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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Newbie question about AO-07 (Luc Leblanc)
2. Re: W2GSB/LH - Nothing heard. (Jim Leder)
3. Re: where to get Fiberglass rod for elevation rotors (Tim Tapio)
4. Re: where to get Fiberglass rod for elevation (WILLIAMS MICHAEL)
5. Stations heard on 145.825 (Fred VE3FAL)
6. AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (Joseph Holman)
7. Re: Newbie question about AO-07 (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
8. Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (Andrew Glasbrenner)
9. Re: Newbie question about AO-07 (n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
10. Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (K8KFJ@xxx.xxxx
11. Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (Auke de Jong, VE6PWN)
12. Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (Greg D.)
13. Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive (Henk, PA3GUO)
14. Re: Newbie question about AO-07 (Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ)
15. FW: [TowerTalk] Free satellite array for pick-up in the
Seattle area (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:43:09 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie question about AO-07
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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On 31 Oct 2008 at 19:41, Dave Guimont wrote:
not by some "go to the store and buy a
> push button radio" to make it easy!! AO51 FM voice!! Waste of money...
>
Hi Dave
You make me remember the time just before the first cellular phone come on the
market they where quite expensive 1500$. Many ham club base
their recruiting on the "phone patch" a FREE and easy available look a like
cellular push button phone... Membership increased by a factor
of 10 here but if i'm looking at the 2008 membership theses new "push button
hams" disappear in thin air!
I previously wrote about AMSAT-NA recruiting ideas" This recruiting is not
aiming the right target at all. Refocused the recruiting
campaign towards college and universities with some appealing actual
argumenting will be far more effective IMHO."
There is no need to have spectacular stage effect to attract. Just make small
move around your community. It takes a very small amount of
very small things to show the crowds what's HAM radio is about. I just come
out the scout jamboree and look at my web page
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe it takes a straight CW key on one side and the ISS with
SSTV pictures on the other to have young folks making their
first contact with ham radio.
P.S. the newspaper article is in french if someone needs a translation just
ask for it.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:33:03 -0400
From: "Jim Leder" <k8cxm@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W2GSB/LH - Nothing heard.
To: "Amsat" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <ACF21EDF0C7741B6A99B5875BBFC3240@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Worked this morning on AO51 1633UTC pass.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Aitch" <dave@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Curt Nixon'" <cptcurt@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] W2GSB/LH - Nothing heard.
> Same for HF Curt.
>
> Saw them spotted on 14.235, 7.2?? and 7.1??
>
> 73, Dave. G1OCN.
> AMSAT UK 5766.
> IO80SM
> Portland. Dorset.
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 16:18:04 -0400
From: "Tim Tapio" <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: where to get Fiberglass rod for elevation
rotors
To: "'James French'" <w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000f01c93c5e$f30a7130$d91f5390$@xxx>
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I was able to get an 8', 1.5" diameter from http://www.mgs4u.com/index.html
K4SHF
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of James French
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:08 AM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] where to get Fiberglass rod for elevation rotors
Wondering if anyone can suggest where they got their fiberglass elevation
supports for antennas from?
I have a friend who is looking for longer pieces than I have for a project
and I can't find any of the info that has been mentioned on the -bb over the
years. Probably just not doing the right word searches.
Thanks,
James W8ISS
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:05:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: WILLIAMS MICHAEL <k9qho6762@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: where to get Fiberglass rod for elevation
To: w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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For my elevation rotor, I went to Mennards and purchased a close closet rod.
Its made out of very strong wood. I gave it a few coats of paint and it's been
in use since the early days of AO-40.
?
I also purchased a Max-Gain fiberglass rod (best price and good product).
Since the wood rod is still going strong, the fiberglass rod is in the garage
laying on the floor.
?
GL,
?
Mike (K9QHO)
AMSAT 33589
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 17:39:06 -0400
From: "Fred VE3FAL" <flesnick@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Stations heard on 145.825
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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These are the stations heard today on 145.825..
VE3FAL,KB0VBZ,W4AEJ,AK4KO-2,KC9DOA-5,RS0ISS-4,N0AN-6,K4IPH,KB1GVR,KD8ATF,W1C
GT-8,KG4GWB-7,AB0XK,WA6YET,K9JKM,K2RQA,N2ONU,N1DIQ,W6BME,WB8MKH,VE3TZS,W5FFP
-1,WB9IIV,WA4SXM-6,RS0ISS-11,VE7MKF-1,KN4F,WD9HYM,KE5MKT-9,K5VAS,
Using UISS..
