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Today's Topics:

1.  ARISS Sept 24, 2008 Update and Call for Support (Frank H. Bauer)
2.  July/August AMSAT Journal (Ed Long)
3.  FO-29 (Dave Guimont)
4.  Baikonur Cosmodrome (Clint Bradford)
5. Re: FO-29 (i8cvs)
6. Re: FO-29 (Dave Guimont)
7. Re: FO-29 (n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net)
8. Re: FO-29 (Luc Leblanc)
9. Re: FO-29 (Michael Tondee)
10.  F3ZD 5000th on AO7 (dcowden(AT)nc.rr.com)
11. Re: FO-29 (Dave Guimont)
12. Re: FO-29 (Dave Guimont)
13.  Problem in mode change on AO-51 (Luc Leblanc)
14.  Thanks for AO51 23cm USB uplink mode ! (Henk, PA3GUO)
15. Re: Problem in mode change on AO-51 (Greg D.)
16. Re: Problem in mode change on AO-51 (Andrew Glasbrenner)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:08:49 -0400
From: "Frank H. Bauer" <ka3hdo(AT)comcast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ARISS Sept 24, 2008 Update and Call for Support
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001e01c91e89$be872310$6400a8c0(AT)hq.nasa.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

All,

The ARISS volunteer team is working quite feverishly in preparation for the
upcoming Soyuz 17S mission with Richard Garriott, W5KWQ, and Mike Fincke,
KE5AIT, on-board.  This e-mail provides an interim update for the mission
and some new news regarding on-orbit ARISS hardware.  Please refer to the
press release dated Sept 18 for additional information on Richard Garriott's
flight operations.

Hardware Deliveries

SSTV:  Richard plans to take a Kenwood VC-H1 SSTV communicator with him
on-board the Soyuz for his flight and leave this on-board the ISS for future
ARISS use.  The VC-H1 has completed all hardware certification on the US and
Russian sides.  The final test, an EMI radiated emissions test, was
performed last week and the test data was delivered to Sergey Samburov,
RV3DR in Russia this week.  The VC-H1 provides a very simple interface for
ISS crew members and does not require the use of a computer.  Computer usage
has been a real challenge for ARISS, so the VC-H1 represents a lesson
learned to improve ARISS operations.

Backup Hardware:  At this week's ARISS-International Meeting we received
confirmation from Sergey, RV3DR, that the recent Progress flight delivered
the flight backup D-700, a David Clark Headset for the Ericsson system, and
an additional VOX box and cables to support the computer-operated SSTV
system.  The D700 may be installed as early as late this week, depending on
crew availability.  The flight backup will not provide a significant change
in ARISS ops.  It will make it easier for the crew to change program modes
(PMs).

Richard Garriott Operations--Call for Support

Early during Richard Garriott's flight, he expects to setup the VC-H1 and
autonomously transmit a new Earth image every 3 minutes.  He hopes to have
this system on a great deal of his flight.  We encourage the ham community
to bring SSTV equipment into schools and download these images in real-time.
The ARISS team also plans to display images from hams around the world on a
special on a web/blog site.  A beta site has been developed and will be
rolled out to the ham community in the near future.

To successfully implement the on-line SSTV picture site and support it 24/7
during Richard's flight, we will need some savvy individuals that can sort
through the many SSTV photos that ARISS will receive and keep the SSTV site
up to date in near real time.  Some computer skills will be required.  We
are looking for global support from a few individuals in each international
region to make this happen.  That way we will not be asking individuals to
volunteer all-night to realize this project.  If you are interested in
helping on this, please e-mail me directly.

Stay tuned for more information on the upcoming ARISS activities.  And get
your stations ready!

