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Today's Topics:

1.  QSL cards from WD9EWK's 17-22 July 2008 road trip
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Re: Compass sounding better (Alan Cresswell)
3.  grid DL99 (& maybe DL98) QRV (Michael Pfeuffer)
4. Re: COMPASS over ZL (Alan Cresswell)
5.  SatPC32 (David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB)
6. Re: SatPC32 (Alan P. Biddle)
7. Re: COMPASS over ZL (Alan Cresswell)
8. Re: SatPC32 (David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB)
9.  X-Yagi (D. Mynatt)
10.  Determining the length of a driven element (Phil)
11. Re: Determining the length of a driven element (Art McBride)
12. Re: SatPC32 (Erich Eichmann)
13. Re: X-Yagi (Martin)
14.  HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview (Simon (HB9DRV))
15. Re: HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview
(Fabiano Moser - PY5RX)
16. Re: Determining the length of a driven element (Joe)
17. Re: HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview (Angus)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb(AT)wd9ewk.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  QSL cards from WD9EWK's 17-22 July 2008 road trip
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <409955.2364.qm(AT)web56110.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi!

I now have blank QSL cards for each of the 10 locations I
transmitted from during my 17-22 July 2008 road trip.  For
this trip, I am not using the AMSAT AO-7 30th anniversary
"fill-in-the-blank" QSL cards that I've used in the recent
past.  I have cards with information for each location including
an image of my GPS receiver's display showing the
latitude/longitude for each location.

I have already replied to the QSL requests I received at my PO
box since the trip, plus I've sent out cards to others who have
asked for cards to confirm contacts during my trip.  I'll write
out more cards this weekend, to go in the mail early next week.
If you worked WD9EWK during that period and would like to receive
a card (or cards) for any contact, please e-mail me directly with
the QSO information.  If you want to send me a card (or cards),
that's OK.  You don't have to send an SASE or stamps.  I
appreciate any SASEs or stamps I receive, as that helps cut down
my contribution to the US post office this month.

73!



Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/






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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:03:10 -0000
From: "Alan Cresswell" <alancresswell(AT)xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Compass sounding better
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A6B19755767B4AFCA59E22100F93AF77(AT)Dell1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Mike,

I sent those commands at 1947 UT this morning and all accepted OK.  No
beacon heard but low elevation short pass.

Alan
ZL2BX

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rupprecht [mailto:mail(AT)mike-rupprecht.de]
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2008 16:30
To: we1u(AT)verizon.net
Cc: 'Alan Cresswell'; 'Robert Smith'; 'Keith N4ZQ'; 'Greg D.'
Subject: AW: AW: Compass sounding better

Hi Bob,

these news are good - COMPASS hasn't got away yet...

We think, that is no internal communication between the units. Maybe the
lithium polymer cells are death and COMPASS is working only in full sunlight
due the solar panels current.

I could command COMPASS this morning twice and heard two beacons :-)
The battery voltage was 2.98 V (first pass) and 2.82 V in the second pass.
The CPU onboard needs 3 Volts.

If you have the time (!) you can try to send the following commands:

****14#200#   unchanged
****13#200#   unchanged
****16#255#   critical batt to max ->  always emergency mode to save more
power

Thanks for your efforts and I wish I had better news as well....

73, Mike



-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Bob DeVarney W1ICW [mailto:we1u(AT)verizon.net]
Gesendet: Freitag, 22. August 2008 16:42
An: Mike Rupprecht
Betreff: Re: AW: Compass sounding better

Hi Mike,
I tried the 14:29 pass today. I was able to upload the heater off and
test beacon commands twice, and got confirmations twice. I received no
other signals from the satellite for the entire pass.

Wish I had better news.

