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Today's Topics:
1. duh (W0DXZ(AT)aol.com)
2. Re: Determining the length of a driven element (Phil)
3. Re: IARU representation in European Union (i8cvs)
4. Re: Determining the length of a driven element (Greg D.)
5. Re: Determining the length of a driven element (Greg D.)
6. Re: VO-52 (i8cvs)
7. Re: IARU representation in European Union (AMRAD)
8. CUTE-1.7+APDII Earth picture #4 (correction) (Mineo Wakita)
9. Re: IARU representation in European Union (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
10. Re: IARU representation in European Union (i8cvs)
11. VO-52 pass at 14:10z (Fred VE3FAL)
12. Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable (Kostas Ioannidis)
13. Re: Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable (Simon (HB9DRV))
14. Re: Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable (N3UJJ)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:09:08 EDT
From: W0DXZ(AT)aol.com
Subject: [amsat-bb] duh
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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Wow what an idiot.
Got already to do VO-52 for the first time a half hour ago,,, checked the
time, checked the azimuth, tuned the IC-910H to freq...
I could hear lots of stations... but could never hear myself. VERY
frustrating. Started from scratch after the pass.
oh.
435 mhz.... I had it on 432 mhz...
duh.
Bob W0DXZ DM33
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:30:28 +1000
From: Phil <phillor(AT)telstra.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200808241130.29166.phillor(AT)telstra.com>
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Thank you, I knew I'd get useful responses from this group.
I've been in contact with the owner of the aerial and it seems that he has
neither an analyser nor modeling software.
This has got me interested now and so I'll see what software there is
available that will run under Linux, lots I suspect.
--
Regards,
Phil
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:16:14 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IARU representation in European Union
To: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000b01c90650$2b7e0800$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
To all over the world
The main problem here are points 4 and 6
> 4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
> amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
> IARU ?national societies? represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
> all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each
> country.
> 6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
> amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
> conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all
> worldwide radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include
> non the old concept of ?national society? but the new national
> federations or confederations, democratic representatives of large
> associative national movements of amateur radios
Comment to reinforce point 4 and 6 :
The National Communication Authority of this country do not recognise
the IARU-Region 1 to be the only Society representing worldwide all
radioamateurs and consequently in Italy the amateur national organization
ARI in spite of to be the only IARU member Society of this country when
sitting on round tables with the National Communication Authority has
the same power and the same rights of all the other small national
organizations non members of IARU not recognising IARU but sitting
around the same round table of the National Communications Autority
during official meeting.
Consequently the National Communication Authority of this country
cannot oblige all national radio amateur organizations to follow by law
the IARU band Plan and this creates a lot of problems in sharing the
Amateur Services and the Amateur Satellite Services particularly into the
VHF/UHF/SHF
It follows that in the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules
and Constitution and the old resolution 93-3.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
Past ARI Vicepresident representing ARI for C commission during the
Region-1 Conference Lillehammer Norway 1999
----- Original Message -----
From: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union
Point of view concerning effective representation of radio amateurs
all over the world,
In the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules and Constitution
and the old resolution 93-3.
Noting:
1. The constitutional obligation of all IARU member Societies is represent
adequately the interests of radio amateurs throughout their country and
autonomous or separate territory.
2. Is an imperative for the XXI century, the modernization of this concept
of ?national society? and change to other Constitution of national
federations or national confederations, to include all the national,
regional and local associations, NGO, leagues, groups, gangs or clubs.
3. That in some democratic countries, like in European Union, the National
Constitution of each state assumes the non-obligation to participate in
associative movements and the freedom of choice to affiliate in any
national, regional or local association. In freedom countries there are
radio amateurs who are members of other national associations and
non-governmental and non-lucrative organizations that works for education
and development of science and technology trough the Amateur Service and
Amateur Satellite Service, with other goals non-sportive like the DX and
contests on short-wave bands.
4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
IARU ?national societies? represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each country.
5. IARU in Region 1 is to be missing representation and financial resources
since 1980.
6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all worldwide
radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include non the old
concept of ?national society? but the new national federations or
confederations, democratic representatives of large associative national
movements of amateur radios.
7. Because is very important to the future of education and development, of
culture of science and technological trough the Amateur Radio and Amateur
Satellite Service have in all the World a common voice speaking on behalf of
radio amateurs to each administration.
