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Today's Topics:
1. Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking (Robert Bruninga)
2. Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking (Robert Morales)
3. Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking (laura halliday)
4. Manual help (k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
5. "Notebook size computer" (P. Thomas Gabel)
6. Re: "Notebook size computer" (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. Re: Notebook Computers (Jim Jerzycke)
8. New Life For Old Digital Clocks (Howard Kowall)
9. Re: "Notebook size computer" (Tim Tapio)
10. GO-32 Tonight (Mark Ku7z)
11. Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking (Michael Petz)
12. Fort Wayne Hamfest (Doug Kuitula)
13. FW: Satellite tracker for Symbian OS (john hackett)
14. ao-51 mode L/S (Eric Fort)
15. ao-51 mode L/S (Eric Fort)
16. ao-51 mode L/S (Eric Fort)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:01:13 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1CE46F4A344041DB831D4FAC084840FB@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> I'm not sure I want everybody to know
>> where I am at every given hour of the
>> day....
No, but being able to push a button and inform all of ham radio
where you are sometimes as needed is very powerful. Like
portable Sat operations for example.
> Besides, the iPhone app would not currently be
> practical for many common uses of APRS. If you
> really want vehicle tracking, for instance...
Forgive me for stumping like this, but that is a common
misconception.
See www.aprs.org/APRS-tactical.html
APRS was never designed to be a vehicle tracking system. It is
a fundamental digital communications backbone network between
all operators in a local or global area. No matter what, where,
or how, or on what frequency someone is operating, they always
have a digital channel to any/everyone else in ham radio on this
single national channel.
It's the signalling and info channel for everything. Oh, by the
way, yes, it can be used to place you on the map. But in most
cases no one really cares where you are... But the end-to-end
connectivity for simple text messaging only by callsign is very
powerful. See www.aprs.org/aprs-messaging.html
Its supposed to be a resource for seeing what are all the ham
radio assets, systems, and nets, and operations are in your
immediate area live, now.
Sorry for the stumping.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:00:35 -0500
From: "Robert Morales" <wp4bqv@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking
To: "Paul Williamson" <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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Count me in for alpha/beta testing as well.
73s de Bob, WP4BQV.
Grid: FM18gv
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Paul Williamson <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >While we are on the subject, is there a specific APP for the iPhone for
> Sat
> >Tracking?
>
> I'm building one. I'll be ready for a few alpha testers before much longer,
> I hope.
>
> So far the only ham radio applications I've seen for the iPhone are a
> callbook lookup and a grid square converter, plus perhaps a few Morse code
> programs.
>
> 73 -Paul
> kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:28:26 -0800
From: laura halliday <marsgal42@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY119-W188E8DE67C69FDAA54F76AE140@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Paul KB5MU wrote:
> I'm building one. I'll be ready for a few alpha testers before much longer,
I hope.
>
>
So far the only ham radio applications I've seen for the iPhone are a
callbook
> lookup and a grid square converter, plus perhaps a few Morse
code programs.
Do you anticipate releasing the source code? I know you need
Special Stuff From Apple to run it on a real iPhone/iPod Touch
(which I have), but I'd still encourage publishing it anyway.
We have too much closed-source semi-secret ham software
out there already.
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:35:09 GMT
From: "k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxxx <k3szh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Manual help
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20081112.143509.12144.0@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Was given a AEA ST-1 Satellite tracker and a amp Teletec DXP-U150. Are they to
old to worry about, or just keep stacking antennas.
Thanks in advance, Reply off line.
Joe
K3SZH
Amsat 3788 since 1976
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:02:00 -0600
From: "P. Thomas Gabel" <ktgab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] "Notebook size computer"
To: "'Amsat - BBs'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <491B6068.7060705@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Info PC World Magazine Dec. 08 Page 54 Did a review of 5 Mini-Notebooks.
73 N9RPQ
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:07:33 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Notebook size computer"
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<2e18ad3e0811121607n2b3645a9g8116826e1b46cd33@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> Info PC World Magazine Dec. 08 Page 54 Did a review of 5 Mini-Notebooks.
I just got this issue in my PO box today, and hadn't opened it up until I
saw your message. An interesting review of the machine I just bought,
the Asus unit others have mentioned, and a few others I didn't know
were on the market.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:16:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Notebook Computers
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <938578.63524.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Have to agree with you about Acer. I just spent 4 hours on a friend's new Acer
to get it to work properly!
Jim
--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Notebook Computers
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:51 AM
> >http://www.walmart.com...
>
> Just FYI...
>
> "ACER" is a Chinese term, meaning "watch out
> for compatibility problems with the rest of the world."
> Research these cheap laptops carefully - you will find
> horror stories from folks with Acer machines that aren't
> really trying to do anything extraordinarily out of line.
>
> And, of course, "Wal-Mart" is another foreign
> term, roughly translated: "We'll sell America
> anything, 'cause they love this Chinese crap..."
>
> Just my opinion. I may be wrong.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> 909-241-7666
>
> --------------------------------------
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
> 909-241-7666 - cell
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:54:54 -0600
From: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Life For Old Digital Clocks
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <005c01c94532$d2f28400$6701a8c0@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
This Does Not Pertain to Satellite But This Maybe Be Useful for all radio
operators
I had a couple of extra digital clocks at home and I needed two or the ham
shack (Local,UTC)
I wanted both clocks in 24hr mode,so I Googled the clock IC used in the
digital clock,and found most of the using a very general purpose clock IC
and all capable of doing 24hrs format buy a small modification,usually this
mod is just a matter of shorting a couple of pins on the IC
My IC was a LM8560 so all I had to do was jump pins 15 to 28 to make the
clock work in 24hr mode
works great,now all I have to do is glance at the clocks and with an
instance of have both times .I know its an easy conversion to do in you head
but this makes it much more convenient and its a way of using some of the
old stuff around the house and utilizing it rather then throwing it away or
even better having to buy two clocks for the ham shack
Just my contribution to the group
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:17:28 -0500
From: "Tim Tapio" <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Notebook size computer"
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001601c94535$faa636b0$eff2a410$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Pretty much what one expects out of a tiny package, real happy with mine.
