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Today's Topics:

1. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 557 (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: En:Paul Summers and Tuning OSCAR with Separate Radios (jeff)
3.  AMSAT symposium - what happened? (David Giles)
4. Re: AMSAT symposium - what happened? (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
5. Re: AMSAT symposium - what happened? (Alan P. Biddle)
6.  AO-51 Mode (John Marranca, Jr)
7. Re: AO-51 Mode (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: AO-51 Mode (John Marranca, Jr)
9.  great time (Nick Pugh)
10. Re: great time (Luc Leblanc)
11.  ic 970 (Dimitrios Pallis)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:09:48 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 557
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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>Back in March 1991, Paul Summers, KB3ML wrote an article on QST Magazine
called "Tuning OSCAR with separate radios". (pages 25 - 27)

>I would like to read that article.

It is available for ARRL members in the QST Search feature on the ARRL Web
site.

Clint Bradford

--------------------------------------
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666 - cell


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:25:13 -0400
From: "jeff" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: En:Paul Summers and Tuning OSCAR with Separate
	Radios
To: "Luciano G Nachif" <nachif@xxxxx.xxx.xx>, "amsat-bb"
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <FDC927C9C8CD4414B3A6AB980C4D6ADD@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Why not just use SATPC32 to control your 2 radios?

73 Jeff kb2m

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luciano G Nachif" <nachif@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 2:26 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] En:Paul Summers and Tuning OSCAR with Separate Radios


Jan and others,

the article is available on PDF at the ARRL website for download.

It is great and I can't wait to hear from either the author or anyone else
who built it.

73,

Luciano PT9KK
De:"Luciano G Nachif" nachif@xxxxx.xxx.xx

Para:"amsat-bb" amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

C?pia:

Data:Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:20:37 -0400

Assunto:Paul Summers and Tuning OSCAR with Separate Radios

Back in March 1991, Paul Summers, KB3ML wrote an article on QST Magazine
called "Tuning OSCAR with separate radios". (pages 25 - 27)

I would like to know if anyone on this BB has ever assembled that and if a
pc board ever became available.

It would be kind of you replying to nachif@xxxxx.xxx.xx

Thanks in adavnce.

73,

Luciano Gasparini Nachif PT9KK
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:20:21 +1030
From: David Giles <vk5dg@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AMSAT symposium - what happened?
To: amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4906298D.6000306@xxxx.xxx.xx>
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Hello to all those who attended Atlanta,

Apart from a new vision statement and a BOD meeting, did anything
actually happen at Atlanta?

I haven't seen the usual "What a great symposium.", "It was great to
catch up with ...", "I was inspired by the ...", "Demonstrations of...
were held", "Hundreds of new members", or "Well done to the organisers"
type messages.

I haven't even seen the usual announcement for the 2009 event.  Perhaps
there won't be one - that would be newsworthy in itself.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking the event.  It just seems
unusually quiet.

73 de David VK5DG




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:24:08 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT symposium - what happened?
To: David Giles <vk5dg@xxxx.xxx.xx>, amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<102720082124.13825.490631780006EAFB0000360122230706129B0A02D2089B9A019C
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David and all,

For me, personally, it was simply amazing. I'm new to the satellites -
slightly more than 4 months since my first-ever satellite contact. Having the
chance to meet and spend time with other satellite folks literally from around
the world was wonderful.

The seminars were first-rate, and I would encourage anyone who didn't attend -
most on this board, for example - to get a copy of the Official Proceedings.

For me, Dan Schultz's presentation on the upcoming Hubble Space Telescope
repair mission (Dan was the featured speaker at the Saturday night banquet)
was worth the entire cost of the Symposium itself. But honestly, I could make
the same statement about several of the other presentations. Paul Marsh's
report on S- and X-band deep space reception blew me away. But so did several
others.

An unexpected treat was Marc Hammond's (N8MH) update on and quick history
lesson about AO-16. In it's current mode, AO-16 is making history in a number
of ways. It disappoints me personally that so few people show up for passes
here in the states. I hope it's not that way elsewhere.

I'm confident there are others here for who attended this Symposium and
previous AMSAT-NA Symposiums who can provide perspective. Here, it thoroughly
exceeded my expectations, which were quite high.