Conclusions:
Since the old IARU resolution number 93 from 1993 (at 15 years ago) in
European Union and all over the world, the ?national societies? of IARU not
draw the attention of the regional and local organizations to the fact that
for member Societies to meet their constitutional obligations (and rights)
they should pass to such other national organizations and entities all the
adequate information and duty of participation as to the actions of the
IARU, and encourage such of this national and local organizations to respond
to them in respect of worldwide Amateur Radio and IARU matters, for this
motive of exclusion, imposed by the ?national societies? all the regional
and local associations to come short from the IARU, not contribute in equal
duty and obligations to the development of the Amateur Radio and Amateur
Satellite Service.
IARU needs are integrated inside the others national, regional and local
organizations to take such action in respect thereof as is appropriate and
an important step for the freedom and democracy.
A point of view, by AMRAD (AMSAT-CT)
www.amrad.pt
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:06:18 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
To: Phil <phillor(AT)telstra.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W381E614EC8DD2449FCD49CA9670(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Maybe I'm missing something, but I think there's a more fundamental issue
here. If the SWR is way out of range at both ends of the band, it would
appear to me that the band is too wide for the antenna. No pruning of the
antenna is going to fix both ends. You need to pick a center frequency for
where you want to operate, and adjust the antenna for that.
Greg KO6TH
----------------------------------------
> From: phillor(AT)telstra.com
> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:18:21 +1000
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Determining the length of a driven element
>
> Hello,
>
> During a casual conversation recently, the topic of aerial trimming came up.
> Perhaps this may be a little off-topic here but since I don't know the
answer
> I thought this would be a good place to ask anyway.
>
> Say a dipole has an SWR of 5:1 at one end of a band and 4:1 at the other
end.
> Further, let's say that the dipole will be used at the centre of the band
and
> with a reasonable SWR. It has been determined that the dipole needs to be
> shortened. The question is by how much?
>
> The person asking the question is reluctant to pull the aerial down a dozen
> times so that short lengths can be nibbled off each end and instead wants to
> know if the amount that needs to be cut off can be determined from the
> difference in the SWR at both ends of the band.
>
> A logical question I suppose but is there a reasonable answer?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Phil
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:39:41 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
To: Phil <phillor(AT)telstra.com>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W521398E9395B0C2752BC4FA9670(AT)phx.gbl>
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...except, of course, that I'm assuming it's lower than that in the middle....
That would be an interesting measurement to make. If you're on a glide slope
5:1 down to 4:1 going towards the higher end of the band, then I agree the
antenna is too long. But assuming (here I go again!) that the original length
was something reasonably close to 468/f in feet, then you've probably got
something else going on to set it out of tune. Check for loose connections,
nearby metal things, bad insulators, etc. before doing any pruning.
Greg KO6TH
----------------------------------------
> From: ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com
> To: phillor(AT)telstra.com; amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:06:18 -0700
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Determining the length of a driven element
>
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but I think there's a more fundamental issue
here. If the SWR is way out of range at both ends of the band, it would
appear to me that the band is too wide for the antenna. No pruning of the
antenna is going to fix both ends. You need to pick a center frequency for
where you want to operate, and adjust the antenna for that.
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: phillor(AT)telstra.com
>> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
>> Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:18:21 +1000
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Determining the length of a driven element
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> During a casual conversation recently, the topic of aerial trimming came
up.
>> Perhaps this may be a little off-topic here but since I don't know the
answer
>> I thought this would be a good place to ask anyway.
>>
>> Say a dipole has an SWR of 5:1 at one end of a band and 4:1 at the other
end.
>> Further, let's say that the dipole will be used at the centre of the band
and
>> with a reasonable SWR. It has been determined that the dipole needs to be
>> shortened. The question is by how much?
>>
>> The person asking the question is reluctant to pull the aerial down a dozen
>> times so that short lengths can be nibbled off each end and instead wants
to
>> know if the amount that needs to be cut off can be determined from the
>> difference in the SWR at both ends of the band.
>>
>> A logical question I suppose but is there a reasonable answer?
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Phil
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:42:38 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO-52
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <001001c90653$dbdb3bc0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Luc, VE2DWE
I got a long QSO with CU3EQ on FO-29 during the southbound orbit 59370 at
23:58 UTC august 24
Signal was great but there was nobody on the passband except SV1BSX
At this time my call letter is not already included in his Internet log book
at
http://dx.qsl.net/cgi-bin/logform.cgi?cu3eq
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: <eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52
> On my 1350UTC VO-52 pass there was nobody on the satellite until Jose
CU3EQ in the Azores archipelago show up and i'm just waiting to see
> my call sign in his Internet log book
http://dx.qsl.net/cgi-bin/logform.cgi?cu3eq a nice feature! signal was
great this morning
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:32:56 +0100
From: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IARU representation in European Union
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Message-ID: <004301c90695$8ea28880$e02cfea9(AT)MARIANO>
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Dear Domenico, I8CVS
This is a very important and present topic.