Track pad buttons are a little stiff but I normally use a wireless mouse
anyway.
73 de Tim, K4SHF
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:08 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: "Notebook size computer"
> Info PC World Magazine Dec. 08 Page 54 Did a review of 5 Mini-Notebooks.
I just got this issue in my PO box today, and hadn't opened it up until I
saw your message. An interesting review of the machine I just bought, the
Asus unit others have mentioned, and a few others I didn't know were on the
market.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:52:36 -0700
From: Mark Ku7z <ku7zdn41@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GO-32 Tonight
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <491B9674.5010409@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Looks like GO-32 is being re-loaded. Was only getting Headers on the
last pass.
Could be up again in a day or two.
73, Mark, Ku7z
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:17:15 -0600
From: Michael Petz <mpetz@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: iPhone APP for Sat Tracking
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20081112151715.P8QC5.154581.root@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I would rather that we stick to promoting communication via Amateur Radio, not
reasons why we don't need it. Sending position packets through terrestrial
and satellites links would be more suited for this group, instead of bypassing
the ham radio equipment and using the commercial cellular equipment as an
alternative.
What would you do when a true emergency arises and everyone whips out their
iphones? Uh Oh - the cellular network it down or is suffering from a major
overload. Let's try to make of transmission methods within amateur radio more
robust so we don't have to rely on the commercial telecommunication giants,
and we can provide communication when the going gets tough. Isn?t that the
reason we tell everyone we need this precious spectrum?
Just my $.02 worth
Michael
KA9HNT
---- Bruce Robertson <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I wouldn't, with
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Tim Tapio <tim@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > I'm not sure I want everybody to know where I am at every given hour of
the
> > day....I'm reading 1984 again...sounds too much like big brother is
> > watching...
> >
> > IMHO
> >
> > Tim T. K4SHF
> >
> >
>
> Tim:
>
> Like you, I would set as a design requirement that the app be able to
> be turned off :-)
>
>
> > With all that happening on the iPhone, the actual Amateur Radio part seems
a
> > bit redundant.
>
> I would prefer to see it as integrated with other services, and
> therefore more useful. Besides, the iPhone app would not currently be
> practical for many common uses of APRS. If you really want vehicle
> tracking, for instance, you're not going to buy a phone and put it in
> the car. But for occasional use an iPhone tracker would be excellent,
> and increase the general utility of APRS, including that which is
> available through satellites.
>
> Perhaps others had already noted this, but for java-based phones with
> the 'JSR 179' API for GPS, there is this application:
> http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSME.htm It seems my family might go to a
> Samsung Instinct; I think this would fit our APRS bill.
>
> 73, Bruce
> VE9QRP
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:51:25 -0500
From: "Doug Kuitula" <ka8qcu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fort Wayne Hamfest
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004601c9458e$8c20c440$70ce64d0@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all,
For those going to the Fort Wayne, Indiana Hamfest this weekend, the AMSAT
forum is on Saturday at 1pm.
There are also a couple of forums on Sunday that might be of interest. One is
"Amateur Radio and Radio Astronomy" and the other involves APRS. Both of these
are at 10 am.
73 de Doug KA8QCU
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:26:59 +0100
From: john hackett <la2qaa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Satellite tracker for Symbian OS
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY144-W9EDE8CB26FAF361F9D69581170@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
From: la2qaa@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: eb3czs@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracker for Symbian OS
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:25:36 +0100
Xavi, Hi,
The program "SATme" is designed for the Symbian C60 phones.
I've used this program for over a year and it's very accurate ... compared to
NOVA and InstantTRACK.
It's very useful for portable operations - especially when you don't want to
carry around a laptop.
Get a demo at <http://www.k0sm.com/_mgxroot/page_10732.html>
Let me know how it goes.
73 John. <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
Homepage. <www.observations.biz>
.....................................................................
> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:09:32 +0100
> From: eb3czs@xxxxx.xxx
> To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite tracker for Symbian OS
>
> Does anyone know if there is a satellite tracking program that can run on
> Symbian OS? (Google hasn't helped me this time)
> It would be nice to have it running always on my phone.
>
> --
> 73 de Xavi EB3CZS
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:01:59 -0800
From: "Eric Fort" <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ao-51 mode L/S
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Are those who are working AO-51 mode L/S mostly using rotors and tracking
software? What are you using to keep the antennas pointed for mode L/S and
what are you using for antennas?
Eric
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:01:59 -0800
From: "Eric Fort" <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ao-51 mode L/S
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Are those who are working AO-51 mode L/S mostly using rotors and tracking
software? What are you using to keep the antennas pointed for mode L/S and
what are you using for antennas?
Eric
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:01:59 -0800
From: "Eric Fort" <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ao-51 mode L/S
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<2ad2af430811131101l2b0ffbd3t4221677313f2c8a7@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Are those who are working AO-51 mode L/S mostly using rotors and tracking
software? What are you using to keep the antennas pointed for mode L/S and
what are you using for antennas?
Eric
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