73,  Frank Bauer, KA3HDO
AMSAT V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs
ARISS International Chairman
E-mail:  ka3hdo(AT)comcast.net



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:29:06 -0400
From: "Ed Long" <wa4swj(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  July/August AMSAT Journal
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, "Officers AMSAT"
	<officers(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DS28F3E28056A26C172203283450(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Everyone,

I wanted to let you know that this issue of the Journal was uploaded to the
printer this afternoon. Once again I must apologize for being late. This issue
was due to the printer the first week of August. I had no content to place
into this issue until considerably later. So, again I am late and realize that
I am letting you down.

If you have articles for the Journal I need them now. I will repeat this for
those of you that have been contributing to the Journal and for those of you
that are hopefully thinking about it (and I thank you for it!) -- The deadline
for contributions to the Journal is the 15th of the ODD numbered months (1-3-
5-7-9-11) throughout the year. The intent is to get the Journal released to
the printer the first week of each EVEN numbered month. That means that
contributions for the Sept/Oct issue are already LATE and were due a week and
a half ago. Once again I have only a small amount of content to publish right
now so I need your help.

Please, if you have an article to contribute to the Journal, get it to me
right away. Do not delay. I want to get the Journal back on schedule.

73 and thanks,

Ed Long
WA4SWJ
Editor, The AMSAT Journal



------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:45:50 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FO-29
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<20080924214551.VQYM6291.cdptpa-omta06.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Where is everyone on FO-29???

Had a pass in San Diego ~1930z, and found one contact, Jim, W6ASL in
Concord CA...

It covered Alaska, a big chunk of the US and Canada, and the NE
corner of Russia...

I used about 50 watts EIRP  on the uplink...with some polarity fading
at times....

We've got from 145.900 to 146.000 on the uplink, cw or ssb, room for
many, many SIMULTANEOUS QSO'S.

Why fight the mob on AO-51???...

Get Marty Davidoff's SATELLITE EXPERIMENTER'S MANUAL if you need help
in understanding the procedure...

A fifth grader could do it easily...





73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com

Disagree: I learn....

Pulling for P3E...



------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:44:11 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d(AT)earthlink.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Baikonur Cosmodrome
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <5371BC9B-BB63-4C77-96EF-88E87D65C2F0(AT)earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Twenty-six spectacular photographs at...

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/09/the_baikonur_cosmodrome.html#photo6

Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666





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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:16:44 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, "Dave Guimont"
	<dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Message-ID: <001801c91e9b$9d2ff5e0$0201a8c0(AT)tin.it>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29


> Where is everyone on FO-29???
>
> Had a pass in San Diego ~1930z, and found one contact, Jim, W6ASL in
> Concord CA...
>
> It covered Alaska, a big chunk of the US and Canada, and the NE
> corner of Russia...
>
> I used about 50 watts EIRP  on the uplink...with some polarity fading
> at times....
>
> We've got from 145.900 to 146.000 on the uplink, cw or ssb, room for
> many, many SIMULTANEOUS QSO'S.
>
> Why fight the mob on AO-51???...
>
> Get Marty Davidoff's SATELLITE EXPERIMENTER'S MANUAL if you need help
> in understanding the procedure...
>
> A fifth grader could do it easily...
>
>             73, Dave, WB6LLO
>                 dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
>                     Disagree: I learn....
>
>                Pulling for P3E...

Hi Dave, WB6LLO

I agree with you and this is why I work only FO-29 but actually for many
reason you are a voice crying in the wilderness.

Pulling for P3E...

73" de

i8CVS Domenico







------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:05:29 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<20080925000531.MOZM23829.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


>
>
> > Where is everyone on FO-29???
>
> >
> > We've got from 145.900 to 146.000 on the uplink, cw or ssb, room for
> > many, many SIMULTANEOUS QSO'S.
> >
> > Why fight the mob on AO-51???...
> >
> > Get Marty Davidoff's SATELLITE EXPERIMENTER'S MANUAL if you need help
> > in understanding the procedure...
> >
> > A fifth grader could do it easily...
>
>Hi Dave, WB6LLO
>
>I agree with you and this is why I work only FO-29 but actually for many
>reason you are a voice crying in the wilderness.