In general, concerning the representation of IARU, in the present situation
of European Union, IARU to stand for nothing; concerning the democratic
Constitution of each European country this politic of IARU is to take the
wrong way.
Is urgent for the future of the Amateur Radio Service and Amateur Satellite
Service change the old concept of ?only one? national society, in fact, this
only one societies represents a minority (5 to 25%) of a sportive class
interested only in sport, not in science and technology, when at least, more
and more amateur radio work outside in other thematic, national, regional
and local associations and organizations when in fact develop the HAM's near
the citizens and the youngsters, inside the schools and universities, this
is the reality in Portugal.
In my personal point of view, this is a question of interest in QSL service.
Unfortunately IARU and the Amateur Radio all over the world continue to lose
progress and prestige.
In the Portuguese case, since 1980 the national society represents only 10
to 12% of all practising of Amateur Radio Service, all the other citizens
and amateur radio works in other regional and local organizations. That in
reality develops (in local and regional organizations) a very important
public service with the local populations and authorities.
The solution is create a National Federations integrated in one
International Confederation like the old and prestigious IARU, focus in XXI
century and the new challenges for the education, science and technology
developments, public service for all mankind, and at least the sportive
interests.
Is one dramatic situation (unconstitutional and illegal) when a ?national
society? from IARU refuses other national and regional or local
associations, clubs, groups, NGO, leagues or societies to make part of the
worldwide interests of the culture of science and technology via the open
spirit of the HAM's all over the world. In fact, this is the present
situation of the Portuguese representative IARU society.
In conclusion, in the Portuguese case more then 85% of the amateur radio
citizens not sharing and not contribute to the interests of Amateur Radio
via the IARU.
To change this dramatic and unconstitutional and illegal situation in
Portugal, in 2001 I try to transform the national society in one national
federation or confederation, open to all other national, regional and local
HAM associations or societies.
In the Portuguese case, any interested in participate to the IARU
contribution and payment to receive QSL, have one solution: go to Spain, to
URE (and open a Spanish delegation in Portugal ...), or go to France, to
REF-Union, or to RSGB in England, DARC in Germany, inside the European Union
now the problem is only the language, not the border-lines.
With my kind regards (I apology for the English),
Mariano Goncalves, CT1XI
Past president (1998 to 2001) of REP the Portuguese member of IARU
President of the board of AMRAD (NGO) and AMSAT-CT
_________________________________________________________________
----- Original Message -----
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
To: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union
> To all over the world
>
> The main problem here are points 4 and 6
>
>> 4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
>> amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
>> IARU ?national societies? represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
>> all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each
>> country.
>
>> 6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
>> amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
>> conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all
>> worldwide radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include
>> non the old concept of ?national society? but the new national
>> federations or confederations, democratic representatives of large
>> associative national movements of amateur radios
>
>
> Comment to reinforce point 4 and 6 :
>
> The National Communication Authority of this country do not recognise
> the IARU-Region 1 to be the only Society representing worldwide all
> radioamateurs and consequently in Italy the amateur national organization
> ARI in spite of to be the only IARU member Society of this country when
> sitting on round tables with the National Communication Authority has
> the same power and the same rights of all the other small national
> organizations non members of IARU not recognising IARU but sitting
> around the same round table of the National Communications Autority
> during official meeting.
>
> Consequently the National Communication Authority of this country
> cannot oblige all national radio amateur organizations to follow by law
> the IARU band Plan and this creates a lot of problems in sharing the
> Amateur Services and the Amateur Satellite Services particularly into the
> VHF/UHF/SHF
>
> It follows that in the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules
> and Constitution and the old resolution 93-3.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
> Past ARI Vicepresident representing ARI for C commission during the
> Region-1 Conference Lillehammer Norway 1999
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 2:58 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union
>
>
> Point of view concerning effective representation of radio amateurs
>
> all over the world,
>
>
>
> In the XXI century the IARU needs to modernize their rules and
> Constitution
> and the old resolution 93-3.
>
>
>
> Noting:
>
>
>
> 1. The constitutional obligation of all IARU member Societies is represent
> adequately the interests of radio amateurs throughout their country and
> autonomous or separate territory.
