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Today's Topics:
1. Re: WB9L cross-satellite again (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
2. Re: Old time change date? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
3. Re: WB9L cross-satellite again (Greg D.)
4. Re: ISS uplink (Fred VE3FAL)
5. Re: ISS uplink (Alan P. Biddle)
6. Re: ISS uplink (Jim Jerzycke)
7. Re: ISS uplink (Fred VE3FAL)
8. Re: ISS uplink (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
9. Re: Old time change date? (Bob Boehmer)
10. PS. (John Hackett)
11. Re: WB9L cross-satellite again (Luc Leblanc)
12. (no subject) (Tom Clark, K3IO)
13. Re: Old time change date? (Paul Williamson)
14. Re: WB9L cross-satellite again (Auke de Jong, VE6PWN)
15. Re: beginner question re: uplink power (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
16. ISS UK Pass 09.15UTC (David Barber)
17. Re: ISS UK Pass 09.15UTC (Gordon J. C. Pearce MM3YEQ)
18. What command to use to get next 24hrs AOS/LOS for a
particular satellite using predict server (Pieter Kotze)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:16:36 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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However it happened, a legitimate QSO definately took place.
The query is what we call the method that linked the stations rather than
whether it actually happened.
n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> "But in my mind a 'QSO' did not happen."
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:18:04 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Old time change date?
To: Charlie Schlieper <n5td@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Do it the easy way... leave your computer clock on UTC.
Charlie Schlieper wrote:
> A quick note about InstanTrack, and the new time changes.
>
> I have quite a few Satellite Tracking programs to use, but InstanTrack
> (1.55) is still one of my favorites.
>
> Each year when the new Daylight/Standard time change occurs, I have to go
> into the INI file of InstanTrack and change the "time selection" to get it
> to track properly for a short week or so. (Just having TzEdit and the
> correct computer clock time for Daylight or Standard isn't enough! The
> tracking program needs an update PATCH to fix this problem.)
>
>
>
> --- Charlie, N5TD
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:01:33 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
To: <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>, <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sparkycivic@xxxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:14:10 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> To: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> CC: sparkycivic@xxxx.xxx AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
>
> The problem is that the satellites were in parallel.
> They have to be series connected to count as a cross-satellite contact.
>
Satellites in series tend to be called a "dual hop" or "duo-hop" mode.
Satellites in parallel are a new technique, and just as we use "cross-band"
for terrestrial contacts made in parallel on two bands, "cross-satellite"
sounds like a good name for putting two birds in parallel.
My $.02...
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:34:36 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
To: "'WCP'" <wcp2@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Seems to be some confusion on this one, I hear some say it is 437.800 and
then other say 144.490....
>From what I read 144.490 is the frequency....
Please correct and let me know, I have not seen a response to the previous
post about this.
Fred
EN58hh
Thunder Bay
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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS uplink
Voice 145.200 or 144.490 US should be 145.200 right
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:40:52 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Fred,
144.490 for those of us in North America. The UHF frequency is for the
crossband repeater. Not active.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:42:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
To: "'WCP'" <wcp2@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx VE3FAL
<flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I believe the UHF frequency is from when they had the cross-band repeater
active.
The current uplink frequency is 144.490.
I don't know if there are any plans to use the cross-band repeater again. It
sure was nice on Field day!
73, jim KQ6EA
--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Fred VE3FAL <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Fred VE3FAL <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
> To: "'WCP'" <wcp2@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 5:34 PM
> Seems to be some confusion on this one, I hear some say it
> is 437.800 and
> then other say 144.490....
> >From what I read 144.490 is the frequency....
> Please correct and let me know, I have not seen a response
> to the previous
> post about this.
>
> Fred
> EN58hh
> Thunder Bay
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of WCP
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:06 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS uplink
>
> Voice 145.200 or 144.490 US should be 145.200 right
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:50:35 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Thanks guys, that is what I have been operating from this end but heard
others talking about the UHF frequency, and as I said all that I read said
144.490.....
Now to put up a real antenna and more then 50 watts so I can be heard.....
Heard VE4AMU worked today and that was too close to home....