Unfortunate, but true, Dom...AMSAT-NA made such a big promotion of
AO-51, supposedly promote interest in hamsats and increase
membership, and I think it did just the opposite...

I've asked many times how many members we acquired, never got an
answer so assume it was zero, nada, nil.....

And part of the loss was also many former ssb/cw users that just gave
up because of lack of bandspread...

I tried to hold a conversation when 51 was first launched, and was
berated severely for making a couple of short sentences!!

What good is it if no intelligence is transferred??

One could swap grid squares on a cell phone, if that is the only interest!!

GO P3E!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
>
>Pulling for P3E...
>
>73" de
>
>i8CVS Domenico
>
>



73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com

Disagree: I learn....

Pulling for P3E...



------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:05:58 +0000
From: n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>, "i8cvs"
	<domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<092520080105.26133.48DAE3F6000145980000661522218865869B0A02D2089B9A019C
04040A0DBF049BCC02(AT)att.net>
	
Content-Type: text/plain

Mr. Guimont,

I take exception to your comments about AO-51 and its relative merits. I am a
newcomer to the amateur satellites - having been totally off the air for more
than 15 years. I was originally licensed 25 years ago.

I've submitted a paper that will be published as part of the official
proceedings of the AMSAT-NA Symposium that discusses how working AO-27, AO-51
and SO-50 with a handheld station specifically addresses the elements of FCC
Part 97.1, which lays out the foundation for the amateur radio service. I hope
you'll have a chance to read it.

I am in the process of getting a full station together to start working the
CW/SSB satellites, but if those satellites and the equipment/investment they
require had been where I had to start working satellites, I wouldn't have done
it. A newcomer can get everything he/she needs to effectively work the three
Mode-J FM satellites for about what it costs to buy an xBox 360 console and 2-
3 games for it. It occurs to me that parents just might be more interested in
investing that amount of money in amateur radio than in video games. That's
one reason why I see these satellites and the concept of working them with
handheld stations to be a great recipe for introducing newcomers to amateur
radio and all it has to offer.

I see advantages to all of the satellites and all of their various modes of
operation. Have you worked AO-16 recently in its "bent pipe" mode? What a
hoot! I'm enjoying that a lot, and I look forward to hearing you on FO-29 in
the very near future. I hope we'll have a chance to work each other there, and
I hope you might reconsider your position on AO-51 and the other two Mode-J FM
satellites. As you likely have seen here from posts about it, AO-27 is
currently experiencing some problems and is not operating. However, SO-50 is
not nearly as busy as AO-51.

One of the main points I make in the paper I've written for the Symposium is
that the quick exchanges made necessary by the nature of these satellites
provides great chances for operators to hone their skills at providing
pertinent information in a short form during what sometimes can be chaotic
(or, at least chaotic-sounding) conditions - things that I know from personal
experience are very important in emergency-communications.

I suppose the excitement of working AO-51 could fade for me in time, but I
doubt it.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
AMSAT Member No. 36820
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
-------------- Original message from Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>: --
------------


>
> >
> >
> > > Where is everyone on FO-29???
> >
> > >
> > > We've got from 145.900 to 146.000 on the uplink, cw or ssb, room for
> > > many, many SIMULTANEOUS QSO'S.
> > >
> > > Why fight the mob on AO-51???...
> > >
> > > Get Marty Davidoff's SATELLITE EXPERIMENTER'S MANUAL if you need help
> > > in understanding the procedure...
> > >
> > > A fifth grader could do it easily...
> >
> >Hi Dave, WB6LLO
> >
> >I agree with you and this is why I work only FO-29 but actually for many
> >reason you are a voice crying in the wilderness.
>
> Unfortunate, but true, Dom...AMSAT-NA made such a big promotion of
> AO-51, supposedly promote interest in hamsats and increase
> membership, and I think it did just the opposite...
>
> I've asked many times how many members we acquired, never got an
> answer so assume it was zero, nada, nil.....
>
> And part of the loss was also many former ssb/cw users that just gave
> up because of lack of bandspread...
>
> I tried to hold a conversation when 51 was first launched, and was
> berated severely for making a couple of short sentences!!
>
> What good is it if no intelligence is transferred??
>
> One could swap grid squares on a cell phone, if that is the only interest!!
>
> GO P3E!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> >
> >
> >Pulling for P3E...
> >
> >73" de
> >
> >i8CVS Domenico
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:10:16 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID: <48DABAC8.23223.3467505(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 25 Sep 2008 at 1:05, n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net wrote:


