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Today's Topics:

1.  Folded Dipole Dimensions (Reicher, James)
2.  NASA tells students about Amateur Radio (Tom Clark, K3IO)
3. Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions (i8cvs)
4. Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions (Jeff Moore)
5. Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions (Kevin)
6.  SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact (Ken Owen)
7. Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions (Jeff Moore)
8. Re: SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact
(Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
9.  TNC Problem (Gregory Dober)
10. Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions (i8cvs)
11. Re: SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact (Ken Owen)
12. Re: TNC Problem (SV1BSX)
13.  help (w3vvp)
14. Re: TNC Problem (Greg Dober)
15. Re: help (i8cvs)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:56:10 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
	<95ADAAE74104344D9B6F961E4DAD659803DC5ABB(AT)WHQMSG05.hrbinc.hrblock.net
>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I'm trying to home-brew a pair of crossed yagis; one for 2 meters and one for
70cm but I need help with the dimensions.
I want to use folded dipoles for the driven elements.
What size should they be to be resonant at:
1.  145.800 MHz
2. 435.000 MHz

73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
?
Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.




------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:43:57 -0400
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <tom.k3io(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  NASA tells students about Amateur Radio
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48A3478D.6020509(AT)verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I sent this a couple of days ago, but for some reason it never appeared.
See -- these thing happen even to members of the Board!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	NASA tells students about Amateur Radio
Date: 	Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:10:46 -0400
From: 	Tom Clark, K3IO <k3io(AT)verizon.net>
Reply-To: 	k3io(AT)verizon.net
To: 	AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
CC: 	AMSAT BoD <bod(AT)AMSAT.ORG>, AMSAT Officers <officers(AT)amsat.org>



We have all heard that amateurs on the Space Station (ARISS=Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station) frequently have "direct from
orbit" contact with students in schools around the world. To help
prepare the students for an ARISS experience, NASA has generated a
series of teaching modules for the students. They have three different
packages available suitable for students in K-4, 5-8 and 9-12 grades
(for folks outside the US, "K" is Kindergarten at age ~5, and Grades
1-12 are for ages ~6-18). I think that the AMSAT folks should see how
amateur radio can be introduced to children -- the packages are
described and available from NASA's Digital Learning Network (DLN)
<http://dln.nasa.gov/dln/> at
http://dln.nasa.gov/dln/content/catalog/details/?cid=634.

I found them to be very interesting. Perhaps you know some local
teachers who could make use of these lesson plans.

73, Tom



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:38:52 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>, "AMSAT-BB"
	<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001d01c8fd8c$fb2df140$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Jim, W0HV

In a separate email I have sent to you a drawing with all size and
information to build a 2 meters and 70 cm folded dipole with  4/1 coax
balun.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Folded Dipole Dimensions


I'm trying to home-brew a pair of crossed yagis; one for 2 meters and one
for 70cm but I need help with the dimensions.
I want to use folded dipoles for the driven elements.
What size should they be to be resonant at:
1.  145.800 MHz
2. 435.000 MHz

73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO

Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.


_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:06:30 -0700
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002b01c8fd90$d80b3430$f48764d0(AT)TNTCENTER>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

What about the rest of us???

Jeff  --  KE7ACY
CN94

----- Original Message -----
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-
bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:38 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions


Hi Jim, W0HV

In a separate email I have sent to you a drawing with all size and
information to build a 2 meters and 70 cm folded dipole with  4/1 coax
balun.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Folded Dipole Dimensions


I'm trying to home-brew a pair of crossed yagis; one for 2 meters and one
for 70cm but I need help with the dimensions.
I want to use folded dipoles for the driven elements.
What size should they be to be resonant at:
1.  145.800 MHz
2. 435.000 MHz

73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO

Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.


