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Today's Topics:
1. Re: winorbit (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
2. IP Address (Reg Wood)
3. Re: IP Address (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
4. Re: IP Address (Patrick Domack)
5. For sale: 8 serial port PCI card (Chris Hackworth)
6. AO-51 back on the air (Gould Smith)
7. FO-29 users where are you? (Sebastian)
8. Need help with WispDDE (Mark Lunday, WD4ELG)
9. Re: IP Address (Paul Williamson)
10. Re: IP Address (John Heaton)
11. Re: FO-29 users where are you? (i8cvs)
12. Re: FO-29 users where are you? (Luc Leblanc)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: winorbit
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <477036.88268.qm(AT)web82708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I have been using Winorbit for years.
I normally download 2 line Keps from the internet and save it as a .txt file
in a file name "Keps"
.
I boot Winorbit, select Satellite..., Edit, Database, Update from file.
List files of type = All Files(*.*)
Find the file and click it to put it in "File Name Box"
Click OK, click all OKs
Then immediatly select File from the menu bar and do a "Save Database"
GL
Mike K9QHO
AMSAT 33589
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Reg Wood <vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IP Address
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <561203.63339.qm(AT)web55202.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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Hi
can anyone tell me the IP address of Amsat UK? The reason I ask is because the
DNS Server that both Amsat-NA and Amsat-UK go through in California has my ISP
Host Name rejected for some reason and has been this way for some time. to
connect to Amsat-NA I have to use the following http://128.54.16.15/amsat-
new/index.php and
I have tried to find the IPaddress of UK-Amsat to no avail.
Other VK's that are connected to the same ISP have complained about the same
problem. The DNS server in California I believe belongs to the Defence Dept'.
Thanks in advance.
Regards Reg VK2RW
vk2rw(AT)amsat.org or vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au
Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7.
http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:07:35 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IP Address
To: Reg Wood <vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <48B8AB67.8030000(AT)ngunn.net>
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Amsat-NA is 128.54.16.15
Amsat-UK is a subdomain of Amsat-NA so the IP is the same.
Reg Wood wrote:
> Hi
> can anyone tell me the IP address of Amsat UK? The reason I ask is because
the DNS Server that both Amsat-NA and Amsat-UK go through in California has my
ISP Host Name rejected for some reason and has been this way for some time. to
connect to Amsat-NA I have to use the following http://128.54.16.15/amsat-
new/index.php and
> I have tried to find the IPaddress of UK-Amsat to no avail.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:05:55 -0400
From: Patrick Domack <patrickdk(AT)patrickdk.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IP Address
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <20080829230555.emx31od9ssgcw0wo(AT)tenchi.patrickdk.com>
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Strange stuff, the .mil dns server doesn't seem to exist anymore.
The hamradio.ucsd.edu depends on you having a connection to them, and
number of things could foul that up, but shouldn't happen much in the
normal world of things.
The replacement for trout.nosc.mil hasn't been updated yet, but is
also located at ucsd.edu (normally not a good idea)
Quoting Reg Wood <vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au>:
> Hi
> can anyone tell me the IP address of Amsat UK? The reason I ask is
> because the DNS Server that both Amsat-NA and Amsat-UK go through in
> California has my ISP Host Name rejected for some reason and has
> been this way for some time. to connect to Amsat-NA I have to use
> the following http://128.54.16.15/amsat-new/index.php and
> I have tried to find the IPaddress of UK-Amsat to no avail.
>
> Other VK's that are connected to the same ISP have complained about
> the same problem. The DNS server in California I believe belongs to
> the Defence Dept'.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards Reg VK2RW
>
> vk2rw(AT)amsat.org or vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au
>
>
>
> Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7.
