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Today's Topics:

1. Re: ISS Special Events Dec 2008 (Curt Nixon)
2. Re: Yaesu CT-62 (gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Re: ISS Special Events Dec 2008 ( Dirgantara R YF0EEE)
4. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 632 (Frank H. Bauer)
5.  Remembering a part of AMSAT's History (Tom Clark, K3IO)
6. Re: Tower question (Larry Gerhardstein)
7. Re: Remembering a part of AMSAT's History (Edward Cole)
8. Re: Remembering a part of AMSAT's History (i8cvs)
9.  Remembering . . . (Alan Sieg WB5RMG)
10.  for Eric W3DQ (Alan Sieg WB5RMG)
11.  AO 51 Special event callsighn Info request (Callum Graham)
12.  AMSAT-UK website (John Heaton)
13.  YESSS! (Curt Nixon)
14.  Cross Band Repeater Active (David Barber)
15.  Compatible Radios (Dave)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:37:38 -0500
From: Curt Nixon <cptcurt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Special Events Dec 2008
To: Call Sign <ki6rrq@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49384DA2.50600@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Kind of wondering that myself.  I have been monitoring quite a few
passes with nothing heard.

NA1SS was booming in here this afternoon for the ARISS contact into a
VE3 station I think.

Curt
KU8L
EN82


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:40:49 +0000
From: gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu CT-62
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
	<120420082140.10351.49384E6100040DB50000286F22165662769B0E0A0DD2979D0109
0A9D09@xxxxxxx.xxx>
	
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Nick -

I believe that I picked up a Yaesu CT-62 CAT interface cable (part of an
estate sale) this past summer.
Let me check tonight -- when I get home.

IF so, I think that this amateur elf .... can throw the CT-62 in Santa's gift
bag
before he arrives on Christmas day.

Ho Ho Ho  (or is it Hi Hi Hi?)

73 de greg
w9gb

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 06:24:37 -0600
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  yease ct-62
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004801c9560b$467b8960$d3729c20$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Does anyone on the list know where I can get a schematic of a Yaesu CT-62
cat interface cable?

Thanks

nick

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 05:34:18 +0700
From: " Dirgantara R YF0EEE" <enggi1401@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Special Events Dec 2008
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002b01c95660$76606dd0$49893a72@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

hi  all

just checking in http://oscar.dcarr.org/index.php  Data still no active on
ISS

and i Still monitoring on 145.825 for APRS and BBS not active, any one can
monitoring a data transmit fro ISS?


73 de YF0EEE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Nixon" <cptcurt@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Call Sign" <ki6rrq@xxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Special Events Dec 2008


> Kind of wondering that myself.  I have been monitoring quite a few
> passes with nothing heard.
>
> NA1SS was booming in here this afternoon for the ARISS contact into a
> VE3 station I think.
>
> Curt
> KU8L
> EN82
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:55:30 -0500
From: "Frank H. Bauer" <ka3hdo@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 632
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004001c9566b$d04f30f0$7d01a8c0@xx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

All,

Some clarifications.

First, it was not NASA that talked about the ARISS Special Events, it was
the ARISS team.

Second, we have already started the events with some SSTV downlinks.  And
Mike Fincke was on the air on voice earlier today.

Third, as I mentioned in my e-mail on this:

"We would like to remind everyone that ISS flight requirements related to
EVA and vehicle activity may require the radio to be off for some portion of
this schedule. And school contacts and general QSO opportunities by the crew
will also preempt this schedule for short periods of time.  (But remember
that if you hear these, you still qualify for a commemorative certificate)."

We do need to remember that the crew sets the systems up on their free time
and when it does not interfere with other on-orbit activities.  And the
ARISS team has the same "crystal ball" as you do.  We rarely get word from
the crew ahead of time if they can support a specific event or not.  So stay
tuned!

73,  Frank Bauer, KA3HDO
AMSAT-NA V.P. for Human Spaceflight Programs
ARISS International Chairman


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:29:14 -0800
From: "Call Sign" <ki6rrq@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS Special Events Dec 2008
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <008e01c95646$97b28b90$6401a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

NASA said that December was going to produce some special HAM events on the
International Space Station.   Included in these, it was reported, that
between December 1-7, the ISS cross band repeater would be active and there
would be some SSTV pics transmitted.   Special undisclosed future December
events were to come but not disclosed.