_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:24:32 -0700
From: "Kevin" <kevinbbb(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>, "AMSAT-BB"
	<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5A9E812075BC440CAB7A59AA5F98AFB3(AT)acerfcafbfa90d>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=11183

Kevin N6CWF Phx Az

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:06 PM
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions

> What about the rest of us???
>
> Jeff  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
> To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>; "AMSAT-BB"
> <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:38 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
>
>
> Hi Jim, W0HV
>
> In a separate email I have sent to you a drawing with all size and
> information to build a 2 meters and 70 cm folded dipole with  4/1 coax
> balun.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:56 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Folded Dipole Dimensions
>
>
> I'm trying to home-brew a pair of crossed yagis; one for 2 meters and one
> for 70cm but I need help with the dimensions.
> I want to use folded dipoles for the driven elements.
> What size should they be to be resonant at:
> 1.  145.800 MHz
> 2. 435.000 MHz
>
> 73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
>
> Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright
> until you hear them speak.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:40:18 -0700
From: "Ken Owen" <n6kth(AT)n6kth.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <006801c8fd95$9096b750$2e01a8c0(AT)CIR2>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"


Hi folks:

I would greatly appreciate your help with using SATPC32 for a contact with
the International Space Station this Tuesday.  I have been using the program
successfully with satellites, but it does not seem to be tracking the ISS
correctly.  When I use SatPC32ISS, I notice that the AOS time is 5 to 10
minutes different from what is reported on the NASA "real time" tracking web
site.  Since the ISS has been quiet lately, there seems to be no way for me
to confirm if I'm tracking it OK.  I've updated the Keps through the main
program's "Satellites" menu.

I thought that I would have a little more time to work on this, but they
just moved us up in the schedule!

Any advice would be most helpful.

Ken, N6KTH



------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:57:05 -0700
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <009b01c8fd97$e8fa83c0$f48764d0(AT)TNTCENTER>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

The correct link should be:

http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=4323

Jeff  --  KE7ACY
CN94

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin" <kevinbbb(AT)cox.net>


http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=11183

Kevin N6CWF Phx Az

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>

> What about the rest of us???
>
> Jeff  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
> To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>; "AMSAT-BB"
> <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:38 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
>
>
> Hi Jim, W0HV
>
> In a separate email I have sent to you a drawing with all size and
> information to build a 2 meters and 70 cm folded dipole with  4/1 coax
> balun.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico



------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:35:24 -0500
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact
To: "Ken Owen" <n6kth(AT)n6kth.com>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<A2862DA1C49F4145AF6C2A452829403501C9185D(AT)NDJSEVS21A.ndc.nasa.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

If you have been doing comparisons today, your keps are old. The ISS did a
major reboost early today and that will cause your times to be off. It will
take a bit for the predicts to catch up but you need to have the latest keps
downloaded for the day of the contact.

If you download a new set this weekend, you should see the predicts line up
with the live NASA telemetry.

Kenneth - N5VHO

________________________________

From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org on behalf of Ken Owen
Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 5:40 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact




Hi folks:

I would greatly appreciate your help with using SATPC32 for a contact with
the International Space Station this Tuesday.  I have been using the program
successfully with satellites, but it does not seem to be tracking the ISS
correctly.  When I use SatPC32ISS, I notice that the AOS time is 5 to 10
minutes different from what is reported on the NASA "real time" tracking web
site.  Since the ISS has been quiet lately, there seems to be no way for me
to confirm if I'm tracking it OK.  I've updated the Keps through the main
program's "Satellites" menu.

I thought that I would have a little more time to work on this, but they
just moved us up in the schedule!

Any advice would be most helpful.

Ken, N6KTH

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:36:20 -0400
From: "Gregory Dober" <gjdober(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  TNC Problem
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000001c8fda5$c5cf2fa0$6501a8c0(AT)Uniblab>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Went back to attempting to work digital modes on the birds.  Hooked a new
Timewave 9600 and was able to communicate immediately by hyperterminal.  I
tried a loopback test and couldn't connect to my callsign though the TNC
would light TX.  Went to an APRS program, connected the TNC to my Icom and
was able to copy stations.  When I would transmit, TNC, radio all keyed up
but I heard no packets on another radio.  Just a quick empty carrier.



Borrowed my friends AEA PK 900.same problem.



Never had this problem on past TNC's or laptops.  The only difference is
they all had direct serial connections to the laptop.  The Dell Inspiron is
about 6 months old and uses the serial to usb connections.  I have two
Belkins for the com ports.  Are some serial to usb connections problematic
for the TNC?  This is the only change I can note since I last worked packet.
APRS and digital modes about a year ago on an older computer with a serial
connector.



Perplexed as I awaited GO-32.



