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VK7 Amateur Radio News 27Apr25
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VK7 AMATEUR RADIO NEWS BROADCAST
FOR SUNDAY 27th April 2025
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Welcome to the ANZAC Day edition of the VK7 Amateur Radio News.
This was first broadcast on Sunday, April 27th, 2025 and we bring you the latest from the world of amateur radio in VK7.
This week, joining you from the Tasmanian Amateur Radio News desk is Fran, VK7FRN.
Tune in as we share updates and insights across VK7, broadcast through an array of platforms and frequencies:
On DMR Talk Group 5 and D-Star Reflector 91C, managed by the digital group.
On Medium and high frequency rebroadcasts thanks to our dedicated operators:
1.862 MHz by any takers
3.670 MHz by Dale, VK7DG
7.140 MHz by Ross, VK7ALH
14.130 MHz by Garry, VK7JGD
28.525 MHz by Tony, VK7VKT and
UHF CB Channel 24 in the Hobart area, hosted by Mark, VK7FMAC
If you missed todayâ€Ös broadcast then you can catch the replay on Tuesday night at 8:00pm on repeaters VK7RAA in Northern VK7 and VK7RHT and UHFCB24 in Southern VK7.
Thank you for tuning in and enjoy the broadcast!
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WWFF, SOTA, POTA and IOTA
Weekly Wrap-Up
ANZAC Day saw plenty of activation activity throughout the VK states and territories, with more than 21 activators activating references, many using the AX prefix. It was great to hear a number of operators getting out for their very first activation experience.
Rodney, VK7HAM, Peter, VK7ZPE, and Shane, VK7FF, ventured out to the Boobyalla Conservation Area near Tomahawk on Wednesday. Once a bustling tin mining port in the late 19th century, it now stands as a quiet, largely forgotten area. During the activation, Rodney, Peter and Shane made 26 contacts. This was the first activation of this reference.
Ian, VK7IAN, was in Vk4, and activated Weyba Creek Conservation Park, located in Noosaville. The park is home to mangrove forests, salt marshes, and freshwater wetlands.
Matt, VK7MAT, set out to his local spot, Trevallyn Nature Recreation Area, just a little over a kilometre from his QTH. Operating with his IC-705 at 10 watts on 40m and 15m, he logged 31 contacts during the activation.
73, Matt, VK7MAT
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VK7 News
Where is it now?
Does anyone know the whereabouts of the IRE Trophy? The trophy was on display at the Radio and Electrical Exhibition held in Launceston during June 1939.
A report of the Exhibition in Amateur Radio Oct 1 1939 describes the display as centred around an amateur radio station in operation. VK7AB was the station used under the callsign VK7WI. The transmitter consisted of an EL5 tritet crystal oscillator capacitive coupled to an 807 and link coupled to an Eimac 35T running at an input of 50 watts and modulated by a pair of Osram PX 25s in Class AB push pull. The receiver was a normal 10 tube super and the antenna a full wave 40 metre zepp.
Included in the display was a wooden plaque. It was a trophy presented by the IRE ( Institute of Radio Engineers of Australia) now part of Engineers Australia or was it by the IRE which is now part of the IEEE. It would be interesting to know which. Where is this trophy now, to whom it was awarded and for what?
If the item can be located or you know anything about it can you let me know on email: luther8@bigpond.com. I have a poor photograph that accompanied the article in AR but that is all. I would like to have a better photograph and any other detail that is available. It would be added to the history that was compiled in 2023 to celebrate the centenary of WIA in Tasmania.
73, Linda VK7QP
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QSL News
VK7 Inwards QSL Bureau News
The current list of QSL Cards held by the VK7 Inwards Bureau as at 11 April is in the email version of the Broadcast.