Bob W1ICW

Mike Rupprecht wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> it reads well. Tomorrow I have a day off. So I have time to command and
> listen to COMPASS by myself.
> It's also good to hear that others tried to access the satellite.
>
> Thanks again Bob for all your encouragement.
>
> 73, Mike
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Bob DeVarney W1ICW [mailto:we1u(AT)verizon.net]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. August 2008 16:26
> An: Mike Rupprecht; amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Betreff: Compass sounding better
>
> Mike,
> on the 14:10 pass over the eastern US, I was able to upload the heater
> off and test beacon commands several times successfully. I also heard
> confirmation tones several other times during the pass, so others are
> also able to get into the satellite.
> I commanded the test beacon several times and got confirmation, but
> never did hear the beacon come on during the pass. Perhaps because so
> many people were sending commands at the same time, it just kept
> resetting a timer.
> I believe Compass is getting healthier; it certainly seems a LOT more
> responsive today than it was, say 4 days ago. I think this is
> encouraging. Hopefully someone can get a beacon out of it this pass. I
> wlll be listening up for the 15:43 pass and hope to hear a beacon then.
>
> 73 de Bob W1ICW
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:37:52 -0500
From: Michael Pfeuffer <wq5c(AT)texas.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  grid DL99 (& maybe DL98) QRV
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20080822142411.12598ec0(AT)pop.texas.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Hi all,

I'm going to be in DL99 and will try to be on the LEO FM birds using a HT &
Arrow.  There is a chance I may be able to get over to DL98.  Likely times
are:

	Sunday 8/24 evening
	Monday 8/25 evening
	Tuesday 8/26 morning

73,
Mike WQ5C/5





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:36:16 -0000
From: "Alan Cresswell" <alancresswell(AT)xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS over ZL
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <54FECEC74C36453FBAF7DBC5E9EC83D0(AT)Dell1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Mike,

Commands sent and acknowledged at 2120 UT.  No beacon heard during the
entire 13 minute pass.

Alan
ZL2BX



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:01:48 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SatPC32
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48AF455C.9080004(AT)btinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone help me with a question regarding SATPC32?

What I am trying to do is find out for any given satellite, its AZ as
its comes over the horizon and again when it disappears below the
horizon _*BEFORE*_ it actually arrives!

I hope that makes some sense, What I want to know is where in the sky it
will be at AOS and where it will be at LOS - unlike Nova, I cant seem to
run the projection forward or get a print out of future passes.

I have looked in the help files and found nothing (or "missed it" more
likely!)

So any pointers would be really welcome. Thanks in advance


--

*David*

*KG4ZLB/M?ZLB*

*www.kg4zlb.com <http://www.kg4zlb.com/>*

*www.m?zlb.com <http://www.m0zlb.com/>*





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:22:12 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32
To: " 'David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB' " <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>,	"'amsat'"
	<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <D93C88CE20584A14998F036DFF7F4004(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

David,

The easiest way is to run the WinListen program, which is one of the
auxiliary programs which is installed.  Start it up, pick the source of Keps
and the satellite, time span and time step of interest, and then tick Rising
and Setting.  You will note that the beginning and ending elevation usually
is not exactly zero if you take the default step.  Pick something smaller,
10 seconds or so, and it will be very close.  There is an WinAOS program
which gives related data in a slightly different format.  Hopes this helps.

Alan
WA4SCA




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:32:28 -0000
From: "Alan Cresswell" <alancresswell(AT)xtra.co.nz>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS over ZL
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5E868447816F467DA110C9FABA6CB6A8(AT)Dell1>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"



Hi Mike,

Sent numerous battery off commands on the 2256 UT  Compass pass (9deg el)
but no response. The first time it has ignored me on a sunlit pass Hi.

Alan
ZL2BX

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:50:05 -0400
From: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32
To: APBIDDLE(AT)MAILAPS.ORG, Peter <roi(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: 'amsat' <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48AF50AD.8070504(AT)btinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Many thanks Alan and Pete, sorry for the late reply but SW Florida just
had an electrical and rain storm that was way worse than anything Fay
threw at us Tuesday and knocked the internet out!

I am looking at WinAOS, that is what I was looking for so thanks for that!

I am just comparing the listing given to the Countdown list on the main
screen and there are some differences and can you also tell me what the
significance is of the blue blocked entries on the list?