> One of the main points I make in the paper I've written for the Symposium is
that the quick exchanges made necessary
>by the nature of these satellites provides great chances for operators to
hone their skills at providing pertinent information in a short
form during what sometimes can be chaotic (or, at least chaotic-sounding)
conditions - things that I know from personal experience are very
important in emergency-communications.
>
> I suppose the excitement of working AO-51 could fade for me in time, but I
doubt it.
>
> 73 to all,

> Tim - N3TL

Hi Tim

In your interlude you missed AO-40 the ultimate goal for a satellite operator.
Being able to achieve QSO worldwide is it not why DX stand
for? Each satellite type have their own merit and actually there is near an
hundred of those cube sat planned in the next years mainly by
universities.

Two project are on the working table actually Eagle and P3E but funding
resources are one of many issues they are facing. You ask and
answer your own question in you text! "provides great chances for operators to
hone their skills" " I suppose the excitement of working AO-
51 could fade for me in time"   And "If you doubt it" you will be just slower
than the others to hone your skills and after that?

Just read back on this BB archives you will see that the debate has been
already done and all agree at 90% that the next logical goal is an
HEO.

LEO are the first AMSAT'S shot. In the 21st century HEO will probably prevail
but a new amateur satellite governing structure will have to
be invented and it will be a real international one. The last question is to
know when?

In the mean time the LEO fleet still provide a way to maintain our stations
alive and it help here to justify the junk in my
backyard...just ask my wife?

BTW: There is still some room for experimenting i just come out a session of
L/U FM/USB mode on AO-51 and forget the crowd we where 3 to 4
stations and on some pass only 2 stations just like a private satellite!!!




"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE





------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:43:09 -0400
From: "Michael Tondee" <mat_62(AT)netcommander.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: <n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net>, "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>,
	"i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <002201c91eb8$731dfa50$6500a8c0(AT)w4hij1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Well put Tim but it probably is falling on deaf ears. A lot of us that
actually enjoy the FM sats have had this converstion with Dave before.
Everyone and I mean everyone, wants an HEO but it doesn't look like it's
happening anytime soon. Why not enjoy every possible bird up there in the
meantime?
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
AMSAT # 36017
"Pulling for any satellite of any type and mode that can increase our
operating enjoyment!!"
----- Original Message -----
From: <n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net>
To: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>; "i8cvs"
<domenico.i8cvs(AT)tin.it>
Cc: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29