Fred
VE3FAL
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:41 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
Fred,
144.490 for those of us in North America. The UHF frequency is for the
crossband repeater. Not active.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:52:36 -0500
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
To: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "WCP" <wcp2@xxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Frequency info is available at http://ariss-sstv.blogspot.com/ and
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/reference/radio/
Kenneth - N5VHO
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx on behalf of Fred VE3FAL
Sent: Sun 10/19/2008 7:34 PM
To: 'WCP'; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS uplink
Seems to be some confusion on this one, I hear some say it is 437.800 and
then other say 144.490....
>From what I read 144.490 is the frequency....
Please correct and let me know, I have not seen a response to the previous
post about this.
Fred
EN58hh
Thunder Bay
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Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS uplink
Voice 145.200 or 144.490 US should be 145.200 right
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:32:47 -0400
From: Bob Boehmer <bob.boehmer@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Old time change date?
To: Doug Kuitula <ka8qcu@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Doug -
According to your email headers your email was sent Oct 19 2004. Maybe
your PC clock has the year set incorrectly?
73
Bob KG3F
Doug Kuitula wrote:
> Hi all,
> Would this have been the date for the old time change back standard time in
the U.S.? Seems like my sat passes are off by a bunch using Instant Track.
> 73 de Doug KA8QCU
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:04:31 +0200
From: John Hackett <archie.hackett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PS.
To: "Eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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L's and G's
(Lady and Gentleman),
Oyez, oyez, oyez.
Anyone working QRPp station La2qaa (Frei Island, IOTA EU-36) on AO-7 will
receive one of Amsat's 'dedicated' AO-7 QSL cards.
73 John. <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:45:46 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <48FB643A.26721.12A331C@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
It is not a cross-satellite contact but rather a dual satellite operation as
if someone was transmitting with 2 ht's at the same time on 2
different repeater!! It is a loss of bandwidth and if you want to see a real
cross satellite contact check the PCSAT and PCSAT-1 or 2?
experiment.
The only one + i see it's could be the choice to choose between 2 downlinks
but i don't know what the real results will be?
> > >
> > >I'm open to any suggestions regarding a term more
> > accurate than cross-satellite for such contacts.
> > >
> > >73 to all,
> > >
> > >Tim - N3TL
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:19:00 -0400
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] (no subject)
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Doug, KA8QCY asked:
> Hi all,
> Would this have been the date for the old time change back standard time in
the
> U.S.? Seems like my sat passe are off by a bunch using Instant Track.
>
I presume that by "old time" you mean to ask "When does Daylight Savings
Time revert to Standard time?"
To understand the way you change the clock, the old adage says
"Spring Ahead, Fall Back"
Here are two references on the subject:
The US Naval Observatory
(http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/daylight_time.php
<http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/daylight_time.ph>) or
The California State Energy Commission
(http://www.energy.ca.gov/daylightsaving.html)
Both sources give the epoch as 02:00 EDT/CDT/MDT/PDT on Sunday, Nov.2,
at which time you set your clock back to 01:00 EST/CST/MST/PST (except
in Indiana and Arizona). Here on the East Coast, my offest between UTC
and local times changes from 4 to 5 hours.
In Europe, the EU (http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.html) makes the
change one week earlier, on Oct.26. So if you are flying to/from Europe
in the next couple of weeks, you can expect airline timetables to be
screwed up.
In the Southern hemisphere the pattern is swapped as the sun moves south
of the equator. See the worldtime
<http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.html> web site for details.
73, Tom
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:22:48 -0700
From: Paul Williamson <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Old time change date?
To: "Doug Kuitula" <ka8qcu@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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At 8:43 AM -0400 10/19/04, Doug Kuitula wrote:
>Hi all,
> Would this have been the date for the old time change back standard time
inthe U.S.?
No. Under the old rules, time would have changed next weekend (on the last
Sunday in October).
>Seems like my sat passe are off by a bunch using Instant Track.
You can always check what time InstantTrack thinks it is by looking in the
upper left corner of the screen. If you then hit the Z key, InstantTrack will
toggle between local time and UTC.