Greg

N3MVF



------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:48:30 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
To: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>, "AMSAT-BB"
	<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <003f01c8fda7$799a9a00$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Jeff, KE7ACY

I can send a copy to everyone is interested on it and send a request
off line

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter(AT)gmail.com>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:06 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions


> What about the rest of us???
>
> Jeff  --  KE7ACY
> CN94
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
> To: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>; "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:38 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Folded Dipole Dimensions
>
>
> Hi Jim, W0HV
>
> In a separate email I have sent to you a drawing with all size and
> information to build a 2 meters and 70 cm folded dipole with  4/1 coax
> balun.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher(AT)hrblock.com>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:56 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Folded Dipole Dimensions
>
>
> I'm trying to home-brew a pair of crossed yagis; one for 2 meters and one
> for 70cm but I need help with the dimensions.
> I want to use folded dipoles for the driven elements.
> What size should they be to be resonant at:
> 1.  145.800 MHz
> 2. 435.000 MHz
>
> 73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
>
> Light travels faster than sound...  This is why some people appear bright
> until you hear them speak.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:19:29 -0700
From: "Ken Owen" <n6kth(AT)n6kth.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact
To: "'Ransom, Kenneth G. \(JSC-OC\)[BAR]'"
	<kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>,	"'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <009d01c8fdab$cd3b9c50$2e01a8c0(AT)CIR2>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

OK, I guess I must just be having trouble getting the current Keps.  The
software and tracking system is working perfectly with the satellites.



N6KTH



_____

From: Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR] [mailto:kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:35 PM
To: Ken Owen; AMSAT-BB
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact



If you have been doing comparisons today, your keps are old. The ISS did a
major reboost early today and that will cause your times to be off. It will
take a bit for the predicts to catch up but you need to have the latest keps
downloaded for the day of the contact.



If you download a new set this weekend, you should see the predicts line up
with the live NASA telemetry.



Kenneth - N5VHO



_____

From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org on behalf of Ken Owen
Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 5:40 PM
To: 'AMSAT-BB'
Cc: dk1tb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 support for upcoming ARRIS Contact



Hi folks:

I would greatly appreciate your help with using SATPC32 for a contact with
the International Space Station this Tuesday.  I have been using the program
successfully with satellites, but it does not seem to be tracking the ISS
correctly.  When I use SatPC32ISS, I notice that the AOS time is 5 to 10
minutes different from what is reported on the NASA "real time" tracking web
site.  Since the ISS has been quiet lately, there seems to be no way for me
to confirm if I'm tracking it OK.  I've updated the Keps through the main
program's "Satellites" menu.

I thought that I would have a little more time to work on this, but they
just moved us up in the schedule!

Any advice would be most helpful.

Ken, N6KTH

_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:27:18 +0300
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TNC Problem
To: "Gregory Dober" <gjdober(AT)comcast.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001801c8fdac$e6a1ba20$0b09a8c0(AT)zeus>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
	reply-type=original

Hi Greg,

sorry for asking but, have you before any experience with 9600 bPs  ???

9600 is a direct, pure FSK signal, not AFSK like 1200 bPs in order to hear
"tone-packets".
Therefore, you can not hear anything else than short carrier-bursts
("quick empty carrier" as you correctly pointed out).

So, if you heard just a carrier on  another radio, that is 100% normal for
9600 bPs.
I can't see any problem on that.

73, Mak SV1BSX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Dober" <gjdober(AT)comcast.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:36 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] TNC Problem


> Went back to attempting to work digital modes on the birds.  Hooked a new
> Timewave 9600 and was able to communicate immediately by hyperterminal.  I
> tried a loopback test and couldn't connect to my callsign though the TNC
> would light TX.  Went to an APRS program, connected the TNC to my Icom and
> was able to copy stations.  When I would transmit, TNC, radio all keyed up
> but I heard no packets on another radio.  Just a quick empty carrier.
>
>
>
> Borrowed my friends AEA PK 900.same problem.
>
>
>
> Never had this problem on past TNC's or laptops.  The only difference is
> they all had direct serial connections to the laptop.  The Dell Inspiron
> is
> about 6 months old and uses the serial to usb connections.  I have two
> Belkins for the com ports.  Are some serial to usb connections problematic
> for the TNC?  This is the only change I can note since I last worked
> packet.
> APRS and digital modes about a year ago on an older computer with a serial
> connector.
>
>
>
> Perplexed as I awaited GO-32.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
> N3MVF
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 13
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:44:16 -0400
From: "w3vvp" <w3vvp(AT)atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  help
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000301c8fd85$5b5e8d20$6401a8c0(AT)George>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