As of UTC 1900 12-4-08, HAM reports, as well as my attempts, are negative
for any contacts on the cross band repeater.   I cant find any additional
news, does anyone have any further updates or reality on ISS coms..... right
now or this month?

Rich KI6RRQ

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:15:48 -0500
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Remembering a part of AMSAT's History
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Phil Karn <karn@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, senior-officers
	<Senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4938AAF4.3070402@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Phil Karn, KA9Q (with help from W0RPK) has been posting a complete set
of AMSAT's history in posting AMSAT's Newsletters/Magazines in the
1975-1999 era at http://www.ka9q.net/newsletters.html. Many of these
really bring tears to my eyes! -- especially the ORBIT and ASRs from
1980-1985. This was the era when we built Phase-3A only to have it lost
as the 2nd test flight of the Arianne launcher self-destructed seconds
after the launch. We took that failure as a challenge to rebuild the
AMSAT organization and the replacement Phase-3B spacecraft. Anyone who
would like to learn more about our legacy should read the publications
from the early 80's.

There is another story in those newsletters. In the early 1980's, a few
amateurs were learning about computers. The pre-1980 LEO  satellites
could be tracked using only the time of equator crossing and a simple
plotting board. However the HEO Phase-3 satellites in elliptical orbits
made the job a lot harder. In Orbit #6 (see
http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-ORBIT-6.pdf) I started AMSAT on the "open
source" software track by publishing the source code (in BASIC) for a
the algorithms needed to do the job on a personally owned computer; at
the time, the detractors said
"Why waste all this space in the magazine. Only a few amateurs
will ever own
computers with enough horsepower to do these calculations!"

I held fast and we published the article anyway. In the next 5-10 years,
clones and graphical adaptations of "IWI Orbits" by others for many
computers were added. AMSAT's "sales" of copies of the many variants of
my open-source software put nearly $100,000 into the till to build AO-10
and -13.

My thanks to Phil & Ralph for giving me the chance to reminisce one more
time!

73 de Tom, K3IO (ex W3IWI)


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:03:48 -0700
From: Larry Gerhardstein <larryg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Tower question
To: "Gilbert Mackall" <mackall@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"amsat-bb"
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004a01c95653$cf198400$0300a8c0@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Gilbert,

I do not see that anyone answered your question.  What sort of tower did
you wind up with?

Larry W7IN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilbert Mackall" <mackall@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tower question


>
> I am looking to get back on the air and would like to put up a tower.
>
>  What should I expect in the way of cost for a 40 ft,  tilt tower?
>
> Is this a project I can do myself or would I be better off paying to
> have it installed?
>
> Are there any permits needed for a tower of this height?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:00:12 -0900
From: Edward Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Remembering a part of AMSAT's History
To: k3io@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Phil Karn
	<karn@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, senior-officers
	<Senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <200812050800.mB580Cex057110@xxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 07:15 PM 12/4/2008, Tom Clark, K3IO wrote:
>Phil Karn, KA9Q (with help from W0RPK) has been posting a complete set
>of AMSAT's history in posting AMSAT's Newsletters/Magazines in the
>1975-1999 era at http://www.ka9q.net/newsletters.html. Many of these
>really bring tears to my eyes! -- especially the ORBIT and ASRs from
>1980-1985. This was the era when we built Phase-3A only to have it lost
>as the 2nd test flight of the Arianne launcher self-destructed seconds
>after the launch. We took that failure as a challenge to rebuild the
>AMSAT organization and the replacement Phase-3B spacecraft. Anyone who
>would like to learn more about our legacy should read the publications
>from the early 80's.
>
>There is another story in those newsletters. In the early 1980's, a few
>amateurs were learning about computers. The pre-1980 LEO  satellites
>could be tracked using only the time of equator crossing and a simple
>plotting board. However the HEO Phase-3 satellites in elliptical orbits
>made the job a lot harder. In Orbit #6 (see
>http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-ORBIT-6.pdf) I started AMSAT on the "open
>source" software track by publishing the source code (in BASIC) for a
>the algorithms needed to do the job on a personally owned computer; at
>the time, the detractors said
>       "Why waste all this space in the magazine. Only a few amateurs
>will ever own
>        computers with enough horsepower to do these calculations!"
>
>I held fast and we published the article anyway. In the next 5-10 years,
>clones and graphical adaptations of "IWI Orbits" by others for many
>computers were added. AMSAT's "sales" of copies of the many variants of
>my open-source software put nearly $100,000 into the till to build AO-10
>and -13.
>
>My thanks to Phil & Ralph for giving me the chance to reminisce one more
>time!
>
>73 de Tom, K3IO (ex W3IWI)
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