73 to all,

Tim - N3TL
AMSAT Member No. 36820
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha

I haven't posted before now because I have no frame of reference. This was my
first Symposium - the first of many!
-------------- Original message from David Giles <vk5dg@xxxx.xxx.xx>: --------
------


> Hello to all those who attended Atlanta,
>
> Apart from a new vision statement and a BOD meeting, did anything
> actually happen at Atlanta?
>
> I haven't seen the usual "What a great symposium.", "It was great to
> catch up with ...", "I was inspired by the ...", "Demonstrations of...
> were held", "Hundreds of new members", or "Well done to the organisers"
> type messages.
>
> I haven't even seen the usual announcement for the 2009 event. Perhaps
> there won't be one - that would be newsworthy in itself.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking the event. It just seems
> unusually quiet.
>
> 73 de David VK5DG
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:43:25 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT symposium - what happened?
To: "'David Giles'" <vk5dg@xxxx.xxx.xx>, "'amsat'"
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4C765508EAE448D6AE210EF4BF1DFBF9@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Dave,

I can only give you one ham's view.  We had an excellent location this year,
and kudus to the great folks in Atlanta for setting things up.  Excellent
talk at the dinner on the current status of the HST, and some really great
top prizes.  A TS-2000, an IC-910H, an Arrow antenna, and a huge number of
smaller goodies.

Turnout was down considerably.  There were about 80-90 present, which is
significantly lower than normal.  For the first time I can remember, the was
no one from the APRS contingent there.  A little restful, that.  <grin!!!>
One reason given by some of those not coming, was concern over the cost in a
troubling economy.  They did open up the President's Club reception to
everybody this year.  That was very successful, and I suspect that will be
the case in the future.  There was the usual range of presentations which
covered a wide range for both the new operator, and those with years of
experience.  And of course AA2TX gave his usual innovative talk in his
inimitable way.

There will indeed by a meeting in 2009.  It will be the 40th anniversary
meeting, and will be held in Washington, DC.  Martha said it would probably
be early in October.

All that having been said, we are definitely at a low point.  These things
happen to people, organizations, and economies.  AMSAT-NA is going through
some significant internal reorganization and soul searching.  Launch
opportunities are few and expensive, and there has been pressure on
facilities both in the US and Germany, for different reasons.  Likewise
there are some shortages of people with particular skills, due to many
factors.  Some as simple as the march of time.  Regrettably that problem is
largely self-inflicted, but our new president made an eloquent plea for
people to look hard at ways they can contribute.  I have no doubt there will
be a matching effort to utilize them.  If you get the AMSAT Journal, there
is a great recruiting poster on page 23 of the latest issue.  None of that
should or does detract from the fact that we have a strong organization,
dedicate people, and lots of opportunities which will either happen, or be
made to happen.

Alan
WA4SCA




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:04:41 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <jmarranca@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 Mode
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<8edcdb130810271604w7a80284i60860fe0c0c206c6@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hey Everybody!

OK, Drew....is it possible to put AO-51 into the same unique mode that
AO-16 is in (145 FM UP/435 SSB DOWN)???

I would be interested in trying it on AO-51.

How about more QRP on the 2nd Channel?

OR...Can the Up and Down links be reversed...as in 435 up and 145 down???

John KB2HSH

--
_______________________________


John Marranca, Jr
PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
BN Systems, Inc
Orchard Park, NY
(716)972-2006


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:51:13 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Mode
To: "John Marranca, Jr" <jmarranca@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <40256A30F41F45A99A6630500EC2E27C@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi John,

As versatile as AO-51 is, we are limited by the hardware on the satellite.
We have two UHF FM transmitters, one 2.4 GHz FM transmitter, three VHF FM
receivers for users, and the SQRX receiver which is usable on FM or SSB on
VHF, L Band, and with poor performance on 10m. Other limitations are that
digital uplinks must go to the SQRX receiver, whatever audio is fed to the
435.300 transmitter is shared by the 2401.200 transmitter, and due to
potentially harmful interference we have tried to limit the SQRX to L band
while connected to the BBS. I think that covers it, LOL.

QRP on the second channel is certainly possible, given that sometimes we'll
have to switch to digital to collect telemetry.

Thanks for the interest.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT VP Operations

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <jmarranca@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:04 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Mode


> Hey Everybody!
>
> OK, Drew....is it possible to put AO-51 into the same unique mode that
> AO-16 is in (145 FM UP/435 SSB DOWN)???
>
> I would be interested in trying it on AO-51.
>
> How about more QRP on the 2nd Channel?
>
> OR...Can the Up and Down links be reversed...as in 435 up and 145 down???
>
> John KB2HSH
>
> --
> _______________________________
>
>
> John Marranca, Jr
> PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
> BN Systems, Inc
> Orchard Park, NY
> (716)972-2006
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:57:49 -0400
From: "John Marranca, Jr" <jmarranca@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Mode
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	amsat-bb
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
	<8edcdb130810271757g7e300ccbn3265bf2877f85b7a@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Drew:

Very good.

Never hurts to ask...hihi.