73, Herman, WIA VK7 Inwards QSL Bureau Manager
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AAC, AAD, AAE, AAH, AAP, AAR, AB, ACE, ACG, ACN, AD, ADE, AED, AG(2014), AGC, AHT, AIR, AJC, AKK, ALZ, AM, ANC, AO, AP, APZ, AS, ATH, AXZ, AY
BA, BB, BD, BPV, BT, BU, BYE
CA, CBK, CBR, CH/T, CJ, CMV, CTV, CV, CWB, CX
DAN, DHT, DI, DN, DO, DP, DQ, DT, DV, DY, DZ
EA, EG, EI, ER
FADZ, FALX (alx), FAZZ, FCIA, FG, FGGT, FKLW, FLAR, FMI, FPRN, FTAS, FTR
GA, GC, GEL, GGZ, GL, GOP, GR, GU
HCH, HCK, HDE, HDM, HL, HOB, HRS, HSA, HSC, HSD, HSJ, HSO, HVK, HXT, HZ
IAN, ID, IR, IS
JA, JAB, JAZ, JCR, JGD, JOK, JP, JS, JW, JX
KAC, KAM, KBA, KD, KDO, KJ, KKR, KL, KO, KQ, KRJ
LA, LDH, LJ, LL, LLL, LM, LT, LVH
M, MA, MAG, MBD, MD, MEL, MET, MHZ, MI, MJ, MOO, MRS, MS, MV
NA, NB, NC, ND, NEC, NFI, NET, NIK, NMH, NRF, NRT, NRX, NSE, NTE, NVH
PAF, PBD, PM, PRN, PSH, PSJ, PSZ, PW
QK
RA, RG, RJ
SG(vi7SG), SN, STO, SV, SZ
TA, TCE, TED, TK, TL, TM, TO, TPE, TR, TUX, TX, TZ
UT
VA, VAC, VAO, VAZ, VDC, VEK, VH, VK7/AG9A9Mark), VM, VR, VTM
WA, WC, WIA, WL, WO, WT, WUU, WX
XV
Y, YN
ZA, ZJJ, ZK, ZM, ZR, ZT
Special Callsign Cards delivered to VK7 Bureau - VI7POL, VI75G, VI90IARU, VK75FAA
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Statewide SSTV Nights
A busy net night that saw the following participants, VK7s –
EV, AX, ZAB, KT, ZIR, ZCF, TW and AAX all share over forty photos. Some photos didnâ€Öt make it north so remember to use a CTCSS tone of 141.3 Hz on VK7RAF.
The main themes were:
ANZAC Day and Lest We Forget. There were fields of poppies and the War Memorials at Ross and Hobart.
Memories of past regional and national airlines.
The local Tamar and Derwent Rivers along with some rivers in the Netherlands.
Cats, a dog, a budgie and a Tassie Devil.
Other highlights were:
Lighthouses
An Australian built Transavia Air Truck
A bread boarded electronics project in development
A childrenâ€Ös cubby house with a deck
And a “Limited Edition” Ham Radio Doll with accessories
Again Tony VK7AX interconnected VK7RJG to his SSTV International Gateway and some VK7s conducted QSOs with PC1K in the Netherlands, DH1BM and DF9XZ in Germany.
Tony will connect the gateway again next week at 7:30 pm.
Note - Ken VK7KRJâ€Ös and Steve VK7OOâ€Ös fully automatic 24/7 monitoring sites that allow anyone who has sent SSTV pictures the ability to check them on their pages almost immediately, any time, both South and North Tasmania.
If you missed the net there are archives of these SSTV nights on Kenâ€Ös and Steveâ€Ös SSTV websites or on NTARCâ€Ös website under blogs. Please remember to use your own photos or those that are copyright free.
SSTV VK7OO Tasmania Australia (tasme.com)
VK7KRJ's 2m SSTV scrolling web gallery
Blog 3 â€ö NTARC Inc.
73 from Andreâ€Ö VK7ZAB
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NEWS FROM THE NORTH WEST
North West Tasmania Amateur Radio Club Inc. Bi Monthly meeting
NWTARC held its Bi Monthly Club Meeting on Saturday 5th April.
Visitors Tony, VK7AT and Peter, VK7BP were welcomed and attended the meeting.
Due to the passing of esteemed club member, and our previous club President Shirley VK7HSC earlier in the day, a minuteâ€Ös silence was held in respect to Shirley.
Mark VK7MAR, was appointed as the Clubs Secretary, filling a vacancy since the AGM.
Members have voted and agreed, that members can attend normal club meetings via electronic media, which will assist our elderly and infirmed memberâ€Ös, to be a part of the meetings.
Eric VK7EV received permission from the club, to experiment with an Echo Link node, so amateurs can access the VK7RMD repeater, via the Echo link App or Computer.