>
>
>
> 2. Is an imperative for the XXI century, the modernization of this concept
> of ?national society? and change to other Constitution of national
> federations or national confederations, to include all the national,
> regional and local associations, NGO, leagues, groups, gangs or clubs.
>
>
>
> 3. That in some democratic countries, like in European Union, the National
> Constitution of each state assumes the non-obligation to participate in
> associative movements and the freedom of choice to affiliate in any
> national, regional or local association. In freedom countries there are
> radio amateurs who are members of other national associations and
> non-governmental and non-lucrative organizations that works for education
> and development of science and technology trough the Amateur Service and
> Amateur Satellite Service, with other goals non-sportive like the DX and
> contests on short-wave bands.
>
>
>
> 4. Because in European Union and other freedom countries there are radio
> amateurs who are members of other organizations, in general, the present
> IARU ?national societies? represents only a minority between 10 to 35% of
> all this national amateur radio cultural movements actives in each
> country.
>
>
>
> 5. IARU in Region 1 is to be missing representation and financial
> resources
> since 1980.
>
>
>
> 6. IARU in the future to promote and defend all the interests of radio
> amateurs throughout the world at international telecommunications
> conferences it is necessary for the IARU to speak on behalf of all
> worldwide
> radio amateurs, needs change the Constitution, to include non the old
> concept of ?national society? but the new national federations or
> confederations, democratic representatives of large associative national
> movements of amateur radios.
>
>
>
> 7. Because is very important to the future of education and development,
> of
> culture of science and technological trough the Amateur Radio and Amateur
> Satellite Service have in all the World a common voice speaking on behalf
> of
> radio amateurs to each administration.
>
>
>
> Conclusions:
>
>
>
> Since the old IARU resolution number 93 from 1993 (at 15 years ago) in
> European Union and all over the world, the ?national societies? of IARU
> not
> draw the attention of the regional and local organizations to the fact
> that
> for member Societies to meet their constitutional obligations (and rights)
> they should pass to such other national organizations and entities all the
> adequate information and duty of participation as to the actions of the
> IARU, and encourage such of this national and local organizations to
> respond
> to them in respect of worldwide Amateur Radio and IARU matters, for this
> motive of exclusion, imposed by the ?national societies? all the regional
> and local associations to come short from the IARU, not contribute in
> equal
> duty and obligations to the development of the Amateur Radio and Amateur
> Satellite Service.
>
>
>
> IARU needs are integrated inside the others national, regional and local
> organizations to take such action in respect thereof as is appropriate and
> an important step for the freedom and democracy.
>
>
>
> A point of view, by AMRAD (AMSAT-CT)
>
> www.amrad.pt
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:08:26 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CUTE-1.7+APDII Earth picture #4 (correction)
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <E3C906AB47A2B7ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
http://lss.mes.titech.ac.jp/ssp/cute1.7/blog/00_08ver7.jpg
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/cut17ap2.htm#bottom
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:30:14 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IARU representation in European Union
To: AMRAD <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48B2B3E6.7050006(AT)ngunn.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Surely the answer here is that all your smaller clubs and organisations join
(affiliate with) the one "national" representative body.
Anybody who is a member of one of the smaller organisations then automatically
has a voice on the national organisation via his local club.
Democracy without changing the rules.
AMRAD wrote:
> Dear Domenico, I8CVS
>
>
>
> This is a very important and present topic.
>
>
>
> In general, concerning the representation of IARU, in the present situation
> of European Union, IARU to stand for nothing; concerning the democratic
> Constitution of each European country this politic of IARU is to take the
> wrong way.
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:11:08 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IARU representation in European Union
To: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <005a01c906bc$6c4d66c0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "AMRAD" <amrad(AT)sapo.pt>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>; "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IARU representation in European Union
> Dear Domenico, I8CVS
>
> This is a very important and present topic.
>
snip
>
> Is one dramatic situation (unconstitutional and illegal) when a ?national
> society? from IARU refuses other national and regional or local
> associations, clubs, groups, NGO, leagues or societies to make part of the
> worldwide interests of the culture of science and technology via the open
> spirit of the HAM's all over the world. In fact, this is the present
> situation of the Portuguese representative IARU society.
>
snip
> Mariano Goncalves, CT1XI
>
> Past president (1998 to 2001) of REP the Portuguese member of IARU
> President of the board of AMRAD (NGO) and AMSAT-CT
Hi Mariano, CT1XI
In Italy ARI is the IARU Region-1 member society representing radioamateurs
and all members of ARI are obliged to follow the IARU bylaw.
