4$ce6a46c0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
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Hi Clint, K6LCS / KAF3359
The Glossary of the book " The satellite Experimenter's Handbook
by Martin Davidoff, K2UBC 2nd Edition published by the ARRL
writes:
"Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio"
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 1:37 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR - Acronym for...?
> Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for "Orbital Satellite
> Carrying Amateur Radio."
>
> Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio?"
>
> This is actually more important than it sounds...(grin)
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
> 909-241-7666
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:43:21 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: Gould Smith <gouldsmi(AT)bellsouth.net>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <01794C53-8C9B-4373-930B-C9FA9A005743(AT)earthlink.net>
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OK...we cannot trust, necessarily, the ARTICLE you cited... But the
OSCAR site - and its new blog - has "Orbiting..." in its headline/logo!
So many of those original amateurs are SKs...
OK...Back to normal ops. THANK YOU ALL.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Gould Smith wrote:
> The Project OSCAR group coined the term OSCAR,
>
> http://projectoscar.wordpress.com/project-oscar-history/oscar-i-newspaper-
article/
>
> They are the authority on what the O stands for.
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:44:40 -0700
From: "Dave hartzell" <hartzell(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<1c096fd70808041944h39ef2770iaae728b8a99db58(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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I'm in contact with a few folks that might be able to shed some light on
this...
I guess this is somewhat important when referring to Project OSCAR in
academic or historical media, or when referring to the proper name of
the first OSCARs, but in daily use it isn't that critical.
One of our past presidents (Ross Forbes, K6GFJ) thinks it is
"orbiting". We can ping Lance Ginner, K6GSJ as well.
In addition, we have a lot of old archive materials, plus our IRS
paperwork, which might be helpful.
73,
Dave
AF6KD
Board Member of Project OSCAR
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Clint Bradford
<clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net> wrote:
> The OLDER the printed article, the more likely it states, 'Orbital.'
>
> Of the several pre-1990 articles I have found, the vast majority use
'Orbital.'
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> 909-241-7666
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45:42 -0400
From: "John Franke" <jmfranke(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
To: "Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>, "Clint Bradford"
<clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <01c501c8f6a5$5b295010$1e89a662(AT)youre7075dc078>
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The January 1962 issue of CQ announced the launch of OSCAR (later called
OSCAR 1) and says Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio. However, page
32 of the February 1962 issue shows a image of a "Father's List," with OSCAR
Logo saying Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio. The list was flown
onboard the satellite. So, with the letterhead on the satellite, I tend to
accept Orbital Satellite Carrying Amateur Radio.
John WA4WDL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea(AT)pacbell.net>
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>; <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR - Acronym for...?
> The AMSAT glossary lists it as "Orbiting".
> The "Space Today" history of Amateur satellites lists
> it as "Orbital".
> http://www.spacetoday.org/Satellites/Hamsats/HamsatsBasics.html
> Guess I didn't help you much!
> Maybe one of the real Old Timers can chime in here!
> 73, Jim
>
> --- Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Some Web sites state that OSCAR is an acronym for
>> "Orbital Satellite
>> Carrying Amateur Radio."
>>
>> Or is it "Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur
>> Radio?"
>>
>> This is actually more important than it
>> sounds...(grin)
>>
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
>> 909-241-7666
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are
>> those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the
>> amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings:
>> http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:47:17 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: brain picking time
To: <w7lrd(AT)comcast.net>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W468ABC698F0160AB86549EA97B0(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Bob,
Interesting idea. I think that the foam insulation, even though it doesn't
absorb microwave energy, will alter the electrical characteristics of the
helix. So, the dimensions - the diameter and/or the turn pitch - will need to
be changed. It certainly would make for a durable antenna, however.
Good luck,
Greg KO6TH
----------------------------------------
> From: w7lrd(AT)comcast.net
> To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 00:35:30 +0000
> Subject: [amsat-bb] brain picking time
>
> Hello all
> I have a couple of questions of some things I am working on-
> Has anyone used that expanding foam that you use for filling holes and gaps
in walls etc. I am trying to use it for helix support inside some PVC pipe
for a 2.4Ghz 6 turn helix. Once expanded it provides a rigid support for the
coil. It stays cool in a microwave oven. I have no idea what if any the
properties are regarding microwave applications. As with most of my efforts I
just build and try.
>
> Next question- which probably would be more aimed at a EME bb. I have a 12
foot TVRO I am building a patch feed for 1296, and feed it through 50 feet of
LMR400 to my IC-1271A. I want to see if I am able to "hear" EME signals. Of
course if I am able to, you can guess what my next effort will be. This will
be a cheapie effort as I am only using stuff I already have. I do have a
KJ6KO L band 70 watt amp.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Seattle
>
> --
> "if this were easy, everyone would be doing it"
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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