73

David
KG4ZLB


Alan P. Biddle wrote:
> David,
>
> The easiest way is to run the WinListen program, which is one of the
> auxiliary programs which is installed.  Start it up, pick the source of Keps
> and the satellite, time span and time step of interest, and then tick Rising
> and Setting.  You will note that the beginning and ending elevation usually
> is not exactly zero if you take the default step.  Pick something smaller,
> 10 seconds or so, and it will be very close.  There is an WinAOS program
> which gives related data in a slightly different format.  Hopes this helps.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
>

--

*David*

*KG4ZLB/M?ZLB*

*www.kg4zlb.com <http://www.kg4zlb.com/>*

*www.m?zlb.com <http://www.m0zlb.com/>*





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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:35:14 -0600
From: "D. Mynatt" <dave(AT)mynatt.biz>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  X-Yagi
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <839C12C414A7473BACAEF980AC485221(AT)compaq>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I've looked about and see two manufacturers for x-yagi's -M2 and Moonraker.
Are there any others folks would recommend? I see lots of negative comments on
blogs about the standoffishness of M2 and I can agree he is curt to a fine
point.

Suggestions welcome.

Dave

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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:18:21 +1000
From: Phil <phillor(AT)telstra.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Determining the length of a driven element
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200808231318.22522.phillor(AT)telstra.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Hello,

During a casual conversation recently, the topic of aerial trimming came up.
Perhaps this may be a little off-topic here but since I don't know the answer
I thought this would be a good place to ask anyway.

Say a dipole has an SWR of 5:1 at one end of a band and 4:1 at the other end.
Further, let's say that the dipole will be used at the centre of the band and
with a reasonable SWR. It has been determined that the dipole needs to be
shortened. The question is by how much?

The person asking the question is reluctant to pull the aerial down a dozen
times so that short lengths can be nibbled off each end and instead wants to
know if the amount that needs to be cut off can be determined from the
difference in the SWR at both ends of the band.

A logical question I suppose but is there a reasonable answer?

--
Regards,
Phil


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:12:35 -0700
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh(AT)cox.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
To: "'Phil'" <phillor(AT)telstra.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <004b01c904de$dab81e00$0200a8c0(AT)kc6uqh>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Phil,
SWR should be less than 2:1 Several computer modeling programs exist that
will give you and answer to your question. Length is the resonant part of
the SWR, resistance is the other part, either can cause a high VSWR and
usually both contribute.

Art,
KC6UQH
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Phil
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:18 PM
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Determining the length of a driven element

Hello,

During a casual conversation recently, the topic of aerial trimming came up.

Perhaps this may be a little off-topic here but since I don't know the
answer
I thought this would be a good place to ask anyway.

Say a dipole has an SWR of 5:1 at one end of a band and 4:1 at the other
end.
Further, let's say that the dipole will be used at the centre of the band
and
with a reasonable SWR. It has been determined that the dipole needs to be
shortened. The question is by how much?

The person asking the question is reluctant to pull the aerial down a dozen
times so that short lengths can be nibbled off each end and instead wants to

know if the amount that needs to be cut off can be determined from the
difference in the SWR at both ends of the band.

A logical question I suppose but is there a reasonable answer?

--
Regards,
Phil
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:17:38 +0200
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann(AT)t-online.de>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32
To: David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <8B8A4CA2C51A4B7D946FEA9B77DB872D(AT)HildaEichmanPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi David,
WinAOS shows the AOS and LOS times of multiple satellites in chronological
order for the selected period (by default 1 day). When you click on a line
all passes of THAT satellite will be highlighted. So you have  better
overview for a particular satellite.

The program checks the passes in steps of 1 minute and displays the times in
full minutes. So, the maximum inaccuracy is within 1 minute (see the WinAOS
"Help" text). That is sufficient for an overview, I think.

You should use the same Keps file with WinAOS that you use with SatPC32,
i.e. nasa.all.

73s, Erich, DK1TB

----- Original Message -----
From: "David - KG4ZLB/M?ZLB" <m0zlb(AT)btinternet.com>
To: <APBIDDLE(AT)mailaps.org>; "Peter" <roi(AT)optonline.net>
Cc: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32


Many thanks Alan and Pete, sorry for the late reply but SW Florida just
had an electrical and rain storm that was way worse than anything Fay
threw at us Tuesday and knocked the internet out!

I am looking at WinAOS, that is what I was looking for so thanks for that!

I am just comparing the listing given to the Countdown list on the main
screen and there are some differences and can you also tell me what the
significance is of the blue blocked entries on the list?