InstantTrack does not know the new rules for Daylight Saving Time. If you
change your computer's clock for DST, or allow Windows to do so, you'll need
to reconfigure InstantTrack each time. This is covered in the InstantTrack FAQ
at http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/itfaq.html
73 -Paul
kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:30:40 -0600
From: "Auke de Jong, VE6PWN" <sparkycivic@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <03a101c9325b$d887c900$6a00a8c0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I would expect that transmitting to AO-7 mode B, and hearing the downlink
from FO-29 mode JA, would be an excellent example of this... THAT would be a
treat, Hi!
73
Auke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WB9L cross-satellite again
> It is not a cross-satellite contact but rather a dual satellite operation
> as if someone was transmitting with 2 ht's at the same time on 2
> different repeater!! It is a loss of bandwidth and if you want to see a
> real cross satellite contact check the PCSAT and PCSAT-1 or 2?
> experiment.
>
> The only one + i see it's could be the choice to choose between 2
> downlinks but i don't know what the real results will be?
>
>
>
>
>> > >
>> > >I'm open to any suggestions regarding a term more
>> > accurate than cross-satellite for such contacts.
>> > >
>> > >73 to all,
>> > >
>> > >Tim - N3TL
>
>
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:10:32 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: beginner question re: uplink power
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Edward Cole wrote:
> But seeing that so many folks run HT's that typically are 5w, I think
> you might chose the lowest range as long as your equipment output
> matches. You have to consider that you will have no antenna gain
> using omni-directional antennas so uplink RF power needs are
> affected, accordingly. NOW if some experienced sat op will add their
> input on this subject you should have the info you need.
I have a small amount of experience in this ;-)
I've successfully worked about half a dozen contacts (not trying very
hard) with a Trio TH-F7 HT and a homebrew Arrow-type antenna, and a
fairly "approximate" diplexer. The antenna is a 3-element Yagi for 2m
and a 5-element Yagi for 70cm. The HT puts out only 5W on high power,
but it can wake up AO-51, SO-50 and AO-27.
Unfortunately AO-51 seems to be plagued by the same cretins that jam
repeaters with silly noises and bursts of music at certain times. Even
when they're not doing that there's always someone trying to run 2.5kW
into a massive stacked antenna. I've noticed that these are also the
ones that sit there calling "CEEEE KYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CEEEEEEEEEEE
KYOOOOOOO CEEEEEEEEEEEE KYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <whistle whistle whistle>
CEEEEEEEEEE KYOOOOOOOOOO CEEEEEEEEEEE KYOOOOOOOOOOOOO CEEEEEEEEEEEEE
KYUUUUUUU" for nearly the whole damn pass without pausing for breath.
Gordon
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:26:11 +0100
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS UK Pass 09.15UTC
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9889C4862FBE48ACB19D7863E21297AF@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
SSTV on again.
3 Pictures.
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:07:15 +0100
From: "Gordon J. C. Pearce MM3YEQ" <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS UK Pass 09.15UTC
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1224500835.4884.2.camel@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 10:26 +0100, David Barber wrote:
> SSTV on again.
>
> 3 Pictures.
Quite low on the horizon for me. The two noise bands are a tall
building and a large willow tree ;-)
http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/na1ss-2010080920.jpg
Also, fairly muddy because the image was decoded from a compressed audio
file. I'll post a better one once I get home.
Gordon MM3YEQ
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:08:42 +0200
From: "Pieter Kotze" <PKotze@xxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] What command to use to get next 24hrs AOS/LOS for
a particular satellite using predict server
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <48FC82DA.A154.0020.0@xxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hello all
Anyone more experienced with querying the predict server? The only
documentation I have for querying it is the demo.c file which comes with
predict.
What I want to do, after I have built the list of satellites using the
GET_LIST function is to build a list of AOS and LOS times for each satellite
in say the next 24hrs.
Is there a PREDICT command to do this? Closest I have seen is the PREDICT
"SAT NAME" time command, but this gives me a prediction of the satellite
position at a certain time.
Regards
Pieter
ZS1PK/M0PAK
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