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Today's Topics:
1. Time Is Running Out (Martha)
2. Re: Chinese bird (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
3. Explore the Ionosphere (from the safety of your own home)
(Luc Leblanc)
4. Status DO-64? (Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR)
5. Re: Status DO-64? (SV1BSX)
6. Re: Status DO-64? (OZ1MY)
7. Re: Status DO-64? (SV1BSX)
8. Re: Status DO-64? (OZ1MY)
9. Re: Status DO-64? (Wouter Weggelaar)
10. Re: Chinese bird (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
11. Re: Status DO-64? (Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR)
12. Kenpro elevation rotor repair (Sebastian)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:46:00 -0400
From: Martha <martha(AT)amsat.org>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Time Is Running Out
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org, officers(AT)amsat.org, sarex(AT)amsat.org,
amsat-dc(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<956751cf0809261346r988f80cjd3dca2fbde5b0cb7(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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We are about to lose our room block at the Buckhead Doubletree in Atlanta.
If you are planning to attend the 2008 AMSAT Symposium, you need to make
your room reservations ASAP. Their direct phone number is 404-231-1234.
The room rate is $125 per night and the Group Code is ASG. For a list of
speakers, go to the AMSAT website.
--
73- Martha
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:06:27 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Chinese bird
To: nigel(AT)ngunn.net
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48DD6AF3.7030509(AT)ngunn.net>
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OBJECT A
1 33386U 08047A 08270.86681241 .00006639 00000-0 38759-4 0 109
2 33386 042.4032 186.1321 0005349 274.8121 138.3688 15.79033427 219
OBJECT B
1 33387U 08047B 08270.85410193 .00235864 82914-5 18380-3 0 93
2 33387 042.4052 185.9676 0093288 133.5629 301.8137 16.04840629 210
OBJECT C
1 33388U 08047C 08270.87132440 .03977342 79208-5 33572-2 0 90
2 33388 042.5672 185.7814 0174089 148.4949 287.3027 15.88486018 216
OBJECT D
1 33389U 08047D 08270.87631317 .03720308 78109-5 31413-2 0 86
2 33389 042.5345 185.8690 0197556 152.6409 289.9087 15.83619080 215
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> Nobody going to disprove my suggeated keps?
>
> I suggest Object B might be carrying the men on the assumption that they
> would put it furthest from the debris items for safety.
>
> OBJECT A
> 1 33386U 08047A 08270.68174498 -.00000905 00000-0 -22590-5 0 97
> 2 33386 042.4032 187.2728 0005325 272.1577 167.6660 15.79022331 185
> OBJECT B
> 1 33387U 08047B 08270.56157778 .00436439 82806-5 34016-3 0 71
> 2 33387 042.3979 187.8422 0093811 131.4805 051.7398 16.04686875 167
> OBJECT C
> 1 33388U 08047C 08270.68292241 .03975689 79036-5 35116-2 0 81
> 2 33388 042.5675 186.9542 0178822 147.1161 290.4471 15.86989279 180
> OBJECT D
> 1 33389U 08047D 08270.68651225 .03790603 77941-5 32983-2 0 75
> 2 33389 042.5365 187.0379 0202443 151.1578 288.4668 15.82251603 185
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> OBJECT A
>> 1 33386U 08047A 08270.18946997 -.00000490 00000-0 00000+0 0 64
>> 2 33386 042.4031 190.3062 0005331 265.6039 252.3510 15.79021965 107
>> OBJECT B
>> 1 33387U 08047B 08270.13042824 -.00002624 82992-5 00000+0 0 40
>> 2 33387 042.4069 190.5965 0095007 128.7569 080.7968 16.04298148 95
>> OBJECT C
>> 1 33388U 08047C 08270.25198260 -.00002549 80695-5 00000+0 0 66
>> 2 33388 042.5811 189.6118 0191957 145.1394 349.9743 15.83071972 115
>> OBJECT D
>> 1 33389U 08047D 08270.25408649 -.00002516 79670-5 00000+0 0 56
>> 2 33389 042.5439 189.6986 0215742 148.6792 347.2751 15.78503425 111
>>
>>
>> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>>> Try one of these:
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Nigel A. Gunn. G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF)
1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
e-mail nigel(AT)ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pig #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK, MKARS,
ALC
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 02:40:45 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6(AT)videotron.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Explore the Ionosphere (from the safety of your
own home)
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Cc: eu-amsat(AT)yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <48DD9D2D.19006.42518CE(AT)lucleblanc6.videotron.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hi!