John KB2HSH

On 10/27/08, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> As versatile as AO-51 is, we are limited by the hardware on the satellite.
> We have two UHF FM transmitters, one 2.4 GHz FM transmitter, three VHF FM
> receivers for users, and the SQRX receiver which is usable on FM or SSB on
> VHF, L Band, and with poor performance on 10m. Other limitations are that
> digital uplinks must go to the SQRX receiver, whatever audio is fed to the
> 435.300 transmitter is shared by the 2401.200 transmitter, and due to
> potentially harmful interference we have tried to limit the SQRX to L band
> while connected to the BBS. I think that covers it, LOL.
>
> QRP on the second channel is certainly possible, given that sometimes we'll
>
> have to switch to digital to collect telemetry.
>
> Thanks for the interest.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
> AMSAT VP Operations
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Marranca, Jr" <jmarranca@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:04 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Mode
>
>
>> Hey Everybody!
>>
>> OK, Drew....is it possible to put AO-51 into the same unique mode that
>> AO-16 is in (145 FM UP/435 SSB DOWN)???
>>
>> I would be interested in trying it on AO-51.
>>
>> How about more QRP on the 2nd Channel?
>>
>> OR...Can the Up and Down links be reversed...as in 435 up and 145 down???
>>
>> John KB2HSH
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________
>>
>>
>> John Marranca, Jr
>> PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
>> BN Systems, Inc
>> Orchard Park, NY
>> (716)972-2006
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>


--
_______________________________


John Marranca, Jr
PBX Technician/Shop Steward CWA Local 1122
BN Systems, Inc
Orchard Park, NY
(716)972-2006


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:04:44 -0500
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  great time
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <042501c938ec$fc248960$f46d9c20$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I had a fatalistic time at Atlanta although I did miss some of old friends
that did show up. Dan gave a very interesting and funny talk at the banquet.
I will be there next year hopefully walking faster.





Thanks to the team.

73's nick K5QXJ



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:39 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: great time
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4906D83B.26232.3EB884@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 28 Oct 2008 at 6:04, Nick Pugh wrote:

>Dan gave a very interesting and funny talk at the banquet.

On 27 Oct 2008 at 21:24, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:

>Dan Schultz's presentation on the upcoming Hubble Space Telescope repair
>mission...Paul Marsh's report on S- and X-band deep
>space reception...

On 27 Oct 2008 at 16:43, Alan P. Biddle wrote:

> Turnout was down considerably.  There were about 80-90 present, which is
> significantly lower than normal.  For the first time I can remember, the was
> no one from the APRS contingent there.

> All that having been said, we are definitely at a low point.  These things
> happen to people, organizations, and economies.  AMSAT-NA is going through
> some significant internal reorganization and soul searching.  Launch
> opportunities are few and expensive, and there has been pressure on
> facilities both in the US and Germany, for different reasons.  Likewise
> there are some shortages of people with particular skills, due to many
> factors.  Some as simple as the march of time.  Regrettably that problem is
> largely self-inflicted******,LARGELY SELF-INFLICTED*****


On 28 Oct 2008 at 7:20, David Giles wrote:

> Hello to all those who attended Atlanta,
>
> Apart from a new vision statement and a BOD meeting, did anything
> actually happen at Atlanta?
>
> I haven't seen the usual "What a great symposium.", "It was great to
> catch up with ...", "I was inspired by the ...", "Demonstrations of...
> were held", "Hundreds of new members", or "Well done to the organisers"
>   type messages.
>
> I haven't even seen the usual announcement for the 2009 event.  Perhaps
> there won't be one - that would be newsworthy in itself.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I'm not knocking the event.  It just seems
> unusually quiet.
>
> 73 de David VK5DG



Any news about P3E or EAGLE? Aside of the banquet and the various lunch? As
David ask it seems that this group is sunking and i'm not sure
the internal reorganization will be done at the right level eg:  "there are
some shortages of people with particular skills, due to many
factors." Did anyone ever think that the AMSAT-NA old fashion undemocratic
structure and the family affair BOD is not the actual main
problems source. If ">These things happen to people, organizations, and
economies" there is ways to have them changed?  We have one of this
way actually in the making where November will give us a clue in the right
direction!

Did we can do the same at our "HAM" level? could be are we too old or too
conservative to make the necessary moves? IMHO we should expand
our vision over our continental boundaries or the main next AMSAT-NA symposium
activity will be a shuffle board game! sponsored by some
Antiphlogistine Poultice company. eg:">If you get the AMSAT Journal, there is
a great recruiting poster on page 23 of the latest issue"
This recruiting is not aiming the right target at all. Refocused the
recruiting campaign towards college and universities with some
appealing actual argumenting will be far more effective IMHO.

A stage coach opinion...


"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE





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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:03:01 +0000
From: Dimitrios Pallis <mc90606@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ic 970
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY120-W2733395750A0FC6585F7C9F8270@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Sorry for the offtopic. Im planning to buy an Icom IC 970 for satellite
operation.
Any experience with this rig?
Please reply offlist mc90606@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx Pallis (JIMMY)73 de
SW1JGWwww.sw1jgw.com
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