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Today's Topics:
1. java satellite tracker (Michael Heim)
2. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (i8cvs)
3. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (Ben Jackson)
4. Re: working ao-51 (finding the bird) (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
5. SSTV on AO-51 (Luc Leblanc)
6. Old AMSAT Satellite Report and ARRL Gateway newsletters
online (Phil Karn)
7. Satellite tracker for Symbian OS (Xavi EB3CZS)
8. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (Mike Rupprecht)
9. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (Sebastian)
10. AO-51 Sighting...Possible Explaination (Armando Mercado)
11. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (rogerkola@xxx.xxxx
12. Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast (Bruce Robertson)
13. Re: SSTV on AO-51 (Ben Jackson)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:26:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heim <kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] java satellite tracker
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <531897.40072.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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That was quick. I was thinking of Satscape. Its good... give it a try. It
is available cross platform, and as i recall, it has a script on the site that
checks to see if you have a good version of java installed.
the URL is http://www.satscape.co.uk/iweb/Satscape/Front_page.html
Hope that helps.
Michael Heim
Chief Engineer, Forever Broadcasting
New Castle PA
WKST WJST WWGY
814-671-0666
Chapter Chair, SBE-122
ARS KD0AR
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:28:38 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000c01c94412$2c0b2dc0$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:33 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
> Dear all,
>
> we are looking for someone to assist us in commanding of our cubesat
> COMPASS-1 at the West Coast.
>
> If someone (or more) is interested in, please contact me. Thanks!
>
>
> 73, on behalf of the COMPASS team,
>
> Mike
>
> DK3WN
Hi Mike, DK3WN
COMPASS-1 is not an amateur satellite http://www.raumfahrt.fh-aachen.de/
If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using our
amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my opinion the
COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to AMSAT
in order to buid our communication satellites.
Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating contributions
to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
Tank you for you answere
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:13:54 -0500
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: 'amsat-bb' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4919AF42.40503@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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i8cvs wrote:
> If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
> all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using our
> amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my opinion the
> COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to AMSAT
> in order to buid our communication satellites.
>
> Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating contributions
> to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
Last I checked Amateur Radio is science. I think as Radio Amateurs we
should be more then willing to assist the science community at large.
Asking for Quid Pro Quo is childish and silly and reflects badly on the
entire community.
~ Ben, who would help, if he could.
- --
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:23:16 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: working ao-51 (finding the bird)
To: kd0ar@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4919B174.7080206@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The manual says it runs on Linux under Wine so it's not Java.
My guess is it's written with Borland's Delphi 5.
Michael Heim wrote:
> Gentlemen,
>
> I believe Orbitron is written in Java. I have linux, but I cant remember if
I've tried it in Linux, but if its in Java, it (should) work. Might want to
give it a try anyway, its pretty good, and I use it occasionally in Windows.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:24:26 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SSTV on AO-51
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4919251A.25993.E95569E@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On my 0553EST pass the SSTV downlink audio was OK i succeed to send pictures
but i was alone on the sat. The transmitter is switching on as
soon as SSTV signal is received but when the carrier is shutting down i can
hear a very weak carrier just above the noise level i will try
to recorded it on spectran. It looks like some sort of beacon carrier who is
always on but at a very low power or some RF is leaking
out???
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:16:24 -0800
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Old AMSAT Satellite Report and ARRL Gateway
newsletters online
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49197798.80906@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hello all, if you'd like to take a trip back 25 years in time to the
AMSAT and packet radio activities of the early and mid 1980s, you're in
luck. I am scanning my collections of two old newsletters from that era
and placing them online with permission:
The AMSAT Satellite Report (ASR) edited by the late Vern Riportella,
WA2LQQ, and the ARRL Gateway newsletter on amateur packet radio.
With permission I am placing these pdf scans on my website. The
following ASR files are up now:
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1981.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1982.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1983.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1984.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1985.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1986.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/asr-1987.pdf
This covers from the first issue of ASR in 1987 through mid 1987. I will
finish the year 1987 and add more years when I find that batch of
newsletters.