> http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:49:01 -0400
From: "Chris Hackworth" <n8phucjh(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For sale: 8 serial port PCI card
To: AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<298264bf0808292049y384ff048yab55723e50920b73(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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Great for those computers with only USB ports
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220275184541&ssPageNam
e=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=012
--
Chris N8PHU
ET1(SW) USN (Ret)
Chief transmitter Heavy SES-Americom
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:30 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 back on the air
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: ao51-modes(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <1DFE7C706F4345D481021219A0066010(AT)GouldMainPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
The AO-51 command team has reloaded the software and the repeater is
operational.
We will turn the SQRX receiver on to L-band on Saturday for those wanting to
uplink to the BB.
73,
Gould, WA4SXM for the A0-51 Command team
Kevin, WA6FWF
Drew, KO4MA
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:41:14 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 users where are you?
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <623C285E-31CF-4E07-A521-62D2DDF87075(AT)bellsouth.net>
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It seems that most of the time when there is a pass in my area from
FO-29, there are no users on the bird. FO-29 is an excellent & loud
satellite, and it requires very little output power.
I just spent 10 minutes or so calling cq, and listening up and down
the passband, and there is no one around. It gets boring listening to
myself on the downlink! This is generally the case, no matter the
time of day or night.
Please, those of you who have the equipment - FO-29 is alive and well,
let's use it!
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:33:23 -0400
From: "Mark Lunday, WD4ELG" <mlunday(AT)nc.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Need help with WispDDE
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001e01c90a1e$dd7f64a0$987e2de0$(AT)rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Setup: Orbitron 3.71, WispDDE client v4, FT817.
I have PC controlling the FT817, but it is not setting the uplink transmit
frequency. The rig is not splitting into a VFOa/VFOB mode from PC control
so that I transmit on the proper uplink frequency.
I am sure this is something simple, would appreciate any help available.
Thanks
Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
wd4elg(AT)arrl.net
http://wd4elg.net
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:49:16 -0700
From: Paul Williamson <kb5mu(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IP Address
To: Reg Wood <vk2rw(AT)yahoo.com.au>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <a06230904c4deb4e441d3(AT)[192.168.0.17]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 6:22 PM -0700 8/29/08, Reg Wood wrote:
>can anyone tell me the IP address of Amsat UK?
Their web server www.uk.amsat.org seems to be at 130.88.202.72 at the moment,
but you won't be able to access it as http://130.88.202.72 because it's
apparently a virtual host.
You could try putting entries for amsat.org, www.amsat.org, and
www.uk.amsat.org in your local hosts file. That should be sufficient to bypass
any DNS problems. If you google on "hosts file" you can find instructions on
exactly how to do this.
> The reason I ask is because the DNS Server that both Amsat-NA and Amsat-UK
go through in California has my ISP Host Name rejected for some reason and has
been this way for some time.
Not the case as far as we know, but this isn't the first report I've heard of
it looking that way.
> The DNS server in California I believe belongs to the Defence Dept'.
Not for some time now. The DNS servers are both at UCSD, hamradio.ucsd.edu and
ns1.ucsd.edu. Either of which report that www.uk.amsat.org is a CNAME alias
for amsat.mcc.ac.uk, which resolves to 130.88.202.72.
Unfortunately you can't just use the name amsat.mcc.ac.uk either. Apparently
the virtual host isn't configured to respond to that name, just to
www.uk.amsat.org.
73 -Paul
kb5mu(AT)amsat.org
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:44:39 +0100
From: John Heaton <john(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IP Address
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <12F19B3B-38B5-4E00-9D0B-D3A6EE504E7E(AT)manchester.ac.uk>
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On 30 Aug 2008, at 09:49, Paul Williamson wrote:
> At 6:22 PM -0700 8/29/08, Reg Wood wrote:
>> can anyone tell me the IP address of Amsat UK?
>
> Their web server www.uk.amsat.org seems to be at 130.88.202.72 at
> the moment, but you won't be able to access it as http://
> 130.88.202.72 because it's apparently a virtual host.
> Unfortunately you can't just use the name amsat.mcc.ac.uk either.
> Apparently the virtual host isn't configured to respond to that
> name, just to www.uk.amsat.org.