For years I have used IT as my tracking program with no problems. All of a
sudden I can not longer put the keps in. I have not changed anything on my
computer. I download and save same as I have always done. Now when I try to
put them in it says "can't open file keps.txt" which is how I have always
saved them. Is there someone out there that uses IT and knows computers who
will give me a phone number to call so I can talk to them.  Thanks
George,W3VVP



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:13:50 -0400
From: "Greg Dober" <almetco(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TNC Problem
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001301c8fdbb$c62e64a0$6501a8c0(AT)Uniblab>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Max,

I was running it at 1200BPS for the tests.  I can receive all packets from
APRS on UIVIEW and HyperTerminal.  My Kenwood HT call N3MVF-2 can even send
a message to N3MVF on APRS software through the TNC and into the laptop.
With the HT feet away, I cannot connect or ack the message back from the
laptop/TNC.  I get on the Icom TX that empty carrier.  Same symptom on both
TNCs.  In summary, recives, keys TX at TNC and radio but cannot connect loop
test back to mycall/N3MVF on TNC or hear packets transmitted at 1200baud
using APRS.

Good to know abt the 9600 too.

16 years of packet and sat BBS and I'm stumped.

Tnx
Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of SV1BSX
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:27 PM
To: Gregory Dober; amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TNC Problem

Hi Greg,

sorry for asking but, have you before any experience with 9600 bPs  ???

9600 is a direct, pure FSK signal, not AFSK like 1200 bPs in order to hear
"tone-packets".
Therefore, you can not hear anything else than short carrier-bursts
("quick empty carrier" as you correctly pointed out).

So, if you heard just a carrier on  another radio, that is 100% normal for
9600 bPs.
I can't see any problem on that.

73, Mak SV1BSX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Dober" <gjdober(AT)comcast.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 3:36 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] TNC Problem


> Went back to attempting to work digital modes on the birds.  Hooked a new
> Timewave 9600 and was able to communicate immediately by hyperterminal.  I
> tried a loopback test and couldn't connect to my callsign though the TNC
> would light TX.  Went to an APRS program, connected the TNC to my Icom and
> was able to copy stations.  When I would transmit, TNC, radio all keyed up
> but I heard no packets on another radio.  Just a quick empty carrier.
>
>
>
> Borrowed my friends AEA PK 900.same problem.
>
>
>
> Never had this problem on past TNC's or laptops.  The only difference is
> they all had direct serial connections to the laptop.  The Dell Inspiron
> is
> about 6 months old and uses the serial to usb connections.  I have two
> Belkins for the com ports.  Are some serial to usb connections problematic
> for the TNC?  This is the only change I can note since I last worked
> packet.
> APRS and digital modes about a year ago on an older computer with a serial
> connector.
>
>
>
> Perplexed as I awaited GO-32.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
> N3MVF
>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:04:05 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: help
To: "w3vvp" <w3vvp(AT)atlanticbb.net>, "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001f01c8fddb$f114da80$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
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Hi George, W3VVP

Probably for some unknow reason the directory in wich you actually
save the keplerian elements is not the same that the file IT.ini reads

Open the file IT.ini and find

#  Parameters affecting how we read element sets from files...

nasa_checksum_type = 4
check_amsat_checksum = 0

#  Uncomment this setting to automatically read in a Keplerian elements file
#  (in Update mode) when InstantTrack starts up. Substitute the file name
you
#  want it to read, up to 40 characters. If the file isn't found,
#  InstantTrack
#  will just start up normally.
auto_read_kepsfile = C:\kepler\amsat.txt

If the path in wich you save Keps is not the same that the file IT.ini reads
then you cannot save automatically your keps.

Check if the path are the same and then uncomment the following line

auto_read_kepsfile = C:\kepler\amsat.txt

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

----- Original Message -----
From: "w3vvp" <w3vvp(AT)atlanticbb.net>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:44 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] help


> For years I have used IT as my tracking program with no problems. All of a
> sudden I can not longer put the keps in. I have not changed anything on my
> computer. I download and save same as I have always done. Now when I try
to
> put them in it says "can't open file keps.txt" which is how I have always
> saved them. Is there someone out there that uses IT and knows computers
who
> will give me a phone number to call so I can talk to them.  Thanks
> George,W3VVP
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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