I have scanned two volumes of the ARRL Gateway bulletin so far:
http://www.ka9q.net/Gateway-vol2.pdf
http://www.ka9q.net/Gateway-vol3.pdf
I will add more of these as I find and scan them. Preserve the past!
73, Phil
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:09:32 +0100
From: "Xavi EB3CZS" <eb3czs@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracker for Symbian OS
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<e701ae570811110709t21d87c96ib82da2ac05a78d9f@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Does anyone know if there is a satellite tracking program that can run on
Symbian OS? (Google hasn't helped me this time)
It would be nice to have it running always on my phone.
--
73 de Xavi EB3CZS
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:11:35 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001c94420$8e636290$ab2a27b0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Domenico,
...never-ceasing. I am very glad (and proud) that I have learned a different
kind of ham-spirit, even in the last months.
73, Mike
DK3WN
PS: I will not paid for my work...
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: i8cvs [mailto:domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xxx
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. November 2008 16:29
An: Mike Rupprecht; 'amsat-bb'
Betreff: Re: [amsat-bb] COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:33 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
> Dear all,
>
> we are looking for someone to assist us in commanding of our cubesat
> COMPASS-1 at the West Coast.
>
> If someone (or more) is interested in, please contact me. Thanks!
>
>
> 73, on behalf of the COMPASS team,
>
> Mike
>
> DK3WN
Hi Mike, DK3WN
COMPASS-1 is not an amateur satellite http://www.raumfahrt.fh-aachen.de/
If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using our
amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my opinion the
COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to AMSAT
in order to buid our communication satellites.
Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating contributions
to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
Tank you for you answere
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:15:19 -0500
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A3A027FC-3012-448D-94FC-A941CACB481E@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
Having someone express their opinion in public; as you have also done;
should not subject them to belittling.
Also, is it really necessary for you to append your emails with your
PGP signature?
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On Nov 11, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Ben Jackson wrote:
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> i8cvs wrote:
>
>> If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
>> all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using
>> our
>> amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my
>> opinion the
>> COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to
>> AMSAT
>> in order to buid our communication satellites.
>>
>> Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating
>> contributions
>> to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
>
> Last I checked Amateur Radio is science. I think as Radio Amateurs we
> should be more then willing to assist the science community at large.
> Asking for Quid Pro Quo is childish and silly and reflects badly on
> the
> entire community.
>
> ~ Ben, who would help, if he could.
>
> - --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
> bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:03:18 -0500
From: "Armando Mercado" <am25544@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Sighting...Possible Explaination
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <04216253DC7D4905B89E62F5B0FD9D42@xxxxx>
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Hello All,
Last week, there was a flurry of postings about sighting
AO-51. The initial report was from Riverside, CA,
USA, 34.0 N 117.4 W, Elevation 250 meters.
After much checking, I believe what was actually seen
was an upper stage of Soyuz booster that launched
COSMOS 1184 on June 4, 1980.
In the original post, the observer reported the object
"directly overhead" at 6:10pm PST (0210 UTC
06 November 2008). The SL-3 rocket body
was 80 degs high at 6:10:39pm PST.
AO-51 on the other hand was 83 degs high a
minute and a half later at 6:12pm PST, so the timing
is a better fit for the SL-3 R/B. The SL-3 R/B is
about 12 ft. long and 8 ft. in diameter. It orbits
about 140 miles lower than AO-51.
In the summer of 2006, I made a visual sighting of
AO-7 using a 70mm "goto" telescope at 25 powers
of magnification It took many tries, but finally on a
near perfect 88 deg pass I spotted it. It was about
7th magnitude at is brightest and very tiny.
Since then I have made a couple of serious attempts
to spot AO-51 using 11x80 binoculars, and a 70mm
telescope and have not succeeded. My next attempt
will be with my 8 inch telescope, but not until the
weather gets warmer.
>From my personal experience, I do not think AO-51
would be visible to a casual observer. One must also
keep in mind AO-51 is in a polar sun synchronous orbit.
This is a very popular orbit for satellites to be launched
into and consequently there is a lot of stuff up there.
It's kind of like watching US-101 during the rush hour
and expecting to see a white car at 4:30 PM.
You'll see one.