Fred
VE3FAL
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:23:25 -0700
From: Joseph Holman <joehol@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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<FB33C76F67B23441A80BD9491E99E7861551575D38@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxx
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Any AO-7 users available tonight to help me with a receive experiment on my
end?
I'm setting up a new station and would like to hear something on AO-7.
I read that the beacon may or may not be on all the time - is this true?
During the last pass right now, I did not hear a beacon around 145.975 -
should I be?
Joe, AD7D.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:25:40 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie question about AO-07
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <490D0194.50508@xxxx.xxx>
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Dave Guimont wrote:
> discussions and education, not by some "go to the store and buy a
> push button radio" to make it easy!! AO51 FM voice!! Waste of money...
What a good job we don't all have the same opinions! The world would be
such a dull place...
I think the AO-51 QRP FM modes are great. As a relative newcomer to the
hobby (I've been working with commercial radio equipment and electronics
for years, and my Dad was an amateur, so I'm more than familiar with the
concepts - it's just I've only had my licence a few months) I'm
currently restricted by my licence to commercially-produced radios. So,
for a lot of people "go to the store and buy a push button radio" is the
only way in.
With the QRP FM modes on AO-51 I can work contacts all over Europe and
(at least in theory) Africa, Iceland and the Nordic countries. All I
need to do this is a little dual-band HT and a homebrew crossed yagi.
The aerial and diplexer cost about ?5 and took an hour to make, and has
rewarded me with about a dozen contacts on AO-51, SO-50 and even one on
AO-27 which normally seems to be switched off when it passes over here.
So there I have a setup that I can bungee to the back of my bike, or
throw on the back seat of the car, or even just carry about with me if
there aren't too many people about to get poked by the elements.
Unfortunately the "non-QRP" modes seem to be dominated by the
1kW-into-four-stacked-18-element brigade, who just drown everyone else
out. I don't see the point in that, where's the fun in spending all
that money putting up a tower and buying a rotator and a set of huge
antennas, just to make it easy?
Gordonjcp MM3YEQ
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:29:17 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: "Joseph Holman" <joehol@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <51F8F2C91A4F4DF0B99149F9AB693E46@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Just listen around 145.950...if anyone is on they are likely to be there,
and there are usually folks on.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Holman" <joehol@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
> Any AO-7 users available tonight to help me with a receive experiment on
> my end?
>
> I'm setting up a new station and would like to hear something on AO-7.
>
> I read that the beacon may or may not be on all the time - is this true?
>
> During the last pass right now, I did not hear a beacon around 145.975 -
> should I be?
>
> Joe, AD7D.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:21:50 +0000
From: n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie question about AO-07
To: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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Hello Gordon,
Sorry to hear that you're having a tough time on the non-QRP "pair" on AO-51.
Admittedly, it can be frustrating - but don't give up on it. It can be done! I
earned Satellite VUCC all handheld with a Yaesu HT and an Arrow antenna, and
earned the AMSAT achievement award for 20 states and Canada using only
contacts I made running 50 mW (.05-watt) rf out on the same set of 2 AA
Duracell batteries. I ended up making a total of 51 contacts at .05-watt and
another three at .3-watt (300 mW) rf out before those batteries gave up the
ghost. I mention that because only 11 of those 54 total contacts were made on
the "QRP pair" on AO-51. I was in the middle of the unorganized mayhem with
everyone else for the other 43, on AO-51 and also on AO-27 and SO-50; so, as I
said, don't give up. It can be done!
I've said it here before and I'll say it again - I am having more fun on the
satellites than I've ever had in amateur radio. And if I hadn't had the
ability to start out with a handheld station, I would not have made the
necessary investments for all-mode radios, antennas, az/el rotators, etc. I'll
never understand how anyone can characterize as a waste of money an activity
that inarguably helps operators refine the skills they would most need in a
true emergency-communcations situation -- that is, the ability to transmit and
receive pertinent information quickly and accurately with minimal repetition.
It also seems to me that those of us who regularly use handheld satellite
stations are refining those skills on the kind of gear that is among the most
necessary and utilized in emergencies.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
AMSAT Member No. 36820
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
-------------- Original message from Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ
<gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>: --------------
> Dave Guimont wrote:
>
> > discussions and education, not by some "go to the store and buy a
> > push button radio" to make it easy!! AO51 FM voice!! Waste of money...