If I agree to be a member of ARI and to follow the IARU bylaw then there is
no need to create another national or regional association with a different
bylaw
If a group don't agree to follow the IARU bylaw then another national
association is created mainly with the purpose to do everyting into the
amateur bands particularly disregarding the IARU bandplan creating caos
without to receive any penalty because this is the point the National
Communication Autority do not manage the amateur operating modes
inside the borders of the officially allowed Amateur Bands.
It follows that an ARI member cannot ask protection to the National
Communication Autority let say in the case a national association not
recognising IARU put a FM repeater into the middle af a satellite downlink
a very common and daily story here.
This situation creates frustration to the ARI members following the IARU
rules and since they cannot be protected by the National Communication
Autority they are inclined to abandone ARI and IARU
Only if ITU the International Telecommunication Union will recognize that
the bylaw of IARU must be followed by all IARU and non IARU associations
then the actual caos will stop and IARU to survive must work to get this
target.
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:18:50 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick(AT)tbaytel.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO-52 pass at 14:10z
To: "'amsat'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <D3C0AC1C9975472588FD7E83D21727D7(AT)radioroom>
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That was a very quick pass and heard one operator talking about LSB and USB
and that was all I copied.
I will listen next pass...15:45z
Fred
VE3FAL
EN58hh
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:53:24 +0300
From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
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Hi all!
I need to connect my 910 to the pc via the usb port for auto doppler
correction. Do you know where I can find a usb cable at the internet (
e-shop or ebay) which works with Ham Radio Deluxe under XP?
73 de sw1ixp,Kostas Ioannidis
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:59:43 +0200
From: "Simon \(HB9DRV\)" <simon(AT)hb9drv.ch>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable
To: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>,
<AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BD270929B0E242309E602D78AB34E424(AT)doubletrouble>
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reply-type=original
http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/index.shtml
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostas Ioannidis" <kostas.ioannidis(AT)gmail.com>
> I need to connect my 910 to the pc via the usb port for auto doppler
> correction. Do you know where I can find a usb cable at the internet (
> e-shop or ebay) which works with Ham Radio Deluxe under XP?
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:23 -0400
From: "N3UJJ" <N3UJJ(AT)N3UJJ.COM>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable
To: <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
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>From the following group (I'm using one on my 910H and one on my 746Pro):
From: cpu_nut cpu_nut(AT)yahoo.com
Subject: [IC-7000] USB CI-V cable alternative, tested-working on IC-7000
To: ic7000(AT)yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 7:45 PM
I am into scanning and thought to try my Radio Shack / GRE USB serial cable
on the IC-7000 with Ham Radio Deluxe. ** It works great! **
I know the person who designed the cable and apparently it is a half or full
duplex cable (RTS switchable) with baud capability into the 100s of
thousands of kb/s so it is plenty fast. Its output to the radio is only
3.3V, but its input is ESD protected at 6V so it will not load the radio's
output. One thing that is nice is that it has red/green LEDs for TX/RX
serial data so you can see it working. It uses the well respected FTDI chip
which has drivers on <http://www.ftdichip/> http://www.ftdichip
.com/FTDrivers. htm for most operating systems.
The only inconvenience is the angled 18" jack which works great on the
scanner, but not as well on the Icom.
The 1/8" jack is stereo for full duplex mode, but in half duplex mode only
the tip is used. With Ham Radio Deluxe I just left the RTS box unchecked to
keep the cable in half duplex mode.
Apparently the IC-7000 has no problem with the 3.3V (5V is Spec) signal,
which is not surprising, as the switching threshold would be 0.7V or about
2.2V depending if the radio's input is TTL or CMOS.
I'll be curious as to others experience with using this cable on CI-V.
The price is right too:
Radio Shack 20-047
<http://tinyurl.com/3ez9p7> http://tinyurl.com/3ez9p7
GRECOM 30-3290
<http://tinyurl.com/48h7jl> http://tinyurl.com/48h7jl
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Kostas Ioannidis
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 13:53
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom IC-910H CI-V USB cable
Hi all!
I need to connect my 910 to the pc via the usb port for auto doppler
correction. Do you know where I can find a usb cable at the internet (
e-shop or ebay) which works with Ham Radio Deluxe under XP?
73 de sw1ixp,Kostas Ioannidis
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