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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Selling "free" software. (Clint Bradford)
2. ISS SSTV (David Barber)
3. Re: ISS SSTV (Andrew Glasbrenner)
4. Re: need link to current predict source code (Jim Jerzycke)
5. ISS SSTV (Scott Schmautz)
6. Re: Selling "free" software. (Tony Langdon)
7. Re: Selling "free" software. (Clint Bradford)
8. Re: Selling "free" software. (Tony Langdon)
9. Re: TS2000X vs. 910H ? (Bill Dzurilla)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:00:06 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Selling "free" software.
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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You can contact eBay security and open a case with them for copyright
infringement and/or the use of your images and text without your
permission. eBay took my case last month very seriously, and it was
resolved in less than three days.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:05:53 -0000
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
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Could someone ask the guy's up there to turn the camera round for some
internal shots when over Europe in the dark please?
Thanks.
David
G8OQW
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:28 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS SSTV
To: <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
<sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
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They just might be busy with something else! Let's not look a gift horse in
the mouth, the other option might be for them to just turn it off.
73, Drew KO4MA
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV
> Could someone ask the guy's up there to turn the camera round for some
> internal shots when over Europe in the dark please?
>
> Thanks.
>
> David
> G8OQW
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:23:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: need link to current predict source code
To: AMSAT-BB bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx
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You might want to contact John, the program author, for tips on compiling it
on OSX, which IIRC, is BSD-based. I know BSD has a Linux compatibility
package, but since I haven't used BSD in quite a while, I don't know how
applicable it would be to running on a Mac.
It should compile just fine on Centos and Debian, which are Linux-based, as
long as all the package dependencies are met.
The latest version is the one that's available. I don't know if John has plans
for updating/enhancing it further.
Jim
--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Eric Fort <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Eric Fort <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] need link to current predict source code
> To: "AMSAT-BB bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: "Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 10:18 AM
> The only package I find here is for linux or dos. the linux
> version there
> will not compile on osx. where can I find osx (or more
> generic/portable)
> unix source? osx versions are referenced. also what is
> the latest version
> of predict?
>
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Jim Jerzycke
> <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Predict is available here:
> > http://www.qsl.net/kd2bd/predict.html
> > 73, Jim KQ6EA
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Eric Fort
> <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Eric Fort <eric.fort@xxxxx.xxx>
> > > Subject: [amsat-bb] need link to current predict
> source code
> > > To: "AMSAT-BB bb"
> <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > > Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:24 PM
> > > Where can I download the latest predict source
> code that
> > > will compile under
> > > centos, debian, and osx 10.4?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Eric
> > > AF6EP
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:29:40 -0500
From: "Scott Schmautz" <wb2uzr@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS SSTV
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I'm assuming they are using 145.800?
Scott/WB2UZR
--
Bertrand Russell - "I would never die for my beliefs because I might be
wrong."
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:35:00 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Selling "free" software.
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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At 06:00 AM 12/2/2008, Clint Bradford wrote:
>You can contact eBay security and open a case with them for copyright
>infringement and/or the use of your images and text without your
>permission. eBay took my case last month very seriously, and it was
>resolved in less than three days.
I've been reading this thread for the past day or so and have a
couple of questions and comments. First, the comments. In a lot of
open source licenses, there is no prohibition on selling the
software. Even the GPL does not prohibit selling the software,
provided that the conditions of the license are met.
Selling free software does have some merit, such as when the buyer
wants it distributed on media (CD-ROM, etc), and the seller wants to
recover the cost of the media.
Where I see problems is if the seller claims the software is "theirs"
(either explicitly or implicitly by removing copyright notices), or
they don't follow the conditions of the license (e.g. distributing
only binaries of a GPL licensed application).
So, is the seller really doing something seriously wrong? Or are
they merely charging to distribute free software on media?
73 de VK3JED
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:38:32 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Selling "free" software.
To: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <F8854551-12D2-4F7B-BC24-9F9CB7B269AA@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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If the seller has taken text descriptions directly from another's Web
site without permission, they are in violation of copyright law.
Same with images.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS / KAF3359
909-241-7666
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:57:23 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Selling "free" software.
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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At 06:38 AM 12/2/2008, Clint Bradford wrote:
>If the seller has taken text descriptions directly from another's Web
>site without permission, they are in violation of copyright law.
If that is the case, these are the issues that need to be dealt with.
73 de VK3JED
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:58:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TS2000X vs. 910H ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Gordon,
Both are nice rigs and are far more than "starter rigs". You have cheaper
options if your only interest is satellites.
The TS-2000 has a birdie on the downlink frequency of AO-27 (currently
inoperative) and SO-50 (one of the 2 currently working FM birds), which is a
substantial negative for satellite work. But I assume you are more interested
in the linear birds, as both the TS-200 and the 910H are overkill for the FM
birds (a dual band HT would suffice for these).
The 910H performs a bit better on VHF/UHF than the TS-2000, it has higher
power on 70cm (75w v. 50w), and it is less expensive by a couple of hundred
bucks. By its very 160m-23m nature, the TS-2000 makes a few compromises that
lessen its performance on individual bands, but it is a nice rig, as thousands
of satisfied users will attest. It might have a higher resale value, because
there's a much larger market for HF rigs, although there has been speculation
about Kenwood's commitment (or lack thereof) to its ham radio product line.
The TS-2000 would be a nice backup for your Pro 3 on HF.
Check the reviews on eHam, the TS-2000 has a slightly higher average rating
(4.5 v. 4.1):
910H - http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1274
TS2000 - http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1249
Good luck and 73,
Bill NZ5N
If you are near a ham store, twirl the dials on both and see which feels
better. Don't think you will be disappointed with either one.
73, Bill NZ5N
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I'm just about to get started in working satellites and debating between two
rig options: Kenwood TS2000X and the Icom 910H. I already have an HF rig
(Icom 756Pro-3) so don't really need the HF features of the TS2000X but
otherwise it seems very comparable to the 910H especially when you consider
that all the options for the 910H are standard in the TS9000X. Price-wise,
they both seem to be in the same ballpark (when you add most options to the
910H). If you were just getting starting out in satellites, which rig would
you choose? Thanks, Gordon NW7D
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