>
> What a good job we don't all have the same opinions! The world would be
> such a dull place...
>
> I think the AO-51 QRP FM modes are great. As a relative newcomer to the
> hobby (I've been working with commercial radio equipment and electronics
> for years, and my Dad was an amateur, so I'm more than familiar with the
> concepts - it's just I've only had my licence a few months) I'm
> currently restricted by my licence to commercially-produced radios. So,
> for a lot of people "go to the store and buy a push button radio" is the
> only way in.
>
> With the QRP FM modes on AO-51 I can work contacts all over Europe and
> (at least in theory) Africa, Iceland and the Nordic countries. All I
> need to do this is a little dual-band HT and a homebrew crossed yagi.
> The aerial and diplexer cost about ?5 and took an hour to make, and has
> rewarded me with about a dozen contacts on AO-51, SO-50 and even one on
> AO-27 which normally seems to be switched off when it passes over here.
> So there I have a setup that I can bungee to the back of my bike, or
> throw on the back seat of the car, or even just carry about with me if
> there aren't too many people about to get poked by the elements.
>
> Unfortunately the "non-QRP" modes seem to be dominated by the
> 1kW-into-four-stacked-18-element brigade, who just drown everyone else
> out. I don't see the point in that, where's the fun in spending all
> that money putting up a tower and buying a rotator and a set of huge
> antennas, just to make it easy?
>
> Gordonjcp MM3YEQ
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:56:29 EDT
From: K8KFJ@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <ca6.38b83703.363e62cd@xxx.xxx>
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In a message dated 11/1/2008 8:24:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
joehol@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx writes:
> During the last pass right now, I did not hear a beacon around
> 145.975 - should I be?
Like you, I just listened in tonight Joe during the last pass (TCA was 0108z
at my QTH). I heard Andre N0SWE work Charlie on SSB (didn't get Charlie's
K3 call). There were others like a WB5 but I didn't write down the
callsigns.
Sorry, I didn't really try to listen for the beacon .. just the QSOs. I
was however disappointed that I didn't hear any CW QSOs. Not sure if that's
the normal case or not. Anyway, I just wanted you to know that there was
activity.
73, Gary -K8KFJ-
West Virginia _k8kfj@xxxxx.xxxx (mailto:k8kfj@xxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:01:50 -0600
From: "Auke de Jong, VE6PWN" <sparkycivic@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004301c93cb0$7f884f00$6a00a8c0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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I have tried to hear the mode A and B beacon a few times over the last few
weeks, and did not hear anything. I noticed the same thing during the last
non-eclipse period earlier this year as well. The mode-B beacon seems to be
easy copy when there's eclipses, leaving me to wonder if maybe the
beacon/telemetry system only works for so long, or maybe it gets turned-off
by some means. I have never heard the mode-A beacon. I once heard the
mode-B beacon sending repetitive "hihi" at extremely fast speed(60-plus
WPM!), although I can't remember if it was during a non-eclipse period or
not. It normally sends sequences of three-by-three telemtry data beginning
with "hihi", just like FO-29 does now.
I also wonder if any command station have tried any commands on AO-7 in
recent times, to see if it responds to commands such as beacon on/off,
telemetry beacon speed, or transponder-mode switch?
Auke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Holman" <joehol@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
> Any AO-7 users available tonight to help me with a receive experiment on
> my end?
>
> I'm setting up a new station and would like to hear something on AO-7.
>
> I read that the beacon may or may not be on all the time - is this true?
>
> During the last pass right now, I did not hear a beacon around 145.975 -
> should I be?
>
> Joe, AD7D.
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:31:30 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Ah, so it's not just me. I worked two passes of AO-07 tonight, and noticed
there was no beacon on either pass.
Greg KO6TH
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> From: sparkycivic@xxxx.xx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:01:50 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
>
> I have tried to hear the mode A and B beacon a few times over the last few
> weeks, and did not hear anything. I noticed the same thing during the last
> non-eclipse period earlier this year as well. The mode-B beacon seems to be
> easy copy when there's eclipses, leaving me to wonder if maybe the
> beacon/telemetry system only works for so long, or maybe it gets turned-off
> by some means. I have never heard the mode-A beacon. I once heard the
> mode-B beacon sending repetitive "hihi" at extremely fast speed(60-plus
> WPM!), although I can't remember if it was during a non-eclipse period or
> not. It normally sends sequences of three-by-three telemtry data beginning
> with "hihi", just like FO-29 does now.