thought you'd be interested in this story from Science(AT)NASA: Today, NASA-
funded researchers released to the general public a new "4D" live
model of Earth's ionosphere.
Without leaving home, anyone can now fly through the layer of ionized gas that
encircles Earth at the edge of space itself. All that's
required is a connection to the Internet
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30apr_4dionosphere.htm?friend
It's crazy if it's working it will reignite my HF passion. Yous should have
google earth running and try the radio section i fell on my XYZ
just have to check live how it will really perform EG: Its a demo!!!
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:13:20 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<37503.62.194.134.114.1222503200.squirrel(AT)customer.itr-datanet.com>
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Hi All,
Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal times but
I can't hear my
signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is not
working. I can hear the
beacon and transponder noise very well.
73 Rob PE1ITR
http://www.pe1itr.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:33:36 +0300
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000701c92084$217fb800$0b09a8c0(AT)zeus>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
reply-type=original
Hi Rob,
I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252, excellent
pass
for my location.
As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi Hi
DELFI-C3),
however it was impossible to access the transponder.
So, your note is correct.
73, Mak SV1BSX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
> Hi All,
>
> Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal times
> but I can't hear my
> signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is not
> working. I can hear the
> beacon and transponder noise very well.
>
>
> 73 Rob PE1ITR
> http://www.pe1itr.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:46:53 +0200
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000801c92086$34fef380$6401a8c0(AT)opasia.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Mak and Rob,
I just had a pass here over Copenhagen with
max elevation of 86 degrees.
I were able to hear myself using 70 W to my
normal 2x19 element antenna - but very faint.
I also heard a CW station.
Conclusion - it is on but very difficult to use unless
you have a lot of power for the uplink (more than I have).
Have a nice weekend all
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:33 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
> Hi Rob,
>
> I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252,
excellent
> pass
> for my location.
>
> As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi Hi
> DELFI-C3),
> however it was impossible to access the transponder.
>
> So, your note is correct.
>
> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal
times
> > but I can't hear my
> > signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is not
> > working. I can hear the
> > beacon and transponder noise very well.
> >
> >
> > 73 Rob PE1ITR
> > http://www.pe1itr.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
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program!
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:04:26 +0300
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001001c92090$d2210a90$0b09a8c0(AT)zeus>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
reply-type=original
Hi Ib,
tks for reply and informative note. However I wondering about the DO-64 !
If you "shoot" the satellite with 2x19 el and 70 W, I suppose the ERP from
a similar system is 2-3 KWatts.
In case you had not easy access to satellite with this power, I wondering
what is changed, as I remember that during the first weeks of transponder's
activation the satellite was accessible, even if somebody was using
200-300 Watts ERP (that is my max power and I managed a lot of QSOs).
Anyway, too bad if the satellite-uplink is not enough sensitive any longer.
I can't imagine ....5-10 KW ERP uplink-power for a good enough access.
This way is a non-usable object for the majority of amateur satellite
operators.
73, Mak SV1BSX
----- Original Message -----
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>; <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Cc: <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
> Hi Mak and Rob,
> I just had a pass here over Copenhagen with
> max elevation of 86 degrees.
> I were able to hear myself using 70 W to my
> normal 2x19 element antenna - but very faint.
> I also heard a CW station.