I believe that was what I ran on my Commodore-64 in 1985 to track
AO-10.  It was the only sw I had on the computer.

***********************************************************
73, Ed - KL7UW              BP40iq, 6m - 3cm
144-EME: FT-847, mgf-1801, 4x-xp20, 185w
1296-EME: DEMI-Xvtr, 0.30 dBNF, 4.9m dish, 60W
http://www.kl7uw.com       AK VHF-Up Group
NA Rep. for DUBUS: dubususa@xxxxxxx.xxx
***********************************************************



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 13:46:00 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Remembering a part of AMSAT's History
To: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <k3io@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB"
	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Phil Karn" <karn@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BoD <bod@xxxxx.xxx>, senior-officers
	<Senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001001c956d7$6d88a980$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Clark, K3IO" <tom.k3io@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Phil Karn" <karn@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT BoD" <bod@xxxxx.xxx>; "senior-officers"
<Senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:15 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Remembering a part of AMSAT's History
>
> There is another story in those newsletters. In the early 1980's, a few
> amateurs were learning about computers. The pre-1980 LEO  satellites
> could be tracked using only the time of equator crossing and a simple
> plotting board. However the HEO Phase-3 satellites in elliptical orbits
> made the job a lot harder. In Orbit #6 (see
> http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-ORBIT-6.pdf) I started AMSAT on the "open
> source" software track by publishing the source code (in BASIC) for a
> the algorithms needed to do the job on a personally owned computer; at
> the time, the detractors said
>       "Why waste all this space in the magazine. Only a few amateurs
> will ever own
>        computers with enough horsepower to do these calculations!"
>
> I held fast and we published the article anyway. In the next 5-10 years,
> clones and graphical adaptations of "IWI Orbits" by others for many
> computers were added. AMSAT's "sales" of copies of the many variants of
> my open-source software put nearly $100,000 into the till to build AO-10
> and -13.
>
> My thanks to Phil & Ralph for giving me the chance to reminisce one more
> time!
>
> 73 de Tom, K3IO (ex W3IWI)

Hi Tom, K3IO

I remember that before to publish your article " Basic Orbits " into the
ORBIT magazine March/April 81 you sent to me by regular post the
listing of your software written in North Star Basic because at that
time waiting for P3A I had developed a new type of maps and overlay
to track a HEO satellite using the old equator crossing method.

I still have your letter and it helped me a lot to develope a software for
the Texas Instruments  programmable calculators TI-59 and SR-52

I would like to point out that your software was the first one in the
amateur radio community to introduce the concept of Keplerian Elements
and use the CELESTIAL coordinates system instead of the GEOCENTRIC
coordinates system based on satellite ephemeridis and equator crossing.

Your software was the "cromosome" for the following programs
circulating in the future.

By the way at that time in the early 1980's the future was very brigth for
all of us HEO satellite users but unfortunately things are now changed
a lot.

Tank's for your effort Tom

73" de

i8CVS Domenico





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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:17:18 -0600 (CST)
From: "Alan Sieg WB5RMG" <wb5rmg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Remembering . . .
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1526.198.119.224.78.1228490238.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

In some vanilla folder in an overcrowded file drawer is my OscarLocator,
with several pages of EQX tables for Oscars 6 & 7 . . .

We sure do appreciate ya Tom,   Mr."Why waste all this space"..!..
And Phil, Ralph, Jan, Perry, and untold dozens of others . . .
Where would we be now otherwise ... ... ...