The Club has purchased a Rigrunner 10010i remote control device from the USA. This will allow individual switching of Radios on VK7RMD. The device utilising a GSM modem, and will allow monitoring in real time of the individual radios current drain, voltages, and the hut temperature and humidity, and other senses, and alert any variations to the set parameters. This will be of great benefit, and solve the issues of radios jamming on transmit for hours, and the DTMF disable tones failing, as has occurred.
Brenton VK7HP has manufactured a 2m Cavity Filter to stop the desense from the APRS unit.
Andrew VK7XR has repaired the original 2m repeater to be used as a spare, there was a fault in the logic circuit, causing it to jam on transmit, which had caused quite a few issues.
On the next trip up Mt Duncan, the new 70cm repeater, will be installed and the new roof put on the hut, and the 2m APRS cavity filter installed.
After the meeting, the new Yaseu 70cm Repeater was on display, as well as the Rig Runner and the GSM Modem, and on a lap top you could see the remote-control system operating the Rig Runner unit.
At Show and Tell, as planned, we were having a demonstration by VK7HP, VK7XR and VK7JAI on how to use an Oscilloscope. VK7JAI Terry brought along a Tektronix 2235 100 Mhz Oscilloscope that he had used later in his career as a Broadcast Engineer, and a homemade oscilloscope he had made, and built into a Lupi 3lt Olive Oil tin.
A club member brought along Dick Smith Cat Q-1280 oscilloscope to learn how to use it. The demonstration and learning session was going well, till the Dick Smith Oscilloscope started emitting the dreaded white smoke. An autopsy revealed an oil filled capacitor, had given up the ghost.
After the meeting, members chatted and had afternoon tea, and rummaged through a boot load of electronic components, Peter VK7BP had brought along to give away..
A great meeting.
Eric, VK7EV, NWTARC
News Officer
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NEWS FROM THE NORTH
SOTA/WWFF PARKS GROUP
The Summits On The Air/World Wide Flora and Fauna parks group meets twice weekly – Mondays and Fridays 10.30AM till 12.00 at the Glebe Gardens Cafe, Henry Street, Launceston.
For more information contact Al on 0417 354 410.
73, Al, VK7AN
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Northern Tasmanian Amateur Radio Club Incorporated
www.ntarc.net
An Important Message - to Mt. Arthur repeater users!
As we are rapidly heading towards the winter season it seems a suitable time to mention that our repeater batteries can sometimes struggle to get fully charged, especially in cloudy and low wind weather conditions - please consider this when using our repeaters for extended periods of time. Currently there is a fairly high level of traffic as well as the clubs commitment of two National broadcasts, two state broadcasts and an SSTV night each week with an Old Timers broadcast thrown in once a month also. This combined with lower winds and very overcast dull days could necessitate the temporary shut-down of DMR and other services. Thank you for your understanding, from the NTARC committee.
While we are on the subject of repeaters and being just after ANZAC Day, the following is a very appropriate reminder. Thousands upon thousands of Australian and New Zealand service men and woman have fought for our countries and our freedom. We are lucky enough to be able to express opinions without the prospect of jail or maybe disappearing. For this alone we are truly very grateful and should not abuse it.
This freedom and being an Amateur Radio operator does not mean an open repeater is open slather.
Think of others…… use common sense and good taste when talking.
For example we should try and nurture a good “Repeater Etiquette” like:
Use call signs, at least sometimes
Leave a gap between overs for others to get a word in
Donâ€Öt monopolise the repeater
And for good measure steer well clear of controversial topics like religion and politics and remember you are not on Facebook or that X-Twitter thing
As far as on air language goes that age-old adage that went something like “Use language you would only use in front of your Mother” is a bit dubious nowadays but please just use some common sense and keep it clean. Remember there is diverse range of listeners out there in radio land.
NTARC repeaters do have an off button, and in extreme circumstances IT WILL BE USED!
Of course this is purely hypothetical but please take it seriously.
If you are not sure, have a read from the link below in the section titled “The Ethos and Ethics of Amateur Radio” which is a simplification of the relevant Amateur Radio ACMA document.