> Conclusion - it is on but very difficult to use unless
> you have a lot of power for the uplink (more than I have).
> Have a nice weekend all
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:33 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>
>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252,
> excellent
>> pass
>> for my location.
>>
>> As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi
>> Hi
>> DELFI-C3),
>> however it was impossible to access the transponder.
>>
>> So, your note is correct.
>>
>> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
>> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal
> times
>> > but I can't hear my
>> > signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is
>> > not
>> > working. I can hear the
>> > beacon and transponder noise very well.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73 Rob PE1ITR
>> > http://www.pe1itr.com
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
>> > author.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>>
>>
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>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:12:54 +0200
From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000401c9209a$5f579ec0$6401a8c0(AT)opasia.dk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Mak,
Yes I have made QSOs as well. Last time was 9th of September.
In the start of the life of the transponder it was much easier.
I do not know what is different - but one thing could be the
attitude of DO-64. If that is the course I would expect the
effect to change from orbit to orbit ?
One thing that is sure is that it is on the receive side.
Even without a preamplifier I can hear the noise floor
of the transponder.
May be something has gone wrong - only time will show.
Perhaps someone from Delfts knows ?
73 OZ1MY
Ib
----- Original Message -----
From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:04 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
> Hi Ib,
>
> tks for reply and informative note. However I wondering about the DO-64 !
> If you "shoot" the satellite with 2x19 el and 70 W, I suppose the ERP from
> a similar system is 2-3 KWatts.
> In case you had not easy access to satellite with this power, I wondering
> what is changed, as I remember that during the first weeks of
transponder's
> activation the satellite was accessible, even if somebody was using
> 200-300 Watts ERP (that is my max power and I managed a lot of QSOs).
>
> Anyway, too bad if the satellite-uplink is not enough sensitive any
longer.
> I can't imagine ....5-10 KW ERP uplink-power for a good enough access.
> This way is a non-usable object for the majority of amateur satellite
> operators.
>
> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
> To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>; <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Cc: <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>
>
> > Hi Mak and Rob,
> > I just had a pass here over Copenhagen with
> > max elevation of 86 degrees.
> > I were able to hear myself using 70 W to my
> > normal 2x19 element antenna - but very faint.
> > I also heard a CW station.
> > Conclusion - it is on but very difficult to use unless
> > you have a lot of power for the uplink (more than I have).
> > Have a nice weekend all
> > 73 OZ1MY
> > Ib
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
> > To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:33 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
> >
> >
> >> Hi Rob,
> >>
> >> I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252,
> > excellent
> >> pass
> >> for my location.
> >>
> >> As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi
> >> Hi
> >> DELFI-C3),
> >> however it was impossible to access the transponder.
> >>
> >> So, your note is correct.
> >>
> >> 73, Mak SV1BSX
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
> >> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal
> > times
> >> > but I can't hear my
> >> > signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is
> >> > not
> >> > working. I can hear the
> >> > beacon and transponder noise very well.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 73 Rob PE1ITR
> >> > http://www.pe1itr.com
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
> >> > author.
> >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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> >>
> >>
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author.
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> >> program!
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> >
> >
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:36:21 +0200
From: "Wouter Weggelaar" <wouterweg(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: OZ1MY <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<7abd0e260809270536vd3ceb58x63ff3c6ac08d1bad(AT)mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
The attitude of Delfi-C3 is changing slowly. The attitude with respect
to your station defines the polarization of the up- and downlink
signal, so this could lead to a change of polarization needed to
uplink into Delfi.
Please also try to uplink if the downlink seems weak, because the
uplink might be very good at that time.
Needless to say that when using circular polarized beams, you should
be able to change between LHCP and RHCP, but the mentioned stations
all have that capability to my knowledge.
When I get back to the Delfi-C3 groundstation I'll try a pass myself.
Regards,
Wouter Weggelaar
PA3WEG
Delfi-C3 Team
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 2:12 PM, OZ1MY <oz1my(AT)privat.dk> wrote:
> Hi Mak,
> Yes I have made QSOs as well. Last time was 9th of September.