The current AMSAT-UK website is on an old desktop system (on my desk)
along with 4 other virtual hosts, but the system is beginning to show
its age and I hope to move the website to the University of
Manchester webfarm - thats when I get around to it.
Bye for now, John
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:34:30 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 users where are you?
To: "Sebastian" <w4as(AT)bellsouth.net>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <005901c90aa5$221edf60$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sebastian" <w4as(AT)bellsouth.net>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:41 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 users where are you?
> It seems that most of the time when there is a pass in my area from
> FO-29, there are no users on the bird. FO-29 is an excellent & loud
> satellite, and it requires very little output power.
>
> I just spent 10 minutes or so calling cq, and listening up and down
> the passband, and there is no one around. It gets boring listening to
> myself on the downlink! This is generally the case, no matter the
> time of day or night.
>
> Please, those of you who have the equipment - FO-29 is alive and well,
> let's use it!
>
> 73 de W4AS
> Sebastian
>
Hi Sebastian, W4AS
Over Europe there are many users of FO-29 but all of them are equipped
with low noise preamplifiers antenna mounted and good antennas.
By the way when FO-29 comes up at AOS it is very common to listen for
many stations trying to get back for their own signals back and fort all
over the pass-band without success because their receiving sensitivity is
low.
Since the FO-29 sensitivity is very high only a very low EIRP is necessary
to be translated with sufficient power for a decent QSO in SSB or CW
provided that the ground station sensitivity is adeguate as well.
Quoting many succesfull ground stations using FO-29 over EU it is possible
to state that for good operation all over the orbit from AOS to LOS a
minimum ratio G/T = - 2 dB is necessary.
As an example:
Antenna gain G = 13 dBi = 20 in power factor
Overall receiving Noise Figure = 0.45 dB equal to T= 31.6 kelvin
G/T = 20 / 31.6 = 0.63 and 10 log 0.63 = -2 dB
10
Another example:
In order to get about the same ratio G/T = - 2 dB and following the
above formula we see that it is possible to use an antenna with
G= 16 dBi = 40 in power ratio and a greater receiving system overall
Noise Figure = 0.9 dB corresponding to T = 67 kelvin
And so on..........
Many years ago the recommended ratio G/T for every satellite was supplied
by AMSAT
The above G/T = -2 dB for FO-29 has been experimentally derived knowing
the working conditions of many succesful stations in QSO with me over
Europe.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:18:57 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 users where are you?
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <48B93AB1.17346.2EFA6D(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On 30 Aug 2008 at 15:34, i8cvs wrote:
>
> By the way when FO-29 comes up at AOS it is very common to listen for
> many stations trying to get back for their own signals back and fort all
> over the pass-band without success because their receiving sensitivity is
> low.
>
> Since the FO-29 sensitivity is very high only a very low EIRP is necessary
> to be translated with sufficient power for a decent QSO in SSB or CW
> provided that the ground station sensitivity is adeguate as well.
>
Same thing over here especially for some CW station who crank up their power
until they hear their own downlink and they start to call CQ
using the same power level.
THE CASCADING EFFECT
Those using just enough power have to increased their power too until the pass
band became unusable. Even with the lowest power setting on
some rig the EIRP is still too high. A way compensate they should stay off
pointing in elevation this will help reducing their signal at
the satellite.
It is not an easy concept but the using "just enough power" as stated in many
radio act and regulations take his full sense on satellite
operation. It his hard to condemn when the operator is at his first qso's but
when "veteran" are involved it is a bit hard to understand
their motive? (Just remember the chirpy CW signal on HF in the past some
station get tag as the always chirpy one!)
Just to pointed that on AO-7 on August 28 i was able to have a QSO with F2IL
Jean-Marie the satellite is in the best shape since a long
time no more heavy distorted audio. I was trying the double sat FO-29/AO-7
idea but with not too much success. It is hard here as per my
simulation to have both satellite in range but european pass offer many pass
where both sat are in range over the same area.
Who will be the first! we have the labour day week end here to try this
concept.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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