THE ETHOS AND ETHICS OF AMATEUR RADIO
Or check the NTARC website under notices. Ethos and Ethics
https://www.ntarc.net/notices
UPCOMING EVENTS
TestNet and TechNet session - Every Wednesday, TestNet/CW course on 3.580 MHz from 7 pm, then a TechNet on 3.567 MHz from 7.30 pm till 8.30 pm. Your host for the evening is Nic VK7WW.
Club Room Technical night session – The next session will be on Wednesday the 30th April, at the usual time of 6.30 pm at the Club Room Archer Street, Rocherlea.
Coffee Morning – held every Friday in the NTARC Club rooms. Time is from 10 am to noon and we look forward to seeing you all there. So why not pop in check the QSL cards and join us for a cuppa, there is endless tea and coffee along with biscuits available for a donation.
Finally - A reminder to all members that if you have any items of news you would like added to our weekly roundup, no matter how trivial, then please email them to the Secretary at the following address news(at)ntarc.net all items to be received no later than 5 pm on the Friday prior to the Broadcast.
Thatâ€Ös all folks,
73 from Stefan, VK7ZSB, Secretary NTARC Inc.
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NEWS FROM THE SOUTH
Radio and Electronics Association of Southern Tasmania
https://www.reast.asn.au/
https://www.facebook.com/reasttas/
https://www.youtube.com/reasthobart/
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REAST ADX Build Update
Last Wednesday night (23 April 2025) saw at least four people reach the final stage of testing and celebration on their ADX transceiver and they are happily using their QRP Transceiver.
This Wednesday night will be a hybrid night with the ADX test bench setup for the last few builders to test and it will also be a DATV Experimenterâ€Ös Night with a short show from the developing new High Definition studio which is a work in progress.
There is someone there usually from around 6pm.
https://github.com/VK2ARH/Cowtown-ADX-Project
73, Justin VK7TW
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May Presentation Night
The Tasmanian Trail on an Electric UniCycle!
A huge thank you to Allen VK7KAN who has agreed to give us a presentation on his recent expedition from the top to the bottom of Tasmania on an electric unicycle.
Allen has completed his trip and is keen to let us know about his adventures with his brother who rode an electric mountain bike.
For those who donâ€Öt know, the Tasmania Trail is a 480km multi-use trail that runs from Devonport to Dover.
Many of you met Allen at the ABC Studio tour as Allen is one of the Technical Services team and is taking a well earned rest and seeing Tasmania up close and personal!
Wednesday 7th May from 7:30pm in the QD Clubrooms and streamed.
This should be a great presentation.
https://www.tasmaniantrail.com.au/
73, REAST Committee
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REAST Forum Night – Antenna Confessions Edition!
https://www.reast.asn.au/event/may-forum-night-antenna-confessions-edition/
Wednesday 14th May 2025 from 7:30pm in the Queens Domain Clubrooms.
Hey antenna wranglers and feedline fanatics - itâ€Ös time to get real about whatâ€Ös swinging in your backyard. This Mayâ€Ös Forum Night is your chance to tell all about your antenna of choice â€ö whether itâ€Ös big, small, stealthy, floppy, or held together by hope and cable ties.
What we want:
Your favourite antenna (or the one you tolerate)
The good (DX glory),
The bad (SWR horror stories),
And the downright ugly (weâ€Öve seen things…).
Dipoles, verticals, loops, Yagis, fractals, coat hangers â€ö no judgement, just good stories, laughs, and maybe some inspiration or sympathy.
Bring your tales, your pictures, your bent aluminium, and letâ€Ös share whatâ€Ös working (or not) at your QTH. No PowerPoint perfection needed â€ö just you and your antenna antics.
Come for the stories. Stay for the laughter. Leave with new ideas (or at least some validation).
See you there!
73, REAST Committee
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REAST Training and Assessment Update
https://www.reast.asn.au/information/amateur-licence-assessments/
Are you looking to join the world of amateur radio or upgrade your license? REAST has you covered with regular Training and Assessment Days for all license levels!
Key Dates:
Standard, Advanced, and Regulations Assessments: Held on alternate months, starting 31st May 2025.
Foundation Training and Assessment Days: Held every two months with the next one on 28th June 2025.
Stay updated with the full schedule on the REAST Events Page.
https://www.reast.asn.au/news-events/upcoming-events/
Do you need to secure your spot or ask a question - email: reast.assessor(at)gmail.com and your inquiry will go directly to the Learning Organiser, who be in contact.