> In the start of the life of the transponder it was much easier.
>
> I do not know what is different - but one thing could be the
> attitude of DO-64. If that is the course I would expect the
> effect to change from orbit to orbit ?
>
> One thing that is sure is that it is on the receive side.
> Even without a preamplifier I can hear the noise floor
> of the transponder.
> May be something has gone wrong - only time will show.
>
> Perhaps someone from Delfts knows ?
>
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:04 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>
>
>> Hi Ib,
>>
>> tks for reply and informative note. However I wondering about the DO-64 !
>> If you "shoot" the satellite with 2x19 el and 70 W, I suppose the ERP from
>> a similar system is 2-3 KWatts.
>> In case you had not easy access to satellite with this power, I wondering
>> what is changed, as I remember that during the first weeks of
> transponder's
>> activation the satellite was accessible, even if somebody was using
>> 200-300 Watts ERP (that is my max power and I managed a lot of QSOs).
>>
>> Anyway, too bad if the satellite-uplink is not enough sensitive any
> longer.
>> I can't imagine ....5-10 KW ERP uplink-power for a good enough access.
>> This way is a non-usable object for the majority of amateur satellite
>> operators.
>>
>> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
>> To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>; <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> Cc: <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>>
>>
>> > Hi Mak and Rob,
>> > I just had a pass here over Copenhagen with
>> > max elevation of 86 degrees.
>> > I were able to hear myself using 70 W to my
>> > normal 2x19 element antenna - but very faint.
>> > I also heard a CW station.
>> > Conclusion - it is on but very difficult to use unless
>> > you have a lot of power for the uplink (more than I have).
>> > Have a nice weekend all
>> > 73 OZ1MY
>> > Ib
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
>> > To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:33 AM
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Rob,
>> >>
>> >> I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252,
>> > excellent
>> >> pass
>> >> for my location.
>> >>
>> >> As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi
>> >> Hi
>> >> DELFI-C3),
>> >> however it was impossible to access the transponder.
>> >>
>> >> So, your note is correct.
>> >>
>> >> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
>> >> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
>> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> > Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal
>> > times
>> >> > but I can't hear my
>> >> > signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is
>> >> > not
>> >> > working. I can hear the
>> >> > beacon and transponder noise very well.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 73 Rob PE1ITR
>> >> > http://www.pe1itr.com
>> >> >
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:47:50 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel(AT)ngunn.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Chinese bird
To: nigel(AT)ngunn.net
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <48DE2B76.3010108(AT)ngunn.net>
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OBJECT A
1 33386U 08047A 08271.23698171 -.00000012 00000-0 00000+0 0 148
2 33386 042.4022 183.8535 0005302 277.7711 082.3069 15.79028945 271
OBJECT B
1 33387U 08047B 08270.85410193 .00235864 82914-5 18380-3 0 93
2 33387 042.4052 185.9676 0093288 133.5629 301.8137 16.04840629 210
OBJECT C
1 33388U 08047C 08270.87132440 .03977342 79208-5 33572-2 0 90
2 33388 042.5672 185.7814 0174089 148.4949 287.3027 15.88486018 216
OBJECT D
1 33389U 08047D 08270.87631317 .03720308 78109-5 31413-2 0 86
2 33389 042.5345 185.8690 0197556 152.6409 289.9087 15.83619080 215
Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> OBJECT A
> 1 33386U 08047A 08270.86681241 .00006639 00000-0 38759-4 0 109
> 2 33386 042.4032 186.1321 0005349 274.8121 138.3688 15.79033427 219
> OBJECT B
> 1 33387U 08047B 08270.85410193 .00235864 82914-5 18380-3 0 93
> 2 33387 042.4052 185.9676 0093288 133.5629 301.8137 16.04840629 210
> OBJECT C
> 1 33388U 08047C 08270.87132440 .03977342 79208-5 33572-2 0 90
> 2 33388 042.5672 185.7814 0174089 148.4949 287.3027 15.88486018 216
> OBJECT D
> 1 33389U 08047D 08270.87631317 .03720308 78109-5 31413-2 0 86
> 2 33389 042.5345 185.8690 0197556 152.6409 289.9087 15.83619080 215
>
>
>
> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>> Nobody going to disprove my suggeated keps?