> Mr. Guimont,
>
> I take exception to your comments about AO-51 and its relative merits. I
> am a newcomer to the amateur satellites - having been totally off the air
> for more than 15 years. I was originally licensed 25 years ago.
>
> I've submitted a paper that will be published as part of the official
> proceedings of the AMSAT-NA Symposium that discusses how working AO-27,
> AO-51 and SO-50 with a handheld station specifically addresses the
> elements of FCC Part 97.1, which lays out the foundation for the amateur
> radio service. I hope you'll have a chance to read it.
>
> I am in the process of getting a full station together to start working
> the CW/SSB satellites, but if those satellites and the
> equipment/investment they require had been where I had to start working
> satellites, I wouldn't have done it. A newcomer can get everything he/she
> needs to effectively work the three Mode-J FM satellites for about what it
> costs to buy an xBox 360 console and 2-3 games for it. It occurs to me
> that parents just might be more interested in investing that amount of
> money in amateur radio than in video games. That's one reason why I see
> these satellites and the concept of working them with handheld stations to
> be a great recipe for introducing newcomers to amateur radio and all it
> has to offer.
>
> I see advantages to all of the satellites and all of their various modes
> of operation. Have you worked AO-16 recently in its "bent pipe" mode? What
> a hoot! I'm enjoying that a lot, and I look forward to hearing you on
> FO-29 in the very near future. I hope we'll have a chance to work each
> other there, and I hope you might reconsider your position on AO-51 and
> the other two Mode-J FM satellites. As you likely have seen here from
> posts about it, AO-27 is currently experiencing some problems and is not
> operating. However, SO-50 is not nearly as busy as AO-51.
>
> One of the main points I make in the paper I've written for the Symposium
> is that the quick exchanges made necessary by the nature of these
> satellites provides great chances for operators to hone their skills at
> providing pertinent information in a short form during what sometimes can
> be chaotic (or, at least chaotic-sounding) conditions - things that I know
> from personal experience are very important in emergency-communications.
>
> I suppose the excitement of working AO-51 could fade for me in time, but I
> doubt it.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Tim - N3TL
> AMSAT Member No. 36820
> Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
> -------------- Original message from Dave Guimont
> <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>: --------------
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > > Where is everyone on FO-29???
>> >
>> > >
>> > > We've got from 145.900 to 146.000 on the uplink, cw or ssb, room for
>> > > many, many SIMULTANEOUS QSO'S.
>> > >
>> > > Why fight the mob on AO-51???...
>> > >
>> > > Get Marty Davidoff's SATELLITE EXPERIMENTER'S MANUAL if you need help
>> > > in understanding the procedure...
>> > >
>> > > A fifth grader could do it easily...
>> >
>> >Hi Dave, WB6LLO
>> >
>> >I agree with you and this is why I work only FO-29 but actually for many
>> >reason you are a voice crying in the wilderness.
>>
>> Unfortunate, but true, Dom...AMSAT-NA made such a big promotion of
>> AO-51, supposedly promote interest in hamsats and increase
>> membership, and I think it did just the opposite...
>>
>> I've asked many times how many members we acquired, never got an
>> answer so assume it was zero, nada, nil.....
>>
>> And part of the loss was also many former ssb/cw users that just gave
>> up because of lack of bandspread...
>>
>> I tried to hold a conversation when 51 was first launched, and was
>> berated severely for making a couple of short sentences!!
>>
>> What good is it if no intelligence is transferred??
>>
>> One could swap grid squares on a cell phone, if that is the only
>> interest!!
>>
>> GO P3E!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Pulling for P3E...
>> >
>> >73" de
>> >
>> >i8CVS Domenico
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
>> dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
>>
>> Disagree: I learn....
>>
>> Pulling for P3E...



------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:28:17 -0400
From: <dcowden(AT)nc.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  F3ZD 5000th on AO7
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<7037004.235511222313297123.JavaMail.root(AT)cdptpa-web11-z02>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Congrats Henri and thanks for our QSO's.
73 de  Don, N8DDk


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:34:40 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: n3tl(AT)bellsouth.net
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<20080925033441.FKBA6349.cdptpa-omta02.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed


>Mr. Guimont,
>
>I take exception to your comments about AO-51 and its relative merits.

Except ahead, but don't give up...





73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com

Disagree: I learn....

Pulling for P3E...



------------------------------

Message: 12
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:42:29 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29
To: "Michael Tondee" <mat_62(AT)netcommander.com>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
	<20080925034229.RHWN23829.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
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At 07:43 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote:
>Well put Tim but it probably is falling on deaf ears. A lot of us
>that actually enjoy the FM sats have had this converstion with Dave
>before. Everyone and I mean everyone, wants an HEO but it doesn't
>look like it's happening anytime soon. Why not enjoy every possible
>bird up there in the meantime?
>73,
>Michael, W4HI

Well put Michael, but please don't misunderstand...One can do
anything one likes on anything in ham radio, and I do not discourage
anyone from their choice....I'm only attempting to let them see the
extreme enjoyment they will get by learning to use the ssb,cw birds..