We have learning resources available including our Foundation Licence Training Videos that are a must-watch for beginners. Find them on the REAST YouTube Training and Assessment Playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsnsP_zjw831mdC6sY4XqavRUY-53ZWUn
Practice Makes Perfect so, prepare with the WIA Foundation Trial Exams and the link can be found on the email edition of the broadcast.
https://www.wia.org.au/licenses/foundation/onlineexams/foundation.php
Whether you're starting your journey or leveling up, REAST is here to guide you every step of the way.
73, Reg, VK7KK
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Satellite News
Changes to AMSAT TLE Distribution for April 18, 2025
Two Line Elements or TLEs, often referred to as Keplerian elements or keps in the amateur community, are the inputs to the SGP4 standard mathematical model of spacecraft orbits used by most amateur tracking programs. Weekly updates are completely adequate for most amateur satellites. TLE bulletin files are updated daily in the first hour of the UTC day. New bulletin files will be posted immediately after reliable elements become available for new amateur satellites. More information may be found at the link on the email edition of broadcast:
https://www.amsat.org/keplerian-elements-resources/
The following satellites have been added to the latest AMSAT TLE distribution:
HYDRA-W NORAD
HADES-ICM NORAD
Please note that Two/Three Line Element (TLE or 3LE) sets for spacecraft launched in the near future will not be available, and new formats will be used instead. The essence of the problem is that the US Space Force is running out of five digit numbers to catalog new satellites. For more information take a look at the link in the email edition of the broadcast. https://celestrak.org/NORAD/documentation/gp-data-formats.php
AMSAT will continue to disseminate TLE for satellites currently in orbit indefinitely as we do now, but we seek comments regarding the best way to support the amateur satellites of the future.
Written by Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, AMSAT Orbital Elements Manager via the AMSAT News Service.
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Space News
Canberra celebrates 60-year NASA collaboration with new dish
NASAâ€Ös Deep Space Network (DSN) facility in Canberra marked its 60th anniversary on 19 March 2025 with a groundbreaking ceremony for its fifth radio antenna, Deep Space Station 33. The occasion celebrates decades of contribution to space exploration and highlights the site's continued importance in supporting communications with spacecraft across the solar system. The new 34-metre-wide dish will feature advanced beam-waveguide technology, with much of its structure located underground to house state-of-the-art electronics in a climate-controlled environment, ensuring reliable performance and longevity.
The new antenna, scheduled to come online in 2029, is part of NASAâ€Ös Deep Space Network Aperture Enhancement Program. This initiative addresses the growing demand for deep space communications by increasing capacity and capability across the DSN's three global sites: Canberra, Madrid, and Goldstone (California). Madrid added a new antenna in 2022, and Goldstone is nearing completion of its own. These efforts reflect NASAâ€Ös push to support an expanding fleet of missions with increasingly large volumes of scientific data.
Canberra has been a cornerstone of the DSN since it became operational in 1965, just a year after Madrid and two years after the DSN was formally established in 1963. Over the decades, Canberra has played a vital role in historic missions, including the Apollo Moon landings. Its strategic Southern Hemisphere location makes it uniquely capable of maintaining contact with deep space probes like Voyager 2, which cannot be reached by the other two complexes due to its southern trajectory.
By spacing its three communication complexes evenly around the globe, the DSN ensures continuous coverage of spacecraft as Earth rotates. Canberraâ€Ös position gives it exclusive responsibility for sending commands to and receiving data from Voyager 2, now nearly 21 billion kilometres from Earth. Even Voyager 1, more than 24 billion kilometres away, can only receive commands through Canberra, underscoring its irreplaceable role in interstellar communication.
Looking to the future, NASA is also developing optical (laser-based) communication technologies that promise vastly higher data rates than traditional radio systems. The Deep Space Optical Communications experiment aboard the Psyche mission has already demonstrated impressive capabilities, including transmitting ultra-high-definition video across vast distances. According to DSN leaders, combining radio and optical technologies could lead to hybrid antennas that revolutionize deep space communications and amplify the scientific return of future missions.
https://www.criticalcomms.com.au/content/radio-systems/article/canberra-celebrates-60-year-nasa-collaboration-with-new-dish-618061525
Sourced from the Critical Comms Web E-Zine and summarised by Arthur Inglis.