>>
>> I suggest Object B might be carrying the men on the assumption that
>> they would put it furthest from the debris items for safety.
>>
>> OBJECT A
>> 1 33386U 08047A 08270.68174498 -.00000905 00000-0 -22590-5 0 97
>> 2 33386 042.4032 187.2728 0005325 272.1577 167.6660 15.79022331 185
>> OBJECT B
>> 1 33387U 08047B 08270.56157778 .00436439 82806-5 34016-3 0 71
>> 2 33387 042.3979 187.8422 0093811 131.4805 051.7398 16.04686875 167
>> OBJECT C
>> 1 33388U 08047C 08270.68292241 .03975689 79036-5 35116-2 0 81
>> 2 33388 042.5675 186.9542 0178822 147.1161 290.4471 15.86989279 180
>> OBJECT D
>> 1 33389U 08047D 08270.68651225 .03790603 77941-5 32983-2 0 75
>> 2 33389 042.5365 187.0379 0202443 151.1578 288.4668 15.82251603 185
>>
>>
>> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>>> OBJECT A
>>> 1 33386U 08047A 08270.18946997 -.00000490 00000-0 00000+0 0 64
>>> 2 33386 042.4031 190.3062 0005331 265.6039 252.3510 15.79021965 107
>>> OBJECT B
>>> 1 33387U 08047B 08270.13042824 -.00002624 82992-5 00000+0 0 40
>>> 2 33387 042.4069 190.5965 0095007 128.7569 080.7968 16.04298148 95
>>> OBJECT C
>>> 1 33388U 08047C 08270.25198260 -.00002549 80695-5 00000+0 0 66
>>> 2 33388 042.5811 189.6118 0191957 145.1394 349.9743 15.83071972 115
>>> OBJECT D
>>> 1 33389U 08047D 08270.25408649 -.00002516 79670-5 00000+0 0 56
>>> 2 33389 042.5439 189.6986 0215742 148.6792 347.2751 15.78503425 111
>>>
>>>
>>> Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
>>>> Try one of these:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Nigel A. Gunn. G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF)
1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA 937 825 5032
e-mail nigel(AT)ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pig #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK, MKARS,
ALC
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:07:03 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
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The transponder noise is very audiable. I have listened (looked) to the
transponder downlink with
DSP waterfall and transmitted with 100w on the uplink. Not a trace of any
signal. I don't think
this is a polarisation matter. Normally 10w on the uplink is sufficient to get
a solid signal on
the downlink.
On september 15th I had a 57 signal from de DO-64 transponder and suddenly my
signal disappeared.
At the time beacon and transponder noise where still audiable. It looks like a
problem with the
receiver.
73 Rob PE1ITR
OZ1MY schreef:
> Hi Mak,
> Yes I have made QSOs as well. Last time was 9th of September.
> In the start of the life of the transponder it was much easier.
>
> I do not know what is different - but one thing could be the
> attitude of DO-64. If that is the course I would expect the
> effect to change from orbit to orbit ?
>
> One thing that is sure is that it is on the receive side.
> Even without a preamplifier I can hear the noise floor
> of the transponder.
> May be something has gone wrong - only time will show.
>
> Perhaps someone from Delfts knows ?
>
> 73 OZ1MY
> Ib
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:04 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>
>
>> Hi Ib,
>>
>> tks for reply and informative note. However I wondering about the DO-64 !
>> If you "shoot" the satellite with 2x19 el and 70 W, I suppose the ERP from
>> a similar system is 2-3 KWatts.