Hopefully some of the new SatOps can read enough of these old scans to
pick up on the passion of the past and help carry us on into the future.
We gotta keep this dream alive. All the easy stuff has been done, now
the real work begins - creating the future. Step up to the plate folks !

Thanks AMSAT   /;^)
--
<- Licensed in 1976, WB5RMG = Alan Sieg * AMSAT#20554 ->
<- http://www.somenet.net * http://wb5rmg.somenet.net ->


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 09:27:40 -0600 (CST)
From: "Alan Sieg WB5RMG" <wb5rmg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  for Eric W3DQ
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1556.198.119.224.78.1228490860.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Pardon the bandwidth, but I'm having trouble replying to an email
I received from Eric W3DQ...
Apparently you are receiving these OK from AMSAT-BB.

I tried a reply to your arrl.net address from your email,
but the delivery failure message I got back indicated a problem sending to
"wd3q@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx ... Which did not appear correct. So I tried another
reply directly to "w3dq@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx - but it also failed...   /;^(

Something may be out of whack somewhere, you may want to follow-up.
Let me know when to try again ...
Thanks  /;^)
--
<- Licensed in 1976, WB5RMG = Alan Sieg * AMSAT#20554 ->
<- http://www.somenet.net * http://wb5rmg.somenet.net ->


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:56:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: Callum Graham <mm3ycg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO 51 Special event callsighn Info request
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <90056.49135.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On the 12th April 2008 I worked a special call?sighn on AO 51. The special
event was?an anniversary of? cosmonaut Yuri Gargaren (April 12 1962) The
special call sighn was GB3CD. Did anyone else in the U.K. work this station
and if possible could they give me the details of the QSL address etc as i
never sent for a QSL for the QSO as i wasn't long on the air, I remember
looking the call up on qrz but never noted the details. 73 De MM3YCG

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:31:45 +0000
From: John Heaton <john@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AMSAT-UK website
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <6D879DA2-0F72-40B7-8358-E18E1258BAC2@xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

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Greetings,

Over the weekend the AMSAT-UK website will be going offline for a while.

The reason is that this side of the building has been undergoing a lot
of changes with some of the older offices revamped for their new
occupants.  The offices have been rewired, and the mains are being
switched off to most of this part of the building whilst the new
offices are connected.

The work is planned for this weekend but I don't know exactly when and
for how long.

Hopefully the system that the AMSAT-UK website is on will reboot
itself, if not will it have to wait till I get in on Monday.  I'f its
down, don't bother trying to send me email as my email system will be
off as well.

Bye for now, John


John Heaton, G1YYH
AMSAT-UK #5701
http://www.phers.co.uk/
Skype: g1yyh-mac or g1yyh-ppc


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:01:08 -0500
From: Curt Nixon <cptcurt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  YESSS!
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <49397A73.5020104@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Very Cool...just worked thru the repeater on ISS..BIGG signal here in
EN82.  Made several contacts as did others.  Little traffic.  Digilence
pays off I guess.

Heard the Naval Academy station right at the horizon here but couldn't
get them in time for LOS.

Curt
KU8L


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:44:43 -0000
From: "David Barber" <david.barber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Cross Band Repeater Active
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4527AA5E797741D1A5026D7328D8AB4A@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Just in case you missed Curt's posting.

Cross Band Repeater is active.


Good luck.



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:53:57 -0700
From: "Dave" <dave@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Compatible Radios
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D1D4FFD9465746949C111F218DDF71AD@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi group,  I decided after listening to the group that two radios for my sat
station is the way to go. I have a IC-471 on the horizon but can't find a IC-
271/275.

I was wondering if there was a good substitute? Is there a Yaesu, Kenwood,
another ICOM, or Alinco that will do the same multimode with CAT that will
compliment but not duplicate the 471? I have some research about this and that
radio, but

Thank you, and I really appreciate all the help from the experts.

Dave Mynatt
Program Director
========================
http://sciencecenter.no-ip.org
SID ID: S-0258
APRS Tier II Server @ pueblo.aprs2.net:14501
LAT: 38'16.278" N
LON: -104'40.537" W
Alt: 1460m
DM78qd // KA0SWT

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