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Regular VK7 gatherings and events over the coming months:
Regular gatherings:
Sewing Circle Net – Daily on 3.640MHz commences at 6:30pm AEST.
Statewide SSTV Net - held every Thursday night via the North/South Link on VK7RAF/VK7RJG from 7:30pm. In the North and North West - VK7RJG on 438.55 -7MHz and in the South - VK7RAF (146.650 -600kHz) CTCSS tone 141.3Hz to link RAF North-South.
State-wide – MICROWAVE QSO Party – following the Sunday broadcast call-back on 1296.15 MHz FM. One group in the greater Hobart area and another in the greater Launceston area.
Then North-south digital contacts on 1296.2MHz using Q65-60B.
Stations in the Launceston area transmitting on the odd minute. Southern stations on the even minute.
REAST - WAGs - Wednesday Afternoon Group from 12 noon in the REAST Clubrooms Queenâ€Ös Domain.
REAST - WEGs - Wednesday Experimenterâ€Ös Group on the third, fourth & fifth Wednesday nights of the month from around 6pm in the REAST Clubrooms Queenâ€Ös Domain and streamed.
REAST - 6m AM Net on 53.1MHz Everyday from 4:30pm
SOTA/WWFF Group – Meeting Mondays and Fridays 10.30-12.00 midday at Glebe Gardens Cafe, Henry St, Launceston.
NTARC TestNet and TechNet session - Every Wednesday, TestNet/CW course on 3.580MHz from 7 pm, then a TechNet on 3.567MHz from 7.30 pm till 8.30 pm. Your host for the evening is Nic VK7WW.
NTARC Club Room Technical night session - The next session will be this Wednesday the 30th April, at the usual time of 6.30 pm at the Club Room Archer Street, Rocherlea.
NTARC Coffee Mornings are held every Friday in the NTARC Club rooms. Time is from 10am to noon in the Rocherlea Clubrooms.
NW VK7 – Wednesday from 8:00pm local – NW Tassie Amateur Repeater Group Net on 2M VK7RMD and Allstar Node 56780
NW VK7 - Thursday commencing at 8:30pm local - N.W. Tassie 2m DX Net 144.190 USB
Events:
REAST - May 7th - Electric Unicycling the Tasmanian Trail with Allen VK7KAN from 7:30pm - QD CLubrooms and streaming
REAST - May 14th - May Forum Night - Antenna Confessions - Queens Domain Clubrooms from 7:30pm and streamed
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A reminder to those people rostered for next weekâ€Ös broadcast:
Newsreader: VK7ZIR
Repeaters: REAST, NTARC and in the NW thanks to NWTARC, WCRG, NWCRRA, VK7AX, VK7JH and VK7DC
160m: VK7GS
80m: VK7JGD
40m: VK7DG
20m: VK7TW
10m: VK7ALH
UHFCB24: VK7FMAC
DMR: Talk Group 5 and D-Star Reflector 91C - Digital Group
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A huge thank you to all people and organisations that assisted with this broadcast.
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That wraps up this week's edition of the VK7 Amateur Radio News. We hope you found it informative and enjoyable?
You've been listening to VK7WI, or if youâ€Öve just tuned in, you've just missed our live broadcast. But donâ€Öt worry if itâ€Ös not Tuesday night then you can catch the rebroadcast on Tuesday night at 8:00pm on repeaters VK7RAA in Northern VK7 and VK7RHT and UHFCB24 in the South.
We encourage you to share your news, stories, and updates with us. Email your contributions to vk7arnews(at)gmail.com.
For more information about the broadcast and to join the discussion, visit our VK7 Amateur Radio News Groups.IO Group.
groups.io/g/vk7arnews.
Remember, the deadline for submissions is 21:00 on the Friday before the Sunday broadcast.
Stay tuned for callbacks on the frequency youâ€Öre currently listening to. Relay stations will use their own callsigns during this time.
On behalf of the entire VK7 Amateur Radio News Team, this is Fran, VK7FRN wishing you 73, good DX to all and Lest We Forget.
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(Posted to the packet network courtesy Tony VK7AX)
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