73

David
KG4ZLB


Alan P. Biddle wrote:
> David,
>
> The easiest way is to run the WinListen program, which is one of the
> auxiliary programs which is installed.  Start it up, pick the source of
> Keps
> and the satellite, time span and time step of interest, and then tick
> Rising
> and Setting.  You will note that the beginning and ending elevation
> usually
> is not exactly zero if you take the default step.  Pick something smaller,
> 10 seconds or so, and it will be very close.  There is an WinAOS program
> which gives related data in a slightly different format.  Hopes this
> helps.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
>

--

*David*

*KG4ZLB/M?ZLB*

*www.kg4zlb.com <http://www.kg4zlb.com/>*

*www.m?zlb.com <http://www.m0zlb.com/>*



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:25:51 +0200
From: "Martin" <tmm(AT)trutter.dk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: X-Yagi
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <3FA75CAF8635452EA6A25247E2D2C332(AT)hplaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi Dave.

This is the part about amateurradio that I love.
If it isn't readily available in the quality that you like, then why not
just build it yourself.

I have had very good results with the designs from this page.
http://dk7zb.fox28.de/start1.htm
Don't worry about the german page, he's writing in english also.
He has many designs for many bands, and also include a small notice about
making a x-yagi.

Most of the materials are readily available, and you can make the antenna at
home, by your kitchen table.It's that simple.

Regards
Martin, OZ1TMM

D. Mynatt wrote:
> I've looked about and see two manufacturers for x-yagi's -M2 and
> Moonraker.  Are there any others folks would recommend? I see lots of
> negative comments on blogs about the standoffishness of M2 and I can
> agree he is curt to a fine point.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Dave
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:08:15 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <EDF802FCFCF34C08BC9B27950B7FB1A0(AT)doubletrouble>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

A week later than expected the very first technology preview of the new HRD
satellite tracking module is available:

http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/Downloads/BetaKits/tabid/99/Default.aspx

Something to play with while the HEO satellites are being prepaired :-)

Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com



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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:26:50 +0100
From: "Fabiano Moser - PY5RX" <fabianomoser(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000601c90523$e91261a0$0301a8c0(AT)hp>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hello Simon,

Why, the last BETA versions not works with the YAESU FT-847?
In the GROUND CONTROL the button SAT not active the SAT function on radio
and the modes and VFO (SubB, MainA) is impossible to set.

The only the 3.4 v1294 works perfect with my YAESU FT-847 the all others
(newer) not works, doing the same problem.

73 Fabiano Moser PY5RX/CT1

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview


>A week later than expected the very first technology preview of the new HRD
> satellite tracking module is available:
>
> http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/Downloads/BetaKits/tabid/99/Default.aspx
>
> Something to play with while the HEO satellites are being prepaired :-)
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:33:25 -0500
From: Joe <nss(AT)mwt.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
To: Phil <phillor(AT)telstra.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <48B011A5.30001(AT)mwt.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Nope

Phil wrote:

>Hello,
>
>During a casual conversation recently, the topic of aerial trimming came up.
>Perhaps this may be a little off-topic here but since I don't know the answer
>I thought this would be a good place to ask anyway.
>
>Say a dipole has an SWR of 5:1 at one end of a band and 4:1 at the other end.
>Further, let's say that the dipole will be used at the centre of the band and
>with a reasonable SWR. It has been determined that the dipole needs to be
>shortened. The question is by how much?
>
>The person asking the question is reluctant to pull the aerial down a dozen
>times so that short lengths can be nibbled off each end and instead wants to
>know if the amount that needs to be cut off can be determined from the
>difference in the SWR at both ends of the band.
>
>A logical question I suppose but is there a reasonable answer?
>
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 17
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:34:52 +0100
From: "Angus" <angus(AT)young5769.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD Satellite Tracking - Technology Preview
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A6B782BE3DFC4D32A4E96181A04535DD(AT)GusPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type="original"

I do like the look of the new programme but will continue using Orbitron,
what I did like was the slider control that allowed the user to alter the
frequencys as needed, the current WISP DDE system I am using with Orbitron
and FT817s does not allow this manual tunning but an older copy of WISP DDE
did.
Shall have to see if I can find the older version and see if that still
works.
regards
Gus M0IKB


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