Enter the lat/long for Riverside, CA,
( 34.0 N 117.4 W, Elevation 250 meters), plug in the
follow keps, set your clock to 0200UTC, 06 NOV 2008,
and see what you think....
SL-3 R/B
1 11822U 80044B 08311.47990140 .00000945 00000-0 44143-4 0 1751
2 11822 081.2402 315.5175 0023019 261.6853 098.1731 15.18617526552470
AMSAT ECHO
1 28375U 04025K 08311.64072703 .00000014 00000-0 16651-4 0 2382
2 28375 098.0621 328.1455 0085038 080.2834 280.7950 14.40623296228910
73, Armando, N8IGJ
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:18:17 -0500
From: rogerkola@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CB1240FE8E525D-83C-2C0@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I think a couple of "it is my opinion" or "I believe" phrases would go a long
way in softening some of these valid questions.
Roger
WA1KAT
-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:15 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
Having someone express their opinion in public; as you have also done;
should not subject them to belittling.
Also, is it really necessary for you to append your emails with your
PGP signature?
73 de W4AS
Sebastian
On Nov 11, 2008, at 11:13 AM, Ben Jackson wrote:
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>
> i8cvs wrote:
>
>> If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
>> all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using
>> our
>> amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my
>> opinion the
>> COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to
>> AMSAT
>> in order to buid our communication satellites.
>>
>> Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating
>> contributions
>> to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
>
> Last I checked Amateur Radio is science. I think as Radio Amateurs we
> should be more then willing to assist the science community at large.
> Asking for Quid Pro Quo is childish and silly and reflects badly on
> the
> entire community.
>
> ~ Ben, who would help, if he could.
>
> - --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
> bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:55:23 -0400
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
To: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
> To: "'amsat-bb'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:33 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] COMPASS-1 support at the West Coast
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> we are looking for someone to assist us in commanding of our cubesat
>> COMPASS-1 at the West Coast.
>>
>> If someone (or more) is interested in, please contact me. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> 73, on behalf of the COMPASS team,
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> DK3WN
>
> Hi Mike, DK3WN
>
> COMPASS-1 is not an amateur satellite http://www.raumfahrt.fh-aachen.de/
Dom:
I followed the link you gave above, but I couldn't see how it showed
that COMPASS-1 is not an amateur satellite. If you mean that it is a
commercial venture, I cannot see proof of this. If you mean that
amateurs are not involved, I cannot see proof of that, either. (The
absence of callsigns with the names of the people involved does not,
to me, prove that they are not hams. Websites like this have multiple
audiences, some of which might not understand or appreciate
callsigns.) There is a place for hams to contact, moreover, and a 'big
thank you' to those who have collected telemetry.
> If the COMPASS team is looking for someone (or more) radioamateurs
> all around the world in assisting with command and telemetry using our
> amateur ground stations built using our amateur money in my opinion the
> COMPASS-1 scientific organization should donate contributions to AMSAT
> in order to buid our communication satellites.
With all respect, I take the position that is converse to this:
namely, that COMPASS-1 *is* an amateur satellite, and therefore the
COMPASS team has assisted us greatly by building it. COMPASS happens
to be the only satellite that I have commanded from my groundstation,
operating on amateur frequencies, of course. In some sense, it is, to
me, more of an amateur satellite than, say, our much-loved FO-29 or
AO-51, or any HEO that might get launched. These, I assume, I will
never control; COMPASS I have.
> Is the COMPASS-1 scientific organization in Germany donating contributions
> to AMSAT-DL to build P3-E or not ?
If the economic hurdles are overcome, P3-E will be wonderful fun. But
I wonder if by focusing on it, we are in danger of not enjoying the
many amateur projects that are underway and of feeling embittered by
the financial forces that are, ultimately, out of the control of the
amateur satellite community.
73, Bruce
VE9QRP
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:41:37 -0500
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSTV on AO-51
To: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4919DFF1.30104@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Luc Leblanc wrote:
> I also hear someone speaking with a child it look like a telephone
conversation a bit off the uplink frequency.
I believe I have been hearing something similar lately. A transmission
that seems to be very garbled and off-frequency, it's been making me
scratch my head regarding it's origins. Anyone have any idea?
~Ben
--
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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