>> In case you had not easy access to satellite with this power, I wondering
>> what is changed, as I remember that during the first weeks of
> transponder's
>> activation the satellite was accessible, even if somebody was using
>> 200-300 Watts ERP (that is my max power and I managed a lot of QSOs).
>>
>> Anyway, too bad if the satellite-uplink is not enough sensitive any
> longer.
>> I can't imagine ....5-10 KW ERP uplink-power for a good enough access.
>> This way is a non-usable object for the majority of amateur satellite
>> operators.
>>
>> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "OZ1MY" <oz1my(AT)privat.dk>
>> To: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>; <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> Cc: <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>>
>>
>> > Hi Mak and Rob,
>> > I just had a pass here over Copenhagen with
>> > max elevation of 86 degrees.
>> > I were able to hear myself using 70 W to my
>> > normal 2x19 element antenna - but very faint.
>> > I also heard a CW station.
>> > Conclusion - it is on but very difficult to use unless
>> > you have a lot of power for the uplink (more than I have).
>> > Have a nice weekend all
>> > 73 OZ1MY
>> > Ib
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "SV1BSX" <sv1bsx(AT)yahoo.gr>
>> > To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:33 AM
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Status DO-64?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Rob,
>> >>
>> >> I agree. Today morning I tried at 08:02 - 08:10Z, Orbit #2252,
>> > excellent
>> >> pass
>> >> for my location.
>> >>
>> >> As you pointed out, I also heard the beacon with a true 559 on CW (Hi
>> >> Hi
>> >> DELFI-C3),
>> >> however it was impossible to access the transponder.
>> >>
>> >> So, your note is correct.
>> >>
>> >> 73, Mak SV1BSX
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR" <rob(AT)itr-datanet.com>
>> >> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:13 AM
>> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] Status DO-64?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> > Er there station making qso's on DO-64? Last 2 weeks I tried serveal
>> > times
>> >> > but I can't hear my
>> >> > signal on the transponder. It looks like the transponder receiver is
>> >> > not
>> >> > working. I can hear the
>> >> > beacon and transponder noise very well.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 73 Rob PE1ITR
>> >> > http://www.pe1itr.com
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:01:43 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kenpro elevation rotor repair
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Well I had been back on the birds for the last 3 months or so, and
while I was getting ready for an AO-16 pass a few days ago, my
elevation rotor on my Yaesu G-5400B stopped at about 10 degrees.
That's it. It won't go back down or up.
So I checked the wiring on the rotor, everything appeared fine. I
removed the elevation rotor from the azimuthal, and took it inside. I
made a small patch cord to go from the control box to the rotor, but
no luck. All I get is the display of the elevation of about 10
degrees, and I hear a little hum when I attempt to move it up or
down. This tells me that the potentiometer is probably good, and the
motor is receiving power.
I've removed the small nameplate on the side, and there is no water
inside, and I can see the ball bears; there doesn't appear to be any
rust inside. I also removed the terminal assembly in case one of the
wire had come loose, or had a cold solder joint, but I didn't find any
problems there. Looking at the diagram of the rotor, there appears to
only be a small 24 volt motor which turns this; along with numerous
mechanical parts.
So the question is. Before I send this to Yaesu, has anyone had this
problem before, is it a minor one (something that I could fix myself),
or is best left to Yaesu? Before anyone mentions, Norm's no longer
services these rotors. The four 'screws' that hold the two parts are
impossible for me to loosen. I would have to use a vice, but I do
have a friend with a motorcycle repair business who I'm sure could
open it for me in 60 seconds. To me, this looks like a jigsaw puzzle
by looking at the diagram.
The rotor was in service for about a couple of years back in the early
90s. It then sat inside without any use, up until a few months ago.
If the consensus is to send it to Yaesu, should I bother to send in
the azimuthal rotor, or should I follow the "don't fix it if it aint
broken" rule?
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