That's all!!




73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com

Disagree: I learn....

Pulling for P3E...



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:21:39 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Problem in mode change on AO-51
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <48DAA153.16122.2E302F3(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
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Around 0008 UTC the change of mode on AO-51 from U/fm and L/usb to U/fm and
L/fm seems to not working. The noise drop and only a carrier
remain on U  where i was able to hear my downlink from 1278 usb very very
weak. Switching my L uplink to FM produce also a very weak signal
but perfectly clear. Could be on the other west pass someone will be able to
give some report.

Thank's



"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE





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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:10:41 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Thanks for AO51 23cm USB uplink mode !
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: pa3guo(AT)amsat.org
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Dear AO51 team,

As the person that requested the 23cm USB uplink mode,
which has been active the past 3 days, I would like to
say "thank you, to all the AO51 teammembers involved
that made this happen".

Quite a few people enjoyed this mode and conducted new
experiments (isn't this what HAM radio is all about ?)

... for myself the preparation was also the end result:
in my attempt to upgrade my 70cm antenna from fixed RHCP
to switchable RCHP/LHCP I ran out of time, and my Cushcraft
is today still not ready. Next few days we have 23cm FM
uplink, I want to try to get at least 1 day out of that !

THANKS !
Henk, PA3GUO





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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:07:03 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Problem in mode change on AO-51
To: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W8CE671D377F0063169EA2A9440(AT)phx.gbl>
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Hi Luc,

I tried AO-51's 03:25z pass this evening (8:25 pm PDT), and all I heard was a
carrier for the first few minutes of the pass.  Then the carrier suddenly
dropped out for about half of the pass (no signal at all), only to return
towards the end.  I tried uplinking on 1268, with calculated doppler, in both
FM and USB, and heard nothing on the downlink which was essentially full
quieting.  Perhaps I didn't listen hard enough, but my uplink has been used
successfully with the recent mode L/S experiments, so I know it's ok.

So, something odd is happening up there.

Greg  KO6TH


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> From: lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca
> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:21:39 -0400
> CC: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Problem in mode change on AO-51
>
>
> Around 0008 UTC the change of mode on AO-51 from U/fm and L/usb to U/fm and
L/fm seems to not working. The noise drop and only a carrier
> remain on U  where i was able to hear my downlink from 1278 usb very very
weak. Switching my L uplink to FM produce also a very weak signal
> but perfectly clear. Could be on the other west pass someone will be able to
give some report.
>
> Thank's
>
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:16:04 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Problem in mode change on AO-51
To: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>,	"Luc Leblanc"
	<lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
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We had a little problem switching to L FM. We'll try to get it straightened
out on the morning passes here.

73, Drew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg(AT)hotmail.com>
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>; <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:07 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Problem in mode change on AO-51



Hi Luc,

I tried AO-51's 03:25z pass this evening (8:25 pm PDT), and all I heard was
a carrier for the first few minutes of the pass.  Then the carrier suddenly
dropped out for about half of the pass (no signal at all), only to return
towards the end.  I tried uplinking on 1268, with calculated doppler, in
both FM and USB, and heard nothing on the downlink which was essentially
full quieting.  Perhaps I didn't listen hard enough, but my uplink has been
used successfully with the recent mode L/S experiments, so I know it's ok.

So, something odd is happening up there.

Greg  KO6TH


----------------------------------------
> From: lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca
> To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:21:39 -0400
> CC: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Problem in mode change on AO-51
>
>
> Around 0008 UTC the change of mode on AO-51 from U/fm and L/usb to U/fm
> and L/fm seems to not working. The noise drop and only a carrier
> remain on U  where i was able to hear my downlink from 1278 usb very very
> weak. Switching my L uplink to FM produce also a very weak signal
> but perfectly clear. Could be on the other west pass someone will be able
> to give some report.
>
> Thank's
>
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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