>
> I also wonder if any command station have tried any commands on AO-7 in
> recent times, to see if it responds to commands such as beacon on/off,
> telemetry beacon speed, or transponder-mode switch?
>
> Auke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Holman"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 7:23 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
>
>
>> Any AO-7 users available tonight to help me with a receive experiment on
>> my end?
>>
>> I'm setting up a new station and would like to hear something on AO-7.
>>
>> I read that the beacon may or may not be on all the time - is this true?
>>
>> During the last pass right now, I did not hear a beacon around 145.975 -
>> should I be?
>>
>> Joe, AD7D.
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:32:18 +0100 (CET)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 tonight - would like to receive
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Auke, Joe,
> I have tried to hear the mode A and B beacon a few times over
> the last few weeks, and did not hear anything.
Just tested if I could hear the beacons during a 58 degrees pass.
While I could clearly hear SSB/voice of the users (145.950) I did
not hear the beacons on either 29.502, 145.9775 nor 435.1 Mhz.
This confirms the observation of Auke.
Just as FYI.
Success !
Henk, PA3GUO
http://www.pa3guo.com
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:21:22 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce MM3YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Newbie question about AO-07
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <490D7F22.30303@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Hello Gordon,
>
> Sorry to hear that you're having a tough time on the non-QRP "pair" on AO-
51. Admittedly, it can be frustrating - but don't give up on it. It can be
done! I earned Satellite VUCC all handheld with a Yaesu HT and an Arrow
antenna, and earned the AMSAT achievement award for 20 states and Canada using
only contacts I made running 50 mW (.05-watt) rf out on the same set of 2 AA
Duracell batteries. I ended up making a total of 51 contacts at .05-watt and
another three at .3-watt (300 mW) rf out before those batteries gave up the
ghost. I mention that because only 11 of those 54 total contacts were made on
the "QRP pair" on AO-51. I was in the middle of the unorganized mayhem with
everyone else for the other 43, on AO-51 and also on AO-27 and SO-50; so, as I
said, don't give up. It can be done!
See, that's the thing - I *have*, on quiet passes, got into the non-QRP
transponder on AO-51, usually before the rest of Europe is awake ;-)
When QRP mode is in use people do seem to spend a bit more time
listening. The whole "feel" of the QSO is different, somehow - people
seem to be taking more care over it.
In the QRP modes, I can't quite get it with 50mW but the 500mW mode on
my HT is plenty - enough to get in. With 5W into the aerial I get
pretty much full quieting once the satellite is well up. I know the
aerial must be pretty effective, because I can lift one of the more
distant repeaters with full quieting on 500mW, that I can barely even
hear with the rubber duck!
Not bad, I thought, for something built (as I've probably said before)
out of a scrap length of wood, some ally tubing, some hydraulic pipe for
the driven element (kunifer - bit too floppy really, but it's what was
lying about) and some brazing rods for the 70cm part.
> I've said it here before and I'll say it again - I am having more fun on the
satellites than I've ever had in amateur radio. And if I hadn't had the
ability to start out with a handheld station, I would not have made the
necessary investments for all-mode radios, antennas, az/el rotators, etc. I'll
never understand how anyone can characterize as a waste of money an activity
that inarguably helps operators refine the skills they would most need in a
true emergency-communcations situation -- that is, the ability to transmit and
receive pertinent information quickly and accurately with minimal repetition.
It also seems to me that those of us who regularly use handheld satellite
stations are refining those skills on the kind of gear that is among the most
necessary and utilized in emergencies.
Exactly. If you really are in an emergency, you're not going to be able
to pop online and order a nice new antenna from Waters and Stanton, now
are you?
Gordon
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:25:41 -0600
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [TowerTalk] Free satellite array for pick-up
in the Seattle area
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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FYI
-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 3:48 PM
To: wwdxc@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx towertalk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [TowerTalk] Free satellite array for pick-up in the Seattle area
This consists of long-boom 2M and 440 circular polarized antennas, EL and
AZ
(Ham IV) rotators that need some work, 1.2 gHz antenna and 25G top section.
This is a mature system but the antennas are in xlnt condx. You have to
take
the whole thing. Contact Bill, K6QB at 206-285-2649 for more info. The
whole
thing is free for pick-up in the Seattle area.
Cheers,